The minutes from the 3rd Face-to-Face minutes were approved. The group was informed of a new "cross-document" product in the tracker for organization of these issues.
The request for extra features for the PAQ is officially closed.
Noted already submitted reviews and listed intended reviews. Additional reviews for prov-n wil be provided by Khalid, James, Stian, and Tom. Additional reviews from Sam and Hook will be provided for prov-o. Prov-primer has already had extensive reviews and Simon was busy implementing those suggestions. Prov-constraints will hopefully be ready to review by 19 July.
The group was reminded of the upcoming last call vote on July 12 on prov-dm, prov-o, and prov-n. The group was encouraged to raise any potential blocking issues as soon as possible. Also, if members could not make it to the next call, they were encouraged to express their vote via email.
Luc went over the proposed application for a mimetype. The group voted to request text/provenance-notation as the mimetype. The group voted that the extension for filenames should be .provn. Finally, Graham agreed to go through the application and to help reword especially around the phrasing of the UTF-8 requirement.
When dereferencing the prov namespace and requesting an RDF content-type, it was unclear what should be returned because the prov namespace is defined not only by prov-o but also by other notes such as prov-aq. (ISSUE-440) Two possible approaches were discussed. One was merging all the definitions defined by the various specs into one file, the other approach was to use owl:imports. Paul agreed to write up the two proposals and circulate for discussion on the mailing list.
14:43:25 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/07/05-prov-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/07/05-prov-irc ←
14:43:27 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
14:43:29 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be ←
14:43:29 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot ←
14:43:30 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Working Group Teleconference
14:43:30 <trackbot> Date: 05 July 2012
14:43:41 <pgroth> Zakim, this will be PROV
Paul Groth: Zakim, this will be PROV ←
14:43:41 <Zakim> ok, pgroth; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 17 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, pgroth; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 17 minutes ←
14:43:52 <pgroth> Chair: Paul Groth
14:43:57 <pgroth> Scribe: Jun Zhao
(Scribe set to Jun Zhao)
14:44:12 <pgroth> rrsagent, make logs public
Paul Groth: rrsagent, make logs public ←
14:44:21 <pgroth> Regrets: Curt Tilmes
14:55:35 <Zakim> SW_(PROV)11:00AM has now started
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14:55:42 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
14:56:05 <pgroth> Zakim, ??P9 is me
Paul Groth: Zakim, ??P9 is me ←
14:56:05 <Zakim> +pgroth; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +pgroth; got it ←
14:58:46 <Zakim> +??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18 ←
14:58:52 <jun> zakim, ??P18 is me
zakim, ??P18 is me ←
14:58:52 <Zakim> +jun; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jun; got it ←
14:59:02 <Zakim> +sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +sandro ←
14:59:48 <Zakim> +??P21
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P21 ←
14:59:56 <Zakim> + +1.315.330.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.315.330.aaaa ←
15:00:12 <tlebo> zakim, who is on the phone?
Timothy Lebo: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:00:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgroth, jun, sandro, ??P21, +1.315.330.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pgroth, jun, sandro, ??P21, +1.315.330.aaaa ←
15:00:18 <tlebo> zakim, I am aaaa
Timothy Lebo: zakim, I am aaaa ←
15:00:27 <Zakim> +tlebo; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +tlebo; got it ←
15:00:29 <Luc> zakim, who is here?
Luc Moreau: zakim, who is here? ←
15:00:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgroth, jun, sandro, ??P21, tlebo
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pgroth, jun, sandro, ??P21, tlebo ←
15:00:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see jcheney, tlebo, Luc, stephenc, jun, Zakim, RRSAgent, pgroth, MacTed, sandro, trackbot, stain
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see jcheney, tlebo, Luc, stephenc, jun, Zakim, RRSAgent, pgroth, MacTed, sandro, trackbot, stain ←
15:00:56 <Zakim> +??P25
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P25 ←
15:01:06 <Luc> zakim, ??P21 is me
Luc Moreau: zakim, ??P21 is me ←
15:01:09 <Zakim> +Luc; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Luc; got it ←
15:01:38 <Zakim> +??P29
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P29 ←
15:01:55 <Zakim> + +1.818.731.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.818.731.aabb ←
15:02:00 <pgroth> Topic: Admin
Summary: The minutes from the 3rd Face-to-Face minutes were approved. The group was informed of a new "cross-document" product in the tracker for organization of these issues.
<pgroth> Summary: The minutes from the 3rd Face-to-Face minutes were approved. The group was informed of a new "cross-document" product in the tracker for organization of these issues.
