MarkCrawford, ping me when you need help, I'll be on the call today

<MarkCrawford> correct

<MarkCrawford> still getting used to the various functions, so pls bear with me

<MarkCrawford> test

<MarkCrawford> what conference is this?

<MarkCrawford> thanks Pavlik

<Arnaud> harry, there is no need to do anything like that

<Arnaud> trackbot does it all

<trackbot> Sorry, Arnaud, I don't understand 'trackbot does it all'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.

<Arnaud> even if it doesn't understand ;-)

<Arnaud> once you issue the command trackbot, start meeting you're all set

<jasnell> I'm not near a laptop currently. Hard to scribe from a tablet :-/

<MarkCrawford> I thought tablets could do everything :-)

<jasnell> I'll volunteer to scribe next call

<MarkCrawford> thanks. Noted :-)

<scribe> scribe: hhalpin

<lehawes> Larry Hawes just logged in

<lloydfassett> zakin, 5418482440 is lloydfassett

<lehawes> I'm probably P26

<lehawes> Harry: thanks!

<elf-pavlik> lloydfassett, i did it!

<lehawes> I'm calling from 978 area

<lehawes> but using Google Voice, which usually shows up as a SV area code

MarkCrawford: Welcome everyone
... Ed Krebs from Ford will be joining us as an invited expert
... he's going to contribute to the use-cases and participated in the workshop last year
... I'm very pleased he's participating going forward
... we are workig on Microsoft
... it would be great if someone from Microsoft could be OK.
... still working on minutes on 20th

haven't had time to manually convert those IRC logs

scribe: notes will be posted on wikipage
... will create a wiki page for each meeting similar to how Social WG is doing it.
... any questions?

Tracker and issues

MarkCrawford: Will set up tracker with issues shortly and then announce

<lehawes> harry: I'm muted locally, so no need to do so via Zakim

TPAC reminder

MarkCrawford: Please register
... you can also attend both WG and IG as an observer
... yesterday on WG call we discussed the co-oridnaton between the two
... the IG, as discussed on our last call, we'll co-ordinate with the WG
... do people want a separate meeting of the IG?
... if we do, we'd need to do it at a time that wouldn't interfere with the WG
... any thoughts?

<lehawes> Yes, we should have a separate meeting of the IG. Would hate to miss the opportunity for F2F discussion/work.

MarkCrawford: we'll try to engage with the next meeting

use-cases

MarkCrawford: Did set-up a wiki
... there is a page for each of the task force

for example see https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialig/Architecture_TF

Markus: So I haven't done that yet

<lloydfassett> What is the link to the agenda?

<MarkCrawford> I am

Markus: so if you have interest in working on deliverables, can you identify yourself in IRC

<lloydfassett> I am signed up for Vocabulary

+1

<jasnell> +1

<lwgoix> +1

<Arnaud> lloydfassett, here is the agenda: https://www.w3.org/wiki/2014-09-03

MarkCrawford: There's going to be some overlap
... would like to start out

<elf-pavlik> +q

Markus: Some of the use-cases seem very broad

<lehawes> elf-pavlik: question is whether you're interested in participating in use case development for IG

MarkCrawford: There's use-cases in the CTO guide to Social Business and XG report you could draw from

Markus: We'll have to collect them and prioritize them

MarkCrawford: Speaking from the architecture report perspective
... this will definitey help

Markus: Can we produce a document that will be useful when we formally meet up

<elf-pavlik> I suggested to *selfdogfood* and take some of the use cases related to workflows in W3C

<elf-pavlik> thank you :)

<lehawes> harry: I've got my audio muted again now. btw, it was me speaking about use cases, not "lehawes"

MarkCrawford: Right now, its just very brief entries in the wiki
... we'll need amplificaitons of those
... where will things be uesful

Architecture

<elf-pavlik> +1

<jasnell> +1

+1

<MarkCrawford> +1

MarkCrawford: I did set up an architecture page
... created a link to Jeff Jaffe's report to the AC
... with an architecture block diagram
... subsequent work by Ann on this
... we could start with that

<elf-pavlik> schema.org/Actions & Hydra (W3C CG)

<jasnell> AS2, schema.org/Actions, and Hydra ... it's specifically focused on Actions right now. It's only one part

MarkCrawford: There is some WG comparisons between schema.org and AS
... discussions in very early stages

<elf-pavlik> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/2014Sep/0006.html

<jasnell> the discussion has been happening on the socialig and socialwg mailing list. However, some individuals from Google have participated in the conversation by cc

Arnaud, only members can post

<jasnell> specifically... Sam Goto

Sam Goto's posts are likely not going through

I suggest we set up a read/write list (comments)

<elf-pavlik> +1 harry

and then cc the conversation between you and Sam there

I'll request that today

<jasnell> I will forward Sam's responses

<lehawes> MarkCrawford: It looks like Lloyd dropped off phone and IRC

MarkCrawford: Can you see what other groups are interested in vocabulary effort

<MarkCrawford> yes

jasnell, just forward to WG list until we get a comments list going

<lloydfassett> sorry...don't know how that happened. Will call backin

jasnell: Conversation between myself and Sam Goto

<elf-pavlik> ack, jasnell

MarkCrawford: I haven't asked internally at SAP between schema.org or another vocabulary

<lehawes> jasnell: It would be great to see if anyone from WG wants to have input on IG use cases as well

MarkCrawford: my personal opinion is the less the better

jasnell: I agree, but we want to have that conversation in the WG

MarkCrawford: Is that an action to have a liasion?

lloydfassett: please send comments to mailing list

<lehawes> lwgoix: What is your full name please?

MarkCrawford: We may want to consider ourselves being proactive

<jasnell> I'm good with that, just need to identify which groups to announce ourselves to

MarkCrawford: one of responsibilities is messaging and if we can support them with requirements

<elf-pavlik> +1 announcing Social(IG/WG) to other groups we see relevant

<lehawes> MarkCrawford: +1 on "marketing" IG to other WGs

<jasnell> no further business at this time

MarkCrawford: AOB?
... Next call is Sept 17th
... just ask Harry and myself now

<lehawes> MarkCrawford: I will not be able to participate in 9/17 meeting, due to a conference conflict. Sorry!

I'm happy to chair if Mark can't make it

<elf-pavlik> thanks MarkCrawford & harry for chairing and scribing!!!

MarkCrawford: Thanks for participating everyone

<MarkCrawford> harry - can you do the command to log the minutes?

trackbot, end meeting

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