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EV: some last minute remarks, added an 'all pages' field, and did some editorial changes
KW: there's an accessibility problem in the survey for people using screen magnifying software
EV: we'll look in to that
... we have to choose a website
DF: will we do just one website? or more?
... suggested a website as well
http://www.w3.org/2014/02/27-eval-minutes
DF: more website give us a better view of the methodology
Liz: agree with DF
EV: Its a lot of work, don't know if we can ask that of people
KW: good to test it on different websites,
different types of websites
... this will be one of the critiques we will get : we tested it on too
similar sites
... share concern with number of people who will do a total evaluation
MH: scared that not to many people do the same site
EV: if we open it up, people can include the evaluating they are doing at the moment
DF: most important to ask the community for websites, to get a broader view
KW: agree with DF, but we need a disclaimer that
the data will become public
... make a note that partial info is also welcome
EV: keeping it at level A will decrease the
effort people have to give, increase chance to get feedback
... group decided to do AA
DF: make an open call asking people to nominate websites
DF: we can tell people that we don't need people to expect to do total evaluation, but make an emphasis on the feedback on the methodology
EV: i expect lots of people to volunteer their website for evaluation
DF: we don't need a lot, but more variation then
we have now, and we need more testers
... we can start with the sites we have, and need to make a open call for more
sites
ME: agree with MH, we should ask people to do one
site, use that feedback on maybe a next site
... most valuable for us is if we use one or two sites
<Detlev> I meant more importantly: mor testers =more problems people may encounter using WCAG EM
DF: we need more testers
EV: we need to discuss this in a next telco, but
i'd like to start the survey
... right now
DF: agree, starting now is ok to hurry up proces, but like to include more testers
EV: proposal : Start with the 3 websites we have?
DF: consensus was starting with one, adding more later
MH: let's start with one, the sooner we get results the better
<Detlev> fine
EV: or we could do a two-way rocket: first one of our 'own', after that make it more open.
<Detlev> Can we also agree that we have a second public call for evaluation soon?
+1
<Liz> fine
EV: talk about opening up the survey to include more website next week, start with one asap
three
<Detlev> +1
<Liz> 4H
4h +1
<Mike_Elledge> +1
<Detlev> I don't mind really
ev: start with 4h , others we'll discuss next
week
... I'll make a scope suggestiong, please comment on that before monday
morning
+1
<Liz> +1
<Mike_Elledge> +1
EV: is this ok?
DF: what feedback are you expecting?
EV: i'll figure out a suggestion with sarah and mail it to the list
DF: can you ask for consensus to add an open call ?
<Kathy> +1
<EricVelleman> +1
<Detlev> +1!!!
+1
<Mike_Elledge> +1
<Liz> +1
EV: we'll discuss this next week, and i'll make a
changed survey so we can discuss this
... survey will be launched monday evening, i'll sort things out with shadi
w3c
... how long should we keep it open?
... proposal to keep it open to 10th april
DF: is there a deadline for final publication?
EV: last december.. we didn't make that
... like to finish it
... if necessary we can change it later
... if we do an open call, we'll take longer to finish
... to process everybody's results
EV: we have a preliminary agenda
... no quorum there, so everything will be discussed in the group