15:02:10 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2012-06-28
Paul Groth: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2012-06-28 ←
15:02:16 <Zakim> + +44.131.467.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.131.467.aacc ←
15:02:19 <pgroth> proposed: Minutes of the June 28, 2012 Telecon
PROPOSED: Minutes of the June 28, 2012 Telecon ←
15:02:26 <jun> +1
+1 ←
15:02:26 <Zakim> +??P7
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P7 ←
15:02:43 <khalidBelhajjame> zakim, ??P7 is me
Khalid Belhajjame: zakim, ??P7 is me ←
15:02:44 <Zakim> +khalidBelhajjame; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +khalidBelhajjame; got it ←
15:02:54 <tlebo> 0 (did not attend)
Timothy Lebo: 0 (did not attend) ←
15:03:01 <jcheney> +1
James Cheney: +1 ←
15:03:04 <khalidBelhajjame> +1
Khalid Belhajjame: +1 ←
15:03:15 <Zakim> +Ruben
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ruben ←
15:03:29 <pgroth> accepted: Minutes of the June 28, 2012 Telecon
RESOLVED: Minutes of the June 28, 2012 Telecon ←
15:03:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:03:42 <TomDN> Zakim, Ruben is me
Tom De Nies: Zakim, Ruben is me ←
15:03:42 <Zakim> +TomDN; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +TomDN; got it ←
15:03:44 <pgroth> Day 1 http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2012-06-22
Paul Groth: Day 1 http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2012-06-22 ←
15:03:46 <SamCoppens> zakim, SamCoppens is with TomDN
Sam Coppens: zakim, SamCoppens is with TomDN ←
15:03:46 <Zakim> +SamCoppens; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SamCoppens; got it ←
15:03:54 <pgroth> day 2 http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2012-06-23
Paul Groth: day 2 http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2012-06-23 ←
15:04:03 <Zakim> +??P5
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5 ←
15:04:16 <Zakim> + +44.789.470.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.789.470.aadd ←
15:04:21 <pgroth> proposed: Minutes from F2F3
PROPOSED: Minutes from F2F3 ←
15:04:23 <dgarijo> Zakim, ??P5 is me
Daniel Garijo: Zakim, ??P5 is me ←
15:04:23 <Zakim> +dgarijo; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +dgarijo; got it ←
15:04:28 <stain> Zakim: +44.789.470.aadd is me
15:04:33 <jun> +0 (not there all the time)
+0 (not there all the time) ←
15:04:37 <TomDN> +1
Tom De Nies: +1 ←
15:04:38 <khalidBelhajjame> +1
Khalid Belhajjame: +1 ←
15:04:40 <jcheney> +1
James Cheney: +1 ←
15:04:47 <tlebo> +1
Timothy Lebo: +1 ←
15:04:50 <smiles> 0
Simon Miles: 0 ←
15:04:50 <SamCoppens> +0 (not there)
Sam Coppens: +0 (not there) ←
15:04:58 <dgarijo> +0 (I wasn't there the whole time)
Daniel Garijo: +0 (I wasn't there the whole time) ←
15:05:33 <pgroth> accepted: Minutes from F2F3
RESOLVED: Minutes from F2F3 ←
15:05:50 <Zakim> +??P4
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P4 ←
15:06:25 <jun> ACTION-94 Ivan is still on holiday. we can do that later
ACTION-94 Ivan is still on holiday. we can do that later ←
15:06:25 <trackbot> ACTION-94 Check when we should do internationalization and how for PROV-N notes added
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-94 Check when we should do internationalization and how for PROV-N notes added ←
15:06:26 <Luc> +q
Luc Moreau: +q ←
15:06:44 <pgroth> ack Luc
Paul Groth: ack Luc ←
15:07:13 <jun> Luc: is internationalization for just prov-n or all of them?
