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<trackbot> Date: 17 April 2014
<nigel> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34314/TPAC2014Planning/results
Nigel: survey is still open
... we have yes and prefer on Monday
... looks like we're looking at Monday and Friday at
themoment
... Glenn would prefer not Monday
Glenn: any tentative schedule yet?
plh: not yet
... HTML and WebApps will likely be usual
NigeL: Timed Text CG would be
nice to meet with
... didn't talk with David yet
Plh: we don't provide space for CGs to meet during TPAC
Nigel: we should invite them to join one of our sessions then
plh: sounds reasonable
Nigel: for agenda items: TTML
2
... survey is open until next week
Pierre: my primary activity was
to update the editors draft
... now referencing TTML 1
... name is ISMC 1.0 now
... Id like this group to consider FPWD now
... also some comments from John Birch
... I don't think the comments were against publication. hard
to find specific requested changes.
... so didn't detect anything that were incompatible with
FPWD
Nigel: correct, FPWD doesn't imply endorsement. I read John's email as proposing to help with editing
Pierre: I'd be glad to get more specific comments
Nigel: I sent some pubrules changes
Pierre: wasn't sure if those were proposed or final
Nigel: fair enough to get it out
there
... any objection to FPWD?
Resolved: IMSC 1.0 to be published as FPWD
Nigel: ok, let's get this decision to the list, give the 10 days, target publication: May 1
Pierre: ok, I'll get everything in order for then
<tmichel> ok give me the latest url so I start checking the document
<pal_> @tmichel: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/52e24aaec29b/ttml-ww-profiles/ttml-ww-profiles.html
trackbot, list users
<trackbot> Sorry, plh, I don't understand 'trackbot, list users'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
<tmichel> I will take a look at it and will gone back to you next week
<pal_> @tmichel: thanks!
ttml-ww-profiles
imsc, ttml-imsc, t-imsc?
tt-imsc?
<tmichel> ttml-imsc
objection to ttml-imsc?
ttml-imsc1
<glenn> ttml1-imsc
<glenn> ttml2-imsc
<pal_> ttml1-imsc1?
Resolved to use ttml-imsc1
<tmichel> ok
<tmichel> so publication date should be first week of may ?
plh: how about adding the subject header in the status
<glenn> suggest headers use [IMSC] if not version specific or [IMSC1]/[IMSC2] otherwise
Resolved: use [ttml-imsc1] in the subject header of emails for comments
<tmichel> I will let you know what to add exactly
<tmichel> you acn add it into the "mailto"
Glenn: would prefer [imsc]
Pierre: +1
Resolved (again) : use [imsc] in the subject header of emails for comments
Nigel: can we do the same for ttml2 then?
Glenn: I would use [ttml], folks can add a version number if it's specific
<scribe> ACTION: Pierre to add [imsc] subject header in the IMSC draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-279 - Add [imsc] subject header in the imsc draft [on Pierre-Anthony Lemieux - due 2014-04-24].
<scribe> ACTION: Glenn to use [ttml] in the subject header in TTML drafts [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-280 - Use [ttml] in the subject header in ttml drafts [on Glenn Adams - due 2014-04-24].
action-215?
<trackbot> action-215 -- Glenn Adams to Specify special semantics for tts:{extent, origin} on content elements to map to new inline region feature -- due 2014-04-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/215
Nigel: this is related to issue 176
issue-176?
<trackbot> issue-176 -- Adding support for extent and origin attributes on block elements -- pending review
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/176
Glenn: didn't get comments
... I suggest to close them
... we have an editorial note for inline regions but that's
independent
Nigel: not obvious they shouldn't be independent.
<nigel> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml2/spec/ttml2.html#layout-attribute-region
close issue-176
<trackbot> Closed issue-176.
close action-215
<trackbot> Closed action-215.
action-278?
<trackbot> action-278 -- Glenn Adams to Add ednote to 9.3.2 with reminder to deal with case of having multiple inline regions possibly with additional reference to out-of-line region -- due 2014-04-03 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/278
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/rev/b78e2a0db0b1
close action-278
<trackbot> Closed action-278.
action-274?
<trackbot> action-274 -- Nigel Megitt to Discuss with david singer possibilities for f2f before going ahead and adding ttwg to tpac agenda. -- due 2014-03-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/274
Nigel: we're looking at going
ahead with the f2f
... we can have an additional f2f before that time
... Daivd favors it
... I can host it in London
plh: timeframe?
<tmichel> Pierre, here is what should should add in SOTD section
<tmichel> <p>
<tmichel> This document was published by the <a href="http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/">Timed Text Working Group</a> as a First Public Working Draft.
<tmichel> If you wish to make comments regarding this document, please send them to
<tmichel> <a href="mailto:public-tt@w3.org?subject=%5BWD%20Comment%20imsc%5D">">public-tt@w3.org</a>
<tmichel> (<a href="mailto:public-tt-request@w3.org?subject=subscribe">subscribe</a>,
<tmichel> <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/">archives</a>).
Nigel: unclear at the moment
<tmichel> Use "[WD comment imsc]" in the subject line of your email. All comments are welcome.
<tmichel> </p>
Nigel: September?
Pierre: in that month, there is a
SMPTE meeting, IVC
... we would have to go around those events
... s/IBC/IBC/
Nigel: IBC is September 10 to 15 or 16
<pal_> http://www.ibc.org/
Pierre: SMPTE is just after
Nigel: so IBC runs from 11 to 16
<nigel> http://www.ibc.org/page.cfm/Action=VCalendarIndex/CalendarID=3/t=m
Pierre: SMPTE is probably
September 17 to 21
... in Geneva
Nigel: IBC is in AMsterdam
NigeL; squeezing in between would fail
Pierre: first day of SMPTE is flexible
Glenn: how about 16-17?
<scribe> ACTION: Nigel to talk to Frans about hosting a meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-281 - Talk to franz about hosting a meeting [on Nigel Megitt - due 2014-04-24].
Nigel: will continue to talk to David as well
Pierre: what would the goal
be?
... brainstorm first then solve remaining issues at the
meeting?
Nigel: goal is to have both
groups, looking at the concepts of both format
... might go throught the logical concept first
Pierre: so, sounds like brainstorming
<nigel> scribeNick: plh
<glenn> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml1-api/Overview.html
plh: btw, HTML wg talked about datacue last week
Jerry: should ttmlcue be in ttml spec?
Glenn: I started to work on it in November. would probably need a refresh
Plh: we ought to make sure on our mapping with HTML5 prior to the september meeting
Jerry: what's the timeline for the API?
Glenn: I'd like the TTML1 API to be published
plh: differences between ttml 1 and 2 api?
Glenn: ttml1 is raw. for 2, I'd like to include more of the mapping
issue-304?
<trackbot> issue-304 -- Non-standard unqualified attributes not permitted -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/304
Glenn: we also made progress on the TTML validator at w3c
<glenn> http://validator-test.w3.org/ttml
Glenn: that's the TTV tool
... it's in beta
... but folks can start playing with it
[adjourned]
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