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<trackbot> Date: 12 June 2014
<janina> Meeting: HTML-A11Y Task Force Teleconference
<scribe> Scribe: David
Current status is CR
MS: Good progress on longdesc...
exchanged emails with chaals... will wrap up with him tomorrow
... Will leave with CFC for review...
MS: I'm confident
JS: Will run CFC on sufficiency
MS: through task force then PF and html
JS: shortest course is 2 weeks... pushing estimate date to JUL 3
JS: but that is a problem time vacations
JB: can do some calendar adjustments
MS: heartbeat level 2 in the works
MS: working on transitioning to canvas task force under the html WG... will get feedback on monday on Work Statement and will have nominations for facilitators for the HTML WG
JS: we will want to keep an eye on it but canvas is doing well from where we were... going right direction
JS: I think we're done
resolved wrinkle
several question in call for consensus..complicated
question about whether we should mention longdesc
someone filed a bug related few days ago
DM: difficult to include it because last call is short... probably
JS: will be difficult to get into 5.0 but not too late for 5.1
JB: not going for re integration... will be extension
JS: we took a look at 5 and are ok with everything except strong native semantics...
JS: i put out call for consensus... Steve wanted more information
JS: rich provided explanation...
Shane: Rich wanted to test with validator the strong native semantics
JS: the problem is that we didn't tell browsers how to do the strong native semantics... we'll have that with the mapping... but don't have it now
JS: PF will put a warning on it, and not make the section normative... when PF gets it all straightened out we'll go for it... relying on permissive exit criteria
<Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to mention Rich's comment
MS: had meeding with web and TV and Chairs outlined famework for accessibility support
JS: they were looking for something easier to consume
than the media accessibility requirements
JS: we are assuming html and prerecorded... but cable and broadcast items can't meet that
could not do that over channel 4
Shane: TV is all digital
these days
JS: cable and digital has less limitation
over the air... bandwidth comes with license
if it is over internet it is the size of the cable such as coax
core things... audio description and captions, possibly text descriptions
JS: cable labs will come to media sub team and they want to make sure if they got it right
JS: accessibility work in seveal companies
JB: FCC policy briefing... faced pace of acctions on accessibility... anyone who sells in US market has to follow
JB: lots of work going on for accessibility
JS: our problem with media document... we went all the way with current research including extended descriptions....
JS: My use case... a gentlemean loves to go to movies with pals, but older and loosing hearing.... background bothers him, he can read captions, but not much fun... his phone lets him play channel with no background... his TV is muchbetter, because he can follow dialogue
Now read in the newspaper that he can do this in the movie...
Delivers personalization
JS: different styles and trend in audio mixing... crowd sounds louder now...
Shane: many of the things that started as special needs, this could be for lots people... I would like to turn off talking heads
JS: people have actions... me and lionnie had one... not done naming topics
HTML next... refinements...
<MarkS> Heartbeat Draft or Using WAI-ARIA in HTML for review by the TF
<MarkS> Bugs resolved since last publication
<MarkS> Diff document since last publication
JS: need about 2 years for 1.1