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XHTML2 WG Weekly Teleconference

Minutes of 01 October 2008

Seen
Gregory Rosmaita, Mark Birbeck, Roland Merrick, Shane McCarron, Tina Holmboe
Regrets
Mark Birbeck
Chair
Roland Merrick
Scribe
Gregory Rosmaita
Previous Meeting
http://www.w3.org/2008/09/24-xhtml-minutes.html
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions

None.

Topics
13:40:18 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/10/01-xhtml-irc

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13:40:38 <RolandMerrick> Zakim, this will be XHTML2

Roland Merrick: Zakim, this will be XHTML2

13:40:38 <Zakim> ok, RolandMerrick; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes

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13:40:47 <RolandMerrick> rrsagent, make minutes

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13:40:56 <RolandMerrick> rrsagent, make log public

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13:41:20 <oedipus> roland, did you send out an agenda?  there isn't an "october" section of the list archive

Gregory Rosmaita: roland, did you send out an agenda? there isn't an "october" section of the list archive

13:42:08 <oedipus> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2008/09/24-xhtml-minutes.html
13:42:42 <Tina> No agenda received here atleast.

Tina Holmboe: No agenda received here atleast.

13:44:30 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has now started

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13:44:37 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita

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13:44:44 <oedipus> Scribe: Gregory_Rosmaita

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13:44:49 <oedipus> ScribeNick: oedipus
13:45:22 <oedipus> chair: Roland_Merrick
13:45:28 <Zakim> +Tina

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13:45:30 <oedipus> rrsagent, make minutes

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13:45:30 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita

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13:45:32 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita

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13:45:43 <Zakim> +Roland

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13:46:16 <oedipus> TOPIC: Announcements & Agenda Shaping

1. Announcements & Agenda Shaping

13:46:26 <oedipus> RM: move forward from where we were last week

Roland Merrick: move forward from where we were last week

13:46:31 <oedipus> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2008/09/24-xhtml-minutes.html
13:46:52 <oedipus> regrets: Mark_Birbeck
13:47:25 <oedipus> rrsagent, make minutes

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13:47:56 <Zakim> +ShaneM

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13:48:05 <oedipus> meeting: XHTML2 WG Weekly Telecon
13:48:14 <Roland> Chair: Roland
13:48:52 <oedipus> mute, Tina

mute, Tina

13:48:56 <oedipus> zakim, mute Tina

zakim, mute Tina

13:48:56 <Zakim> Tina should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Tina should now be muted

13:49:07 <oedipus> zakim, unmute Tina

zakim, unmute Tina

13:49:07 <Zakim> Tina should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Tina should no longer be muted

13:49:23 <oedipus> zakim, who is making noise?

zakim, who is making noise?

13:49:27 <Roland> Meeting: XHTML2 WG Weekly Teleconference
13:49:34 <Zakim> oedipus, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Tina (45%), Roland (53%)

Zakim IRC Bot: oedipus, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Tina (45%), Roland (53%)

13:49:48 <ShaneM> zakim, mute tina

Shane McCarron: zakim, mute tina

13:49:48 <Zakim> Tina should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Tina should now be muted

13:50:01 <oedipus> RM: action item review from last week

Roland Merrick: action item review from last week

13:50:05 <Roland> actions at: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/open

Roland Merrick: actions at: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/open

13:50:10 <oedipus> RM: tracker now looking after actions and issues now

Roland Merrick: tracker now looking after actions and issues now

13:50:39 <oedipus> GJR notes that one should be able to bookmark a "my tracker" link for bookmarking if don't have one already

GJR notes that one should be able to bookmark a "my tracker" link for bookmarking if don't have one already

13:50:49 <oedipus> RM: actions from last week didn't get into tracking system

Roland Merrick: actions from last week didn't get into tracking system

13:50:57 <oedipus> zakim, who is here?

zakim, who is here?

