I only hear John in audio, anyone else?

<scribe> scribe: jorge

<labra> I am trying to connect...it doesn't let me get in

<jmccrae> now I hear nothing

<labra> it says the conference code 2765 is invalid :(

<labra> are you connected to the audio conference?

let's change the starting time at 12:15. Actually we have put off the first point in the agenda

Yes, jose, we are in

<labra> ok...

(only John and me and Lupe actually)

<MTCarrasco> +1.617.761.6200 2765#

hi, Manuel, are you in audio?

<MTCarrasco> Yes

@jose: we are starting, can you follow on IRC?

<labra> yes...I can try...

in the meantime you can try again with the phone

<MTCarrasco> From Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group (DWBP WG) - http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices

<labra> I am calling by skype to that number and it keeps saying the code is invalid...

<MTCarrasco> Tone phone?

you are dialing +1.617.761.6200 I assume

<labra> skype

<labra> yes

well, this is weird, I am also on skype

anyway, let's start...

ITS group

<labra> ok...you can start and I will follow by irc and keep trying it

presentation by Felix postoponed

2. Last pattern for naming: Include Language in URIs

https://www.w3.org/community/bpmlod/wiki/Best_practises_-_previous_notes#Patterns_for_Naming

it is not the same put the language tag in the server name or in the fragment

(John said)

jose: the pattern consider both

john: the distinction matters

<MTCarrasco> Both must be allowed: http://es.example.com - http://example.com/foo.en

jose: do you want to introduce a new pattern?

<labra> maybe a subpattern?

<labra> include language in host vs include language in path?

john: both have different implications

<scribe> ACTION: john to add the new subpattern [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/21-bpmlod-minutes.html#action01]

<MTCarrasco> www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices

@Manuel: do you want to brieftly introduce the DBWG to us another day?

<MTCarrasco> http://es.example.com - http://example.com/foo.es - two ways to get to the Spanish variant

<MTCarrasco> Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group (DWBP WG) http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki

3. Next steps for patterns on naming: A deeper analysis of the usage of the patterns for naming is needed.

<MTCarrasco> I have to go early. Bye.

<scribe> ACTION: jorge to send reminder to the list (analysis of usage of naming patterns) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/21-bpmlod-minutes.html#action02]

4. Patterns for dereferencing.

pattern P1.6/P1.7 language/no language negotiations

jose: language content redirection as something intermediate ?

jose. I am not a ware of any language negotiation in the context of semantic data systems

john: in rdf you have the label, you do not need content negotiation
... originally for saving bandwith
... not many arguments in language content negotiation in LD

*in favour of

<labra> http://example.com ---> accept-language: es -- 303 --> http://es.example.com

<scribe> ACTION: jose to document new pattern "language content redirection" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/21-bpmlod-minutes.html#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: jose to send template w3c-like for start documenting the best practises [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/21-bpmlod-minutes.html#action04]

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Present: jmccrae jorge labra lupe MTCarrasco
Agenda: https://www.w3.org/community/bpmlod/wiki/Teleconference,_21/02/2014#Agenda
Got date from IRC log name: 21 Feb 2014
Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2014/02/21-bpmlod-minutes.html
People with action items: john jorge jose

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