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11:04:54 <jorge> meeting: bpmlod
11:05:29 <jorge> I only hear John in audio, anyone else?
11:06:02 <jorge> agenda: https://www.w3.org/community/bpmlod/wiki/Teleconference,_21/02/2014#Agenda
11:06:26 <jorge> rrsagent, make log public
11:08:09 <jorge> scribe: jorge
11:08:29 <jorge> present: jmccrae, jorge, labra, lupe, MTCarrasco
11:09:14 <labra> I am trying to connect...it doesn't let me get in
11:10:59 <jmccrae> now I hear nothing
11:11:16 <labra> it says the conference code 2765 is invalid :(
11:11:38 <labra> are you connected to the audio conference?
11:11:56 <jorge> let's change the starting time at 12:15. Actually we have put off the first point in the agenda
11:12:00 <jorge> Yes, jose, we are in
11:12:11 <labra> ok...
11:12:12 <jorge> (only John and me and Lupe actually)
11:12:24 <MTCarrasco> +1.617.761.6200 2765#
11:14:29 <jorge> hi, Manuel, are you in audio?
11:14:47 <MTCarrasco> Yes
11:16:13 <jorge> @jose: we are starting, can you follow on IRC?
11:16:38 <labra> yes...I can try...
11:16:58 <jorge> in the meantime you can try again with the phone
11:17:03 <MTCarrasco> From Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group (DWBP WG) - http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices
11:17:10 <labra> I am calling by skype to that number and it keeps saying the code is invalid...
11:17:47 <MTCarrasco> Tone phone?
11:17:50 <jorge> you are dialing +1.617.761.6200 I assume
11:17:55 <labra> skype
11:18:03 <labra> yes
11:18:26 <jorge> well, this is weird, I am also on skype
11:18:32 <jorge> anyway, let's start...
11:18:43 <jorge> topic: ITS group
11:18:52 <labra> ok...you can start and I will follow by irc and keep trying it
11:19:20 <jorge> presentation by Felix postoponed
11:20:51 <jorge> topic: 2. Last pattern for naming: Include Language in URIs
11:22:33 <jorge> https://www.w3.org/community/bpmlod/wiki/Best_practises_-_previous_notes#Patterns_for_Naming
11:23:40 <MTCarrasco> q+
11:26:39 <jorge> it is not the same put the language tag in the server name or in the fragment
11:27:02 <jorge> (John said)
11:27:39 <jorge> jose: the pattern consider both
11:27:51 <jorge> john: the distinction matters
11:28:18 <MTCarrasco> Both must be allowed:  http://es.example.com  -  http://example.com/foo.en
11:29:30 <jorge> jose: do you want to introduce a new pattern?
11:30:11 <labra> maybe a subpattern?
11:30:37 <labra> include language in host vs include language in path?
11:31:02 <jorge> john: both have different implications
11:32:11 <jorge> action: john to add the new subpattern
11:32:36 <jorge> ack MT
11:38:47 <MTCarrasco> www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices
11:41:33 <jorge> @Manuel: do you want to brieftly introduce the DBWG to us another day?
11:41:39 <MTCarrasco>  http://es.example.com  -  http://example.com/foo.es - two ways to get to the Spanish variant
11:42:24 <MTCarrasco> Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group (DWBP WG)  http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki
11:42:54 <jorge> topic: 3. Next steps for patterns on naming: A deeper analysis of the usage of the patterns for naming is needed.
11:43:32 <MTCarrasco> I have to go early. Bye.
11:44:31 <jorge> action: jorge to send reminder to the list (analysis of usage of naming patterns)
11:44:51 <jorge> topic: 4. Patterns for dereferencing.
11:47:12 <jorge> pattern P1.6/P1.7 language/no language negotiations
11:47:29 <jorge> jose: language content redirection as something intermediate ?
11:48:38 <jorge> jose. I am not a ware of any language negotiation in the context of semantic data systems
11:49:30 <jorge> john: in rdf you have the label, you do not need content negotiation
11:50:14 <jorge> john: originally for saving bandwith
11:51:11 <jorge> john: not many arguments in language content negotiation in LD
11:51:26 <jorge> *in favour of
11:51:36 <labra> http://example.com ---> accept-language: es -- 303 --> http://es.example.com
11:56:38 <jorge> action: jose to document new pattern "language content redirection"
11:57:05 <jorge> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:57:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/21-bpmlod-minutes.html jorge
11:57:46 <jorge> chair: jose, jorge
11:57:53 <jorge> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:57:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/21-bpmlod-minutes.html jorge
11:59:18 <jorge> action: jose to send template w3c-like for start documenting the best practises
11:59:36 <jorge> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:59:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/21-bpmlod-minutes.html jorge