Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 03 March 2014

<mgylling> scribe: madi

Madi is recognized as scribe

We'll be picking up from last week's meeting of reports

Last week's meeting have been approved.

<tzviya> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2014Feb/0069.html

Latin Req continues

<tzviya> Latin Req http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pagination/index.html

Examples of drop cap issues recently published.

Today, we'll figure out the logistics of publishing and next steps after the draft is out.

Identifying a common understanding

Ivan commented on images that need fixing.

markus: on to logistics

Ivan: first drafts are registered with a short name

Ralph will be asked for a green light for Latin Req

\A date will have to be agreed on; Tuesday and Thursdays. If agreed, send this to the webmaster.

In practice for first time, let's agree that the document is ready one week before the publishing date. Thierry will place the document in its final place.

Editors will check details, links, etc.

If we can agree on March 13, we should have the document ready this Thurs or Friday.

Publishing on March 13 is acceptable.

<azaroth> And to Rob too please for the annotation doc

Identifying final editors

<ivan> http://www.w3.org/2005/07/pubrules

Feedback welcome on the basic structure of the document

Document will be ready by Thursday.

<ivan> PROPOSED: publish latinreq on the 13

From Ralph, we'll need a resolve to publish Latin Req.

<liza> Hooray!

<ivan> RESOLVED: publish latinreq on the 13

Markus: Any objections? No Resolved.

<Luc> well done!

Since the Annotations draft to the Implementation COmmunity Group, received some feedback.

May be some more use cases from the Community Group.

Annotations for Accessibility and Internationalisation added

Use case of annotating complete phrases rather than enumeration's added

Ivan: this is very important. Very clear use case.

After adding the two use cases, document would be ready to go.

<azaroth> http://www.openannotation.org/usecases.html

<azaroth> is the static version. The editor version is https://github.com/w3c/dpub-annotation

<ivan> http://w3c.github.io/dpub-annotation/

Markus: Rob - the same timeline will be acceptable

<ivan> PROPOSED: publish ann use cases on the 13

First working draft of Use Cases - any objections?

<ivan> ...

<liza> Hooray x2

<Luc> +1

<tzviya> :)

<ivan> RESOLVED: publish ann use cases on the 13

Markus: Great! Resolved.

Thierry will be doing work on both.

Markus: moving on...

Agenda was too packed last week, so hereby extending the topic here

Tsyvia: Behavioural UI discussion: 1) creating something that enables a system to do something interesting

Tzviya: another we haven't gotten into, extending the ePub3 vocabulary to refine HTML to a books vocabulary

Possibly through an HTML extension

Tzviya: further refinements for messaging

Markus: Category on adaptational styles for dynamically manipulating CSS

Tzviya: a lot of ways to readers want to manipulate content. Three players: Readers, Systems, and the Author

Must make sure the reader is still manipulable.

Scratch that. Readers are not manipulable.

Markus: Multiple examples for dynamic manipulations with precision.

Tzviya: Yes, like colors.

Markus: Those are the 2 or 3 threads circulating. You also mentioned that Use Cases are lacking

Tzviya: Yes. Short cut behaviour has not generated a lot of interest. There might be more with the others.

Aria?

Tzviya: let's temporarily table the stage two, and get to structure and metadata with Aria (sp)

This is coming up with the eduPub group, so may work well.

<liza> ARIA is right

Markus: CSS Style manipulation - anyone interested?
... Anyone with more examples?
... One of the most common complaints regarding content in reading systems.
... Would be great to find to advocate a solution on this

CSS manipulation?

Suzanne: Happy to contribute.

Markus: to Tzviya ok to table the CSS stuff and continue to gain use cases to flesh out

<liza> Ahem

Markus: reading system developers are in the group: Google, Apple. They might provide guidance.

<liam> /me q-

Madi notes:Safari

<liza> Hooray!

Does anyone know of any Service providers that have documented declarative extension of HTML5?

Need to understand what kind of extensions are available.

Tzviya: ARIA example

Markus to Tzviya: plan for the short term agreed

Any questions regarding behaviour?

No questions

Next in line is Jean K

In the absence of Jean, anything we can do with STEM...

Table this for next week?

No objections.

AOB?

2 documents that are planned for publication. Short name request. Please agree on short names that were proposed.

for Annotations...will paste in IRC...

<tmichel> dpub-annotation-uc/

Markus: shouldn't reserve Annotation just to us, there are others.

<tzviya> dpub-anno-uc?

Ivan: keeping the dpub is good

Any objections to the short name for annotation?

Resolved.

<tmichel> dpub-pagination/

<tmichel> or dpub-latinreq/

<azaroth> dpub-latinreq-uc ?

<azaroth> okay :)

LatinReq is preferred

latinereq - any objections?

correction: latinreq

<liza> dpub-latinreq

yes, dpub-latinreq

IVan: summer hours changing in Europe

<liza> Technically, US changes

<liza> but US meeting time does NOT change

This weekend the times change in the US, not EUR

Markus: Anything else?
... Thank you all.