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EV: Vivian had proposed a website - possibly the library in Australia site.
<shadi> [[From Vivienne: We still have approval to do the Edith Cowan University Library website - we
<shadi> were saving this one for a test.]]
Shadi: What type of website are we looking for?
EV: We want a website that is not too complex,
but not necessarily a purely HTML website.
... A not too old or too modern website.
Shadi: A medium sized website
EV: Want a website that is easy to describe in the scope.
ME: Suggested site would be a university website that has something to do with accessibility.
Shadi: There are several universities that could
fall into this category. We'd have to get permission from the University, of
course.
... We could check a part of a university website, like a particular
department. A whole university website would be too large for our test.
SS: There are a couple of colleges within
Michigan State University that might be willing to have their website be an
example. Like a part of the College of Communications Arts and Sciences.
... Can talk to the webmaster of that college, because that website has a lot
of different functions - even a donation part.
... There is an accessibility policy and it is likely this content is not
fully compliant yet. As focus is being increased in accessibility of the web
content, it would be a good candidate.
<Mike_Elledge> +1
<martijnhoutepen> +1
<EricVelleman> +1
<Liz> +1
+1
EV: Since there is still work to be done to make the site comply, it could be a really good test case and it would be helpful for them to have the test results so they can know areas to address to improve the accessibility of the site.
SS: Will be some work to organize this and get approvals, but am willing to take that on.'
Shadi: We won't make a decision yet, as we need a
full quorum from this group to approve the idea.
... We can provide evaluation results to whatever organization or website so
they can see the results, but there won't be any follow-up work done on our
group's part to help them fix things.
SS: There are also other groups at the college that could fit what we want. There is a variety of website possibilities that might fit various levels of compliance. We may need a pre-screening to make sure the site fits the things we want to test in our document.
Shadi: Library websites may be more challenging for us, as they often require a login to gain access to many of the website services.
EV: We need some pre-screening selection criteria
to help us select the kind of website we want to evaluate.
... Some criteria - No login to access website, a public website.
SS: Make sure there is some video content and
some dynamic content, and images, .pdfs, etc. A variety of content with some
interactive content.
... Something with a form in it.
EV: We need to look in the sampling criteria we
have in the document and make sure this type of content is present in the
website we evaluate.
... Colleges will probably have more interactive content and video content
because that makes it interesting to students.
... Perhaps a government agency would be good. However, they typically are
already required to be compliant so it might not be an interesting test.
Shadi: Government sites might not be willing to
allow this kind of test, as many are required by regulation for the sites to be
accessible and it could be perceived negatively if we find problems.
... Whatever website we evaluate, the results will be anonymous.
... We'll have to be careful that results are not made public in any way,
through email, etc.
EV: Not a government website, preferrably an
English language college website.
... Eric will look into library websites to see if any would meet parameters
for a test run.
SS: Will send Eric a list of possible websites privately. Library websites often link to non-library sites and pages that aren't under their control for accessibility.
<shadi> +1 want a website with the majority of content within the website
SS: Need to choose a site that we would have the
majority of content be in that site, not a portal to other 3rd party
content.
... College of Human Medicine, College of Nursing, etc. at the University that
I can see if they are willing to have their site participate. We'll position
this as something helpful that they'll benefit from the review as we test our
methodology.
... There is a lot of faculty, several locations for these medical colleges so
there's a lot of content to use for our test.
Shadi: We possibly could look into testing content for a single faculty member if there's enough content.
SS: Will send a private message to all members of this working group regarding the suggested sites.
Shadi: Still working on the logistics for this.
ME: WCAG/Adobe has a room, so maybe we can carve out time after their workshop for us to meet in that room.
Shadi: We should pick up a few of the comments we've received, like the scoring, to discuss face-to-face.
SS: Do we have a time of day?
Shadi: We're meeting Monday & Tuesday from 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM
SS: Won't be able to make it until Tues.
afternoon due to presentation in Chicago on Monday.
... Kenote is after 5:30 on Tuesday.
<shadi> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/48225/EvalTF_CSUN2014/results
Shadi: We'll try to finish meeting prior to the keynote speaker.
<Mike_Elledge> maybe dinner?
<Sarah_Swierenga> dinner after the keynote would be fun
<Mike_Elledge> +!
<Mike_Elledge> +1
<shadi> +1
<EricVelleman> +1
<Tim> +1