See also: IRC log
jenit: today is introductions.
ivan: Staff contact for this WG
... Ivan Herman
... general helper with the running of the WG
... W3C is divided into "domain", one is info and knowledge (headed by Ralph)
... within that Data on teh Web - lead Phil Archer
... this WG is under data on the web.
... various WGs finished
... also starting Best Practices for LD publishing
... we are a member (= company) organisation
... also Invited Experts
... two chairs who do the nagging
... process is consensus based
... produce RECs ... process details later
... ptr on the wiki https://www.w3.org/2013/csvw/wiki/Main_Page
danbri: work at Google on schema.org
... get data into the google knowledge graph
... do contact chairs/team by email
... core focus is tabular data
... and now found, interpreted
... "CSV" key for practically grounded work
... rel to RDF
... maybe as data model for metadata
... and maybe as target as data conversion
... use cases, running code drive WG
... unbounded tasks - need to here for a finite time.
... so address real work => use cases and scenarios as problems to solve
JeniT: Open Data Institute / London
... publishing data openly
... web current poor for publishing tabular data
<gavinc> AndyS: Apache Software Foundation / Bristol
<gavinc> ... I've been involved in Apache Jena for a few years, it's an RDF library.
<konstant> Having trouble connecting to the bridge
<gavinc> ... converting CSV files into RDF and building applications on top of them
gregg: In California, may not make many calls
<danbri> gkellogg++ for calling in at 5am
gregg: editor of JSON-LD spec
... similar to JSON-LD
gregg: RDF in Ruby open source toolkit
... I believe in linked data and open publishing
gregg: tools to help with data publishing
<danbri> structured data linter: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2014Jan/0021.html
gregg: worked on microdata in RDF
<danbri> microdata as rdf: http://www.w3.org/TR/microdata-rdf/
<gkellogg> Linter at http://linter.structured-data.org
ericStephan: work for Pacific Northwest labs
... scientific data
... bring about tech to be user friendly and collaborative friendly
... current in wind and climate data areaa
... here to help make rel to science
... in Data on the Web BP WG
<adamretter> Wooh Exeter!
jtandy: Exeter UK - Met Office UK
<konstant> "The conference is full"
<konstant> Sorry guys
jtandy: chair of expert groups in World
... worked on discovery of metadata
... geospatial and earth sciences
... UK gov LD group - publishing reference data
<konstant> No problem, I'll just follow the IRC for today
jtandy: CSV de facto - time series data
... interested in publishing with machine readable semantics -> easier to consume the data
... used as compact RDF to join with other data
... multidimensions-> multiple CSVs -> RDF data cube
rossjones: chester UK / independent dev
rossjones: core CKAN committer
... here because of data quality and improving it
juan: Austin Tx. Phd and confounder of
... ultrawrap -- R2RML
juan: editor of one RDB2RDF specs
... here for CSV to RDF - standard mapping
... another CA coast person
... gov data sources to provide analytics for IP and patent litagation
gavinc: CSV -> RDF -> CSV
<danbri> also seen in http://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/
AndyS: Jena http://jena.apache.org/
adam: London UK The National Archives UK
<JeniT> adam: TNA developed a schema for CSV validation
adam: interested CSV in processable forms ... CSV validation
<adamretter> Sorry. The Wifi here is the worst!
<adamretter> I can here you guys, but it's not great
fresco: Alf Eaton (sp?)
... open access on journal
<danbri> Alf Eaton, see also https://peerj.com/about/
fresco: research data sets and scripts etc
on the web
... distribute, recreate results, to update data.
... dynamic output eg HTML from the data
dceolin: U of Amsterdam
... tools for spreadsheets
... converting to RDF and other formats
... open gov data
jenit: who has not spoken?
Raj Singh: Staff of OGC
scribe: geographic data community
... just N of Boston US
Eric Cohen: XBRL - business reporting
scribe: bring to world of web
danbri: shared doc creation instead of IRC
<EricStephan> +1 Googledocs
<JeniT> anyone object to using Googledocs?
<jtandy> no objection from me
<konstant> +1 Googledocs
danbri: scribe gets to pick tech
<dceolin> +1 Googledocs
danbri: volunteer for next week?
ivan: but then no IRC? Loose other tools
e.g. zakim control
... googledocs means multi auths for multiple places (google, W3C, github)
andys: linking of minutes to agendas etc
danbri: IRC remains
EricStephan: good for side discussions. No timeline in gdocs.
(and record of whose here in auto minutes?)
jenit: use gdocs and works well at ODI
<danbri> perhaps doc-centric collab works best for things like google docs, piratepad; but generally minuting here?
jenit: IRC anyway ... so maybe tend to use IRC.
danbri: scribe next week?
<danbri> next week's scribe; eric stephan
danbri: thanks to ericstephen
... wiki - but don't chnage agenda without letting the chairs know
... github for docs - need github id to Ivan
<adamretter> ivan: my github id is adamretter - but perhaps we should be sending pull-requests?
<jtandy> sorry youre breaking up[
danbri: get a sense of what's out there
... then use to drive the WG work
<JeniT> /me zakim, [IPcaller] is me
<adamretter> nope still cant hear Jeni
<adamretter> im looking forward to the impersonations!
jeniT: use case and requirements
... tools to be built - root in real things and real needs
<danbri> [audio clear now]
jeniT: use cases for what people want to do
with data on the web
... e.g. produce in Excel, load into R, validate, ...
... make as specific as possible
... narrative use case // example datasets // existing tools // existing proposals
... from good to bad "CSV"
... survey tools and limitations/assumptions they have
... so what breaks if we do XYZ
... collect info on existing work for adding info to CSVs - some in charter already
jeniT: links to 4 areas
... share on wiki
... inc put docs into github
<Zakim> danbri, you wanted to suggest wiki also good for project-oriented pages
<adamretter> I dont think I have permission to edit Wiki pages, should I be able to?
<adamretter> JeniT: yes i did
danbri: suggest ideal are real world
situation, real data we can sample, tooling pref open source, add pages
to wiki as needed
... messy can be cleaned
<adamretter> JeniT: face-palm - sorry i see it now
<rsingh2> my "position paper" http://www.ogcnetwork.net/webgeoformats
ivan: on tools
<adamretter> JeniT: actually no I don't - I would like to edit the Tools page - but there is no Edit link?
ivan: what granularity?
<danbri> I've been bookmarking under 'csv' here, https://pinboard.in/u:danbri/t:csv
jenit: any tools used with CSV - can be user facing, can be libraries or cmd line
jtandy: much use of CSV - now adding
semantics sensor network - lack of tooling
... can fill in some areas now
jenit: please add what you have - esp use
cases and concrete
... reference to data is good
jtandy: have linked CVS proposal comments for requirements
jenit: pls everyone do 1+ use case
ivan: pls send email on new UC
<EricStephan> Ivan can you direct me to a scribe tutorial/background?
<Zakim> AndyS, you wanted to ask about email list use
jenit: email for tech discussions - public archives - good for timezone issues
jenit: will talk to danbri and come up with suggestions
<EricStephan> Good to meet everyone
<danbri> thanks all!
<ivan> trackbot, stop telcon
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<ivan> trackbot, end telcon