13:50:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gregory_Rosmaita, Tina (muted), Roland, ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Gregory_Rosmaita, Tina (muted), Roland, ShaneM

13:50:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see alessio, ShaneM, Roland, RRSAgent, Zakim, Tina, oedipus, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see alessio, ShaneM, Roland, RRSAgent, Zakim, Tina, oedipus, trackbot

13:51:22 <Roland> last weeks actions: http://www.w3.org/2008/09/24-xhtml-minutes#ActionSummary

Roland Merrick: last weeks actions: http://www.w3.org/2008/09/24-xhtml-minutes#ActionSummary

13:51:44 <oedipus> RM: 1 to shane to reply to comments; created draft - i and steven replied

Roland Merrick: 1 to shane to reply to comments; created draft - i and steven replied

13:51:50 <oedipus> SM: no other replies received

Shane McCarron: no other replies received

13:51:59 <oedipus> GJR: plus 1 to reply

Gregory Rosmaita: plus 1 to reply

13:52:06 <oedipus> RM: send response

Roland Merrick: send response

13:52:15 <oedipus> SM: will make SP's suggested change and send out

Shane McCarron: will make SP's suggested change and send out

13:52:27 <oedipus> RM: media type heuristic samples from SP to Tina

Roland Merrick: media type heuristic samples from SP to Tina

13:52:31 <Tina> Zakim, unmute me

Tina Holmboe: Zakim, unmute me

13:52:31 <Zakim> Tina should no longer be muted

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13:52:52 <oedipus> TH: being integrated as we speak - hope to publish by friday, will let list know

Tina Holmboe: being integrated as we speak - hope to publish by friday, will let list know

13:52:52 <Tina> Zakim, mute me

Tina Holmboe: Zakim, mute me

13:52:52 <Zakim> Tina should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Tina should now be muted

13:53:17 <oedipus> RM: still have to deal with @target - TH, didn't you take action item on that?

Roland Merrick: still have to deal with @target - TH, didn't you take action item on that?

13:53:26 <oedipus> TH: yes - assigned last week

Tina Holmboe: yes - assigned last week

13:53:28 <Tina> I have some thoughts on the topic, but will assemble them later.

Tina Holmboe: I have some thoughts on the topic, but will assemble them later.

13:53:32 <oedipus> q+

q+

13:54:00 <oedipus> RM: CURIE syntax  -- should have something shortly from TAG

Roland Merrick: CURIE syntax -- should have something shortly from TAG

13:54:27 <oedipus> SM: didn't know there were 2 tag mailing lists, so didn't know was second list until recently

Shane McCarron: didn't know there were 2 tag mailing lists, so didn't know was second list until recently

13:54:34 <oedipus> q?

q?

13:55:01 <oedipus> SM: providing us with language to make us happy, but misquoted the document by suggesting new wording for an issue that doesn't exist - misquote def of lexical space

Shane McCarron: providing us with language to make us happy, but misquoted the document by suggesting new wording for an issue that doesn't exist - misquote def of lexical space

13:55:11 <oedipus> SM: as long as it is not wrong, just do it

Shane McCarron: as long as it is not wrong, just do it

13:55:39 <oedipus> RM: team meeting on modularization this week

Roland Merrick: team meeting on modularization this week

13:56:30 <oedipus> GJR: also @lang discussion

Gregory Rosmaita: also @lang discussion

13:56:37 <oedipus> RM: in latest mime-type document

Roland Merrick: in latest mime-type document

13:56:56 <oedipus> TOPIC: From the Back Burner to the Front

2. From the Back Burner to the Front

13:57:09 <oedipus> RM: hoped to get new XHTML2 draft out, but waiting on cleaning of other docs

Roland Merrick: hoped to get new XHTML2 draft out, but waiting on cleaning of other docs

13:57:20 <oedipus> SM: XML Events 2, and CURIEs and Access

Shane McCarron: XML Events 2, and CURIEs and Access

13:57:33 <oedipus> RM: all others moving through system; XML Events 2 stalled on way to LC

Roland Merrick: all others moving through system; XML Events 2 stalled on way to LC

13:57:45 <oedipus> SM: waiting on comments from forms group as i recall

Shane McCarron: waiting on comments from forms group as i recall

13:57:53 <oedipus> RM: asked them a question?

Roland Merrick: asked them a question?

13:57:56 <oedipus> SM: yes

Shane McCarron: yes

13:58:37 <oedipus> rrsagent, make minutes

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13:59:06 <oedipus> SM: SP had action to convey to forms; can't remember action

Shane McCarron: SP had action to convey to forms; can't remember action

13:59:09 <oedipus> RM: me neither

Roland Merrick: me neither

13:59:18 <oedipus> RM: change of names - "dispatch" and the like...

Roland Merrick: change of names - "dispatch" and the like...

13:59:36 <oedipus> RM: SM do you have handle on issues

Roland Merrick: SM do you have handle on issues

13:59:54 <oedipus> SM: no outstanding issues, except we asked XForms for one thing because we didn't know what to do?