Luc Moreau: is internationalization for just prov-n or all of them? ←
15:07:26 <jun> Sandro: for all of them. but we will do it one after another
Sandro Hawke: for all of them. but we will do it one after another ←
15:07:28 <Luc> -q
Luc Moreau: -q ←
15:07:49 <jun> Action 97 and 98 on Paulo
15:07:49 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 97
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - 97 ←
15:07:51 <sandro> sandro: they might want to review them all at once
Sandro Hawke: they might want to review them all at once [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:08:08 <jun> Action 101 on Curt, will move to after LC
ACTION-101 on Curt, will move to after LC ←
15:08:08 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 101
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - 101 ←
15:08:36 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:08:38 <jun> Paul hasn't done his work yet
Paul hasn't done his work yet ←
15:08:52 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/products/14
Paul Groth: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/products/14 ←
15:09:17 <stain> @Jun - you can use "... " as a prefix to say that it is continuation of last person you mentioned
Stian Soiland-Reyes: @Jun - you can use "... " as a prefix to say that it is continuation of last person you mentioned ←
15:09:17 <Zakim> +??P13
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P13 ←
15:09:35 <GK> zakim, ??p13 is me
Graham Klyne: zakim, ??p13 is me ←
15:09:36 <Zakim> +GK; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +GK; got it ←
15:09:37 <jun> ... created a cross-product document
... created a cross-product document ←
15:09:52 <pgroth> Topic: PAQ
Summary: The request for extra features for the PAQ is officially closed.
<pgroth> Summary: The request for extra features for the PAQ is officially closed.
15:10:00 <jun> @stain, I know that. but I don't know how to avoid typing actions :)
@stain, I know that. but I don't know how to avoid typing actions :) ←
15:10:44 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:10:45 <jun> Paul: anyone intending for more feature request for PAQ. otherwise we will close the open call for new features
Paul Groth: anyone intending for more feature request for PAQ. otherwise we will close the open call for new features ←
15:11:01 <tlebo> @paul, just my prov-pingbacks :-)
Timothy Lebo: @paul, just my prov-pingbacks :-) ←
15:11:33 <jun> Paul: it's in the issue track. we might start to look at it next week.
Paul Groth: it's in the issue track. we might start to look at it next week. ←
15:11:39 <pgroth> Topic: Finalizing reviews
Summary: Noted already submitted reviews and listed intended reviews. Additional reviews for prov-n wil be provided by Khalid, James, Stian, and Tom. Additional reviews from Sam and Hook will be provided for prov-o. Prov-primer has already had extensive reviews and Simon was busy implementing those suggestions. Prov-constraints will hopefully be ready to review by 19 July.
<pgroth> Summary: Noted already submitted reviews and listed intended reviews. Additional reviews for prov-n wil be provided by Khalid, James, Stian, and Tom. Additional reviews from Sam and Hook will be provided for prov-o. Prov-primer has already had extensive reviews and Simon was busy implementing those suggestions. Prov-constraints will hopefully be ready to review by 19 July.
15:11:50 <tlebo> @jun, tab will auto-complete user names for you. Try to use usernames instead of real names.
Timothy Lebo: @jun, tab will auto-complete user names for you. Try to use usernames instead of real names. ←
15:12:18 <jun> s/Paul/pgroth/
15:13:07 <jcheney> working on it
James Cheney: working on it ←
15:13:09 <TomDN> (I sent mine just before the telecon)
Tom De Nies: (I sent mine just before the telecon) ←
15:13:17 <jun> Luc: we received feedback from khalid and dgarijo, and jun, and jcheney maybe by tomorrow?
Luc Moreau: we received feedback from khalid and dgarijo, and jun, and jcheney maybe by tomorrow? ←
15:13:33 <jun> ... any other feedback?
... any other feedback? ←
15:13:37 <Zakim> +??P14
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P14 ←
15:14:07 <jun> pgroth: that's all that signed up for. mabye satya, but didn't commit to it
Paul Groth: that's all that signed up for. mabye satya, but didn't commit to it ←
15:14:14 <jun> ... anyone to feedback by tomorrow?
... anyone to feedback by tomorrow? ←
15:14:44 <jun> >jc
>jc ←
15:14:46 <jun> >jc
>jc ←
15:15:03 <jun> Luc: go through feedback on Monday and hope to finish by next telcom
Luc Moreau: go through feedback on Monday and hope to finish by next telcom ←
15:15:26 <khalidBelhajjame> I signed up but I haven't provided the feedback yet
Khalid Belhajjame: I signed up but I haven't provided the feedback yet ←
15:15:29 <jun> Luc: feedback on prov-n; khalid signed up?
Luc Moreau: feedback on prov-n; khalid signed up? ←
15:15:32 <khalidBelhajjame> will try to send iot tomorrow
Khalid Belhajjame: will try to send iot tomorrow ←
15:15:51 <jcheney> also working on it
James Cheney: also working on it ←
15:15:52 <jun> ... jcheney also signed up?
... jcheney also signed up? ←
15:16:10 <TomDN> I had signed up for the primer, but havent done it yet. I could do prov-N instead?
