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<trackbot> Date: 07 August 2014
<cwilso> Running late, there in five.
<rtoyg_> Good morning!
Reviewing https://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/agenda
action-87 ongoing
action-102
<trackbot> action-102 -- Joe Berkovitz to Make sure we have an issue tracked for the mapping of dom time and audiocontext time -- due 2014-06-12 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/actions/102
joe: issue 340
<joe> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/340
action-102 CLOSED
<trackbot> Closed action-102.
action-104
<trackbot> action-104 -- Paul Adenot to Extract formulas from cookbook -- due 2014-07-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/actions/104
action-105
<trackbot> action-105 -- Doug Schepers to Mark up formulas for biquadfilter in mathml (get help from mathjax?) -- due 2014-07-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/actions/105
shepazu: think we can publish as
is now
... and integrate the formulae as is
padenot: can start a branch we can all look at
shepazu: we can talk to RBJ if there is any question
ACTION-105: publish the document as is, with W3C template
<trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-105 Mark up formulas for biquadfilter in mathml (get help from mathjax?).
ACTION-104: integrate the formulas from cookbook into a separate branch for review
<trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-104 Extract formulas from cookbook.
action-104 due in 2 weeks
<trackbot> Set action-104 Extract formulas from cookbook due date to 2014-08-21.
action-105 due in 2 weeks
<trackbot> Set action-105 Mark up formulas for biquadfilter in mathml (get help from mathjax?) due date to 2014-08-21.
action-106
<trackbot> action-106 -- Chris Wilson to Document synchronous option in github issue 113 -- due 2014-07-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/actions/106
<cwilso> unmute cwilso
<cwilso> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/113#issuecomment-51493744
action-106 closed
<trackbot> Closed action-106.
action-107 pending
action-107 due in 2 weeks
<trackbot> Set action-107 Organise cfc on breaking change for the main thread scriptprocessornode due date to 2014-08-21.
cwilso: at last call we discussed
options
... rough consensus was that we should examine possibility of
removing main thread spn
... seemed to be general agreement to consider it as
synchronous callback
... discussed with TAG friends Domenic and Alex
... at this point just needs to be written up into the spec
olivier: best to have a draft to build a CfC on
cwilso: can use an editor's
(sub)draft
... we need to discuss pulling the old spn
... we have gotten some flak for other removals, we should
expect some for SPN though if we remove it at this point
joe: has the alternative -
introducing a new node with a new name been considered?
... code that assumes old behaviour will be problematic
cwilso: could also change how the
node is created
... question is how long do we want developers to continue
using the old node/behaviour
joe: current design unworkable by
developers
... trying to cut up the problem
... agree to retiring the old behaviour asap
... for a while we had warning in console
... would like a solution that doesn't block introduction of
new behaviour
olivier: how many (high profile) of it? should be different to noteon/noteoff
padenot: seen it quite a lot
olivier: seems like new name/constructor and deprecation warning better?
joe: note that this is different from previous name changes - this is semantic/behaviour change
cwilso: excellent point. closest comparison is createaudiobuffer
olivier: if we create a new node,
and organise a slow deprecation of the old one
... should help?
cwilso: am concerned about how
deliberately and forcefully we organise that deprecation
... don't want to ship a v1 spec that has it
... deprecation is a dangerous thing
... as is creates a precedent of "supporting it"
... we need to organise it well, decide on shutting it off at
same time in implementations
... the longer we let it sit, the more likely we will have to
leave it forever
olivier: suggest draft removes old way entirely and we can have CFC about that + commitment to remove from implementations ASAP
<cwilso> ACTION: cwilso to remove old scriptprocessornode and implement new one, issue draft. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-audio-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-108 - Remove old scriptprocessornode and implement new one, issue draft. [on Chris Wilson - due 2014-08-14].
joe: suggest sample code too
cwilso: good idea
<joe> must drop off call now; regrets
<scribe> ACTION: add communication/education on new SPN to the agenda of our next telcon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-audio-minutes.html#action02]
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<scribe> ACTION: olivier to add communication/education on new SPN to the agenda of our next telcon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-audio-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-109 - Add communication/education on new spn to the agenda of our next telcon [on Olivier Thereaux - due 2014-08-14].
Tentative date for next meeting: August 28th
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