Shane McCarron: no outstanding issues, except we asked XForms for one thing because we didn't know what to do?

13:59:59 <oedipus> RM: timing questions?

Roland Merrick: timing questions?

14:00:07 <oedipus> SM: when are you fed registers?

Shane McCarron: when are you fed registers?

14:00:08 <Roland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jun/0094.html

Roland Merrick: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jun/0094.html

14:00:22 <oedipus> RM: reply to SP's question on this

Roland Merrick: reply to SP's question on this

14:00:56 <oedipus> RM: question posed - wasn't it originally markB's question?

Roland Merrick: question posed - wasn't it originally markB's question?

14:01:23 <oedipus> RM: question is: can we be specific  - expect before document is ready?

Roland Merrick: question is: can we be specific - expect before document is ready?

14:01:36 <oedipus> RM: farther into events or can you specify before

Roland Merrick: farther into events or can you specify before

14:01:39 <oedipus> SM: before what?

Shane McCarron: before what?

14:01:51 <oedipus> RM: don't know - just trying to interpret their message

Roland Merrick: don't know - just trying to interpret their message

14:02:31 <oedipus> SM: unfortunate that we have to come up with an answer -- it is a DOM issue

Shane McCarron: unfortunate that we have to come up with an answer -- it is a DOM issue

14:03:07 <oedipus> RM: what can we rely on - execution of script during loading process - will be available before any user interactions?

Roland Merrick: what can we rely on - execution of script during loading process - will be available before any user interactions?

14:03:19 <oedipus> RM: inspired by XForms

Roland Merrick: inspired by XForms

14:03:38 <oedipus> SM: most UAs allow user interaction beforeDOMReady, so don't know if we can make such a statement

Shane McCarron: most UAs allow user interaction beforeDOMReady, so don't know if we can make such a statement

14:04:12 <oedipus> RM: that's my point and why have to defer to DOM -- if present events prior to DomReady, can't tell  you about it until DOMReady

Roland Merrick: that's my point and why have to defer to DOM -- if present events prior to DomReady, can't tell you about it until DOMReady

14:04:46 <oedipus> RM: should pose question to DOM3 guys - had joint call with them previously (month or so ago)

Roland Merrick: should pose question to DOM3 guys - had joint call with them previously (month or so ago)

14:05:16 <oedipus> RM: call with Doug Schepers - take back to doug and DOM guys and say "interesting question: what do YOU suggest?"

Roland Merrick: call with Doug Schepers - take back to doug and DOM guys and say "interesting question: what do YOU suggest?"

14:05:20 <oedipus> SM: reasonable

Shane McCarron: reasonable

14:06:09 <oedipus> ACTION: Roland - write to DOM3 guys on when registration will occur and when events can be fired; coordinate deeper discussion

ACTION: Roland - write to DOM3 guys on when registration will occur and when events can be fired; coordinate deeper discussion

14:06:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1 - - write to DOM3 guys on when registration will occur and when events can be fired; coordinate deeper discussion [on Roland Merrick - due 2008-10-08].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-1 - - write to DOM3 guys on when registration will occur and when events can be fired; coordinate deeper discussion [on Roland Merrick - due 2008-10-08].

14:06:27 <oedipus> RM: led to second question: should listeners be "live"?

Roland Merrick: led to second question: should listeners be "live"?

14:06:43 <oedipus> RM: "should listeners react?"

Roland Merrick: "should listeners react?"

14:06:55 <oedipus> RM: answer proposed interesting, but not sure that i agree with it

Roland Merrick: answer proposed interesting, but not sure that i agree with it

14:07:15 <oedipus> RM: what is point of addListener - after executed expect that listener to be working

Roland Merrick: what is point of addListener - after executed expect that listener to be working

14:08:01 <oedipus> SM: my view is that the various XML Events attributes are processed atomically at some point in initialization process, so think have to act as if all initialized at once

Shane McCarron: my view is that the various XML Events attributes are processed atomically at some point in initialization process, so think have to act as if all initialized at once

14:08:21 <oedipus> RM: if add to DOM via script, want it to run pre-DOMReady or while loads

Roland Merrick: if add to DOM via script, want it to run pre-DOMReady or while loads

14:09:53 <oedipus> SM: if i had a script which provided new content that included an addListener; as part of my inner HTML call, going to trigger DOM mutation event, so some handler could know that there had been a change to the DOM and go and process it, but if implemented XML Events handler in javascript (client-side thing not built into UA) don't know when going to get  event or if get reliably; don't want to have to traverse entire tree