Tom De Nies: I had signed up for the primer, but havent done it yet. I could do prov-N instead? ←
15:16:29 <khalidBelhajjame> @Luc, thanks
Khalid Belhajjame: @Luc, thanks ←
15:16:35 <jun> ... work on the feedback on Wednesday and get ready for the review
... work on the feedback on Wednesday and get ready for the review ←
15:16:38 <TomDN> ok :)
Tom De Nies: ok :) ←
15:16:46 <stain> I can volunteer for anything needing reviewer
Stian Soiland-Reyes: I can volunteer for anything needing reviewer ←
15:17:16 <khalidBelhajjame> that is good for me
Khalid Belhajjame: that is good for me ←
15:17:20 <jun> Luc: feedback by Tuesday lunch time UK time, will be great
Luc Moreau: feedback by Tuesday lunch time UK time, will be great ←
15:17:35 <jun> TomDN and stain also on prov-n
TomDN and stain also on prov-n ←
15:17:40 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:18:12 <jun> tlebo: on prov-o. announced doc to review on tuesday
Timothy Lebo: on prov-o. announced doc to review on tuesday ←
15:18:39 <jun> ... received feedback from luc and jun and one external review. will incorporate in the next couples of days
... received feedback from luc and jun and one external review. will incorporate in the next couples of days ←
15:18:47 <jun> ... Monday will do
... Monday will do ←
15:18:51 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:19:04 <SamCoppens> I will review it also
Sam Coppens: I will review it also ←
15:19:08 <jun> pgroth: anyone else on prov-o?
Paul Groth: anyone else on prov-o? ←
15:19:19 <hook> I can also review it.
Hook Hua: I can also review it. ←
15:19:34 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:19:41 <jun> SamCoppens, hook, and pgroth will also review
SamCoppens, hook, and pgroth will also review ←
15:20:20 <jun> smiles: on primer. we had a lot of reviews. most of them are small
Simon Miles: on primer. we had a lot of reviews. most of them are small ←
15:20:38 <jun> .. will try to fix it tomorrow and get it ready by Saturday
.. will try to fix it tomorrow and get it ready by Saturday ←
15:20:45 <tlebo> @SamCoppens by monday good for you? (Friday would be good, too)
Timothy Lebo: @SamCoppens by monday good for you? (Friday would be good, too) ←
15:20:57 <tlebo> @hook, same as to @SamCoppens
Timothy Lebo: @hook, same as to @SamCoppens ←
15:21:32 <jun> pgroth: we will keep primer open to be adjusted according to other docs
Paul Groth: we will keep primer open to be adjusted according to other docs ←
15:21:43 <SamCoppens> @tlebo sure, that is fine
Sam Coppens: @tlebo sure, that is fine ←
15:21:53 <hook> by Monday for me.
15:22:02 <tlebo> @SamCoppens @hook thanks!
Timothy Lebo: @SamCoppens @hook thanks! ←
15:22:19 <jun> jcheney: on prov-constraints. presumed to be ready for review by 19 July. not ready for review now
James Cheney: on prov-constraints. presumed to be ready for review by 19 July. not ready for review now ←
15:22:44 <TomDN> I'm working through the emails. Hope to catch up soon and provide input
Tom De Nies: I'm working through the emails. Hope to catch up soon and provide input ←
15:23:08 <jun> ... discussed over emails about what to be done. but not totally converged yet. will have time next week to work together with Luc and Paolo
... discussed over emails about what to be done. but not totally converged yet. will have time next week to work together with Luc and Paolo ←
15:23:30 <jun> ... aiming for the end of the july
... aiming for the end of the july ←
15:23:57 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:24:30 <pgroth> Topic: Last Call Vote
Summary: The group was reminded of the upcoming last call vote on July 12 on prov-dm, prov-o, and prov-n. The group was encouraged to raise any potential blocking issues as soon as possible. Also, if members could not make it to the next call, they were encouraged to express their vote via email.
<pgroth> Summary: The group was reminded of the upcoming last call vote on July 12 on prov-dm, prov-o, and prov-n. The group was encouraged to raise any potential blocking issues as soon as possible. Also, if members could not make it to the next call, they were encouraged to express their vote via email.