Shane McCarron: if i had a script which provided new content that included an addListener; as part of my inner HTML call, going to trigger DOM mutation event, so some handler could know that there had been a change to the DOM and go and process it, but if implemented XML Events handler in javascript (client-side thing not built into UA) don't know when going to get event or if get reliably; don't want to have to traverse entire tree

14:10:09 <oedipus> SM: mutation events ocur in nodes, could walk down them - ugly, but doable

Shane McCarron: mutation events ocur in nodes, could walk down them - ugly, but doable

14:10:16 <oedipus> RM: what author expects to happen

Roland Merrick: what author expects to happen

14:10:35 <oedipus> GJR: would be good for Assistive Tech being prepared to use expert handler

Gregory Rosmaita: would be good for Assistive Tech being prepared to use expert handler

14:11:07 <oedipus> RM: answer to listener live: yes; ignore if DOM mutation adds addListener should be processed as happens

Roland Merrick: answer to listener live: yes; ignore if DOM mutation adds addListener should be processed as happens

14:11:20 <oedipus> SM: similarly, if Listener elements are removed, then what

Shane McCarron: similarly, if Listener elements are removed, then what

14:11:52 <oedipus> RM: when add and remove -- what is processing model for segment -- if remove listener, that is fine (presumably executed at right time)

Roland Merrick: when add and remove -- what is processing model for segment -- if remove listener, that is fine (presumably executed at right time)

14:12:17 <oedipus> RM: if remove second node, may not get there anyway by DOM because nodes wouldn't generate any events because no longer exist

Roland Merrick: if remove second node, may not get there anyway by DOM because nodes wouldn't generate any events because no longer exist

14:13:25 <oedipus> SM: shoe-horning declarative event model; DOM Event collection (stack for every event, lists handlers in bubbling order) -- if removing or adding nodes to DOM could pose problems;

Shane McCarron: shoe-horning declarative event model; DOM Event collection (stack for every event, lists handlers in bubbling order) -- if removing or adding nodes to DOM could pose problems;

14:13:44 <oedipus> SM: think way UAs work today, if use script element with AddEvent call in it, would that get executed?

Shane McCarron: think way UAs work today, if use script element with AddEvent call in it, would that get executed?

14:13:53 <oedipus> SM: pretty sure answer is no

Shane McCarron: pretty sure answer is no

14:14:04 <oedipus> RM: if in function, and that function invoked, then would get executed

Roland Merrick: if in function, and that function invoked, then would get executed

14:14:06 <oedipus> SM: sure

Shane McCarron: sure

14:15:25 <oedipus> SM: if, for example, you implement listener through XML Events 2 declarative statements, and then you register handler that uses the listener (this event will result in action x in listener) - if remove from DOM, what would happen?  thing in the DOM is not the script but something that told XML engine how to create an listener - not bound to DOM node anymore

Shane McCarron: if, for example, you implement listener through XML Events 2 declarative statements, and then you register handler that uses the listener (this event will result in action x in listener) - if remove from DOM, what would happen? thing in the DOM is not the script but something that told XML engine how to create an listener - not bound to DOM node anymore

14:15:34 <oedipus> SM: how i envision this model

Shane McCarron: how i envision this model

14:16:19 <oedipus> RM: need to explore and map out actions: notification of events, removal of listings, should describe these scenarios

Roland Merrick: need to explore and map out actions: notification of events, removal of listings, should describe these scenarios

14:17:47 <oedipus> RM: XHR inserts code into DOM, when register listener should be able to assert when -- will continue to explore possibilities and what happens with registration and deregistration of listeners at load time and at unload; use XML Events as alternate for script need to define these options

Roland Merrick: XHR inserts code into DOM, when register listener should be able to assert when -- will continue to explore possibilities and what happens with registration and deregistration of listeners at load time and at unload; use XML Events as alternate for script need to define these options

14:18:25 <oedipus> ACTION: Roland - explore possibilities and what happens with registration and deregistration of listeners at load time and at unload

ACTION: Roland - explore possibilities and what happens with registration and deregistration of listeners at load time and at unload

14:18:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2 - - explore possibilities and what happens with registration and deregistration of listeners at load time and at unload [on Roland Merrick - due 2008-10-08].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-2 - - explore possibilities and what happens with registration and deregistration of listeners at load time and at unload [on Roland Merrick - due 2008-10-08].

14:18:28 <Roland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Aug/0035

Roland Merrick: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Aug/0035

14:18:34 <oedipus> rrsagent, make minutes

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14:18:54 <oedipus> TOPIC: XForms Group Feedback

3. XForms Group Feedback

14:19:07 <oedipus> RM: may have investigated - use @target in other places for other things

Roland Merrick: may have investigated - use @target in other places for other things

14:19:30 <Roland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0029

Roland Merrick: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0029

14:20:23 <oedipus> RM: "dispatch element" in XForms, we have "dispatch event"

Roland Merrick: "dispatch element" in XForms, we have "dispatch event"

14:20:44 <oedipus> RM: minutes from february f2f to find how "dispatch event" got in

Roland Merrick: minutes from february f2f to find how "dispatch event" got in

14:21:13 <oedipus> ACTION: Roland - review XML Events 2 issues comprehensively;

ACTION: Roland - review XML Events 2 issues comprehensively;

14:21:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-3 - - review XML Events 2 issues comprehensively; [on Roland Merrick - due 2008-10-08].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-3 - - review XML Events 2 issues comprehensively; [on Roland Merrick - due 2008-10-08].

14:21:37 <oedipus> RM: may thrash out at face2face and break-outs - will try to get as much info to the WG before F2F

Roland Merrick: may thrash out at face2face and break-outs - will try to get as much info to the WG before F2F

14:21:48 <oedipus> TOPIC: Role Module Status

4. Role Module Status

14:21:58 <oedipus> RM: where are we with Role? waiting on CURIEs?

Roland Merrick: where are we with Role? waiting on CURIEs?

14:22:15 <oedipus> SM: had comments from XML CG - just responded to them and posted to list

Shane McCarron: had comments from XML CG - just responded to them and posted to list

14:22:30 <oedipus> SM: waiting for CURIE transition before advance Role and Access

Shane McCarron: waiting for CURIE transition before advance Role and Access

14:22:37 <oedipus> RM: anything outstanding with Access?

Roland Merrick: anything outstanding with Access?

14:22:45 <oedipus> SM: some editorial changes, mostly just waiting

Shane McCarron: some editorial changes, mostly just waiting

14:23:20 <oedipus> RM: Steven made changes to vocabulary document - should cover response to CG

Roland Merrick: Steven made changes to vocabulary document - should cover response to CG

14:23:26 <oedipus> RM: ready to adjourn?

Roland Merrick: ready to adjourn?

14:23:30 <oedipus> GJR: second the motion

Gregory Rosmaita: second the motion

14:23:57 <oedipus> SM: use balance of time to respond to simon about xhtml mime document

Shane McCarron: use balance of time to respond to simon about xhtml mime document

14:24:10 <oedipus> ADJOURNED

ADJOURNED

14:24:18 <Zakim> -ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM

14:24:20 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita

Zakim IRC Bot: -Gregory_Rosmaita

14:24:20 <Zakim> -Roland

Zakim IRC Bot: -Roland

14:24:23 <Zakim> -Tina

Zakim IRC Bot: -Tina

14:24:24 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended

14:24:25 <Zakim> Attendees were Gregory_Rosmaita, Tina, Roland, ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Gregory_Rosmaita, Tina, Roland, ShaneM

14:24:34 <oedipus> zakim, please part

zakim, please part

14:24:47 <oedipus> rrsagent, make minutes

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14:25:28 <oedipus> rrsagent, please part

rrsagent, please part

14:25:28 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/01-xhtml-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/01-xhtml-actions.rdf :

14:25:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Roland - write to DOM3 guys on when registration will occur and when events can be fired; coordinate deeper discussion [1]

ACTION: Roland - write to DOM3 guys on when registration will occur and when events can be fired; coordinate deeper discussion [1]

14:25:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/01-xhtml-irc#T14-06-09

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/01-xhtml-irc#T14-06-09

14:25:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Roland - explore possibilities and what happens with registration and deregistration of listeners at load time and at unload [2]

ACTION: Roland - explore possibilities and what happens with registration and deregistration of listeners at load time and at unload [2]

14:25:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/01-xhtml-irc#T14-18-25

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/01-xhtml-irc#T14-18-25

14:25:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Roland - review XML Events 2 issues comprehensively; [3]

ACTION: Roland - review XML Events 2 issues comprehensively; [3]

14:25:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/01-xhtml-irc#T14-21-13

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