15:25:01 <jun> pgroth: we will vote on releasing prov-dm, prov-n, and prov-o for last call in the next telcom
Paul Groth: we will vote on releasing prov-dm, prov-n, and prov-o for last call in the next telcom ←
15:25:15 <jun> ... please express your opinions on the mailing list if you can't make to the call
... please express your opinions on the mailing list if you can't make to the call ←
15:25:43 <jun> ... would be nice to know well in advance if there are any outstanding issues to block the release for LC
... would be nice to know well in advance if there are any outstanding issues to block the release for LC ←
15:25:51 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:26:18 <jun> Luc: any feedback, any concern at any time before the vote are welcome
Luc Moreau: any feedback, any concern at any time before the vote are welcome ←
15:26:22 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:26:30 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-N Media Type Application
Summary: Luc went over the proposed application for a mimetype. The group voted to request text/provenance-notation as the mimetype. The group voted that the extension for filenames should be .provn. Finally, Graham agreed to go through the application and to help reword especially around the phrasing of the UTF-8 requirement.
<pgroth> Summary: Luc went over the proposed application for a mimetype. The group voted to request text/provenance-notation as the mimetype. The group voted that the extension for filenames should be .provn. Finally, Graham agreed to go through the application and to help reword especially around the phrasing of the UTF-8 requirement.
15:26:46 <Luc> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-n.html#media-type
Luc Moreau: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-n.html#media-type ←
15:27:46 <stain> q+ Why not .provn as suggested file extension?
Stian Soiland-Reyes: q+ Why not .provn as suggested file extension? ←
15:27:49 <jun> Luc: we have to go through the media types before the LC
Luc Moreau: we have to go through the media types before the LC ←
15:28:02 <stain> +q to suggest .provn as suggested file extension?
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +q to suggest .provn as suggested file extension? ←
15:28:06 <GK> q+ to suggest that the registered media type should be something like text/provenance rarther than text/prov-n
Graham Klyne: q+ to suggest that the registered media type should be something like text/provenance rarther than text/prov-n ←
15:28:14 <jun> ... there is a draft suggestion in the above link. and look for feedback to text/prov-n
... there is a draft suggestion in the above link. and look for feedback to text/prov-n ←
15:28:34 <stain> @GK, but it's PROV-N - not any odd provenance text..
Stian Soiland-Reyes: @GK, but it's PROV-N - not any odd provenance text.. ←
15:28:38 <tlebo> @gk, that's a bit broad, no?
Timothy Lebo: @gk, that's a bit broad, no? ←
15:28:43 <stain> GK has expertise
Stian Soiland-Reyes: GK has expertise ←
15:28:48 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:28:57 <pgroth> ack stain
Paul Groth: ack stain ←
15:28:57 <Zakim> stain, you wanted to suggest .provn as suggested file extension?
Zakim IRC Bot: stain, you wanted to suggest .provn as suggested file extension? ←
15:29:14 <jun> stain: your suggestions generally look good
Stian Soiland-Reyes: your suggestions generally look good ←
15:29:24 <tlebo> stian: .provn ?
Stian Soiland-Reyes: .provn ? [ Scribe Assist by Timothy Lebo ] ←
15:29:30 <TomDN> @gk: we considered both text/prov-n and text/prov at f2f3. (don't recall why we chose prov-n exactly)
Tom De Nies: @gk: we considered both text/prov-n and text/prov at f2f3. (don't recall why we chose prov-n exactly) ←
15:29:31 <pgroth> ack GK
Paul Groth: ack GK ←
15:29:31 <Zakim> GK, you wanted to suggest that the registered media type should be something like text/provenance rarther than text/prov-n
Zakim IRC Bot: GK, you wanted to suggest that the registered media type should be something like text/provenance rarther than text/prov-n ←
15:29:41 <stain> stian: .provn should be somewhat googleable rather than .pn
Stian Soiland-Reyes: .provn should be somewhat googleable rather than .pn [ Scribe Assist by Stian Soiland-Reyes ] ←
15:30:10 <pgroth> provenance-notation
Paul Groth: provenance-notation ←
15:30:22 <jun> GK: find text/provn less intuitive to general audience. text/provenance?
Graham Klyne: find text/provn less intuitive to general audience. text/provenance? ←
15:30:24 <tlebo> provenance-notation seems nice
Timothy Lebo: provenance-notation seems nice ←
15:30:24 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:30:25 <stain> pgroth: text/provenance-notation reads well
Paul Groth: text/provenance-notation reads well [ Scribe Assist by Stian Soiland-Reyes ] ←
15:30:37 <stain> @
15:30:48 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:30:58 <TomDN> It is a bit long...
Tom De Nies: It is a bit long... ←
15:31:02 <tlebo> +1 provenance-notation (length is fine)
Timothy Lebo: +1 provenance-notation (length is fine) ←
15:31:02 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:31:03 <jun> pgroth: text/provenance-notation looks nice
Paul Groth: text/provenance-notation looks nice ←
15:31:05 <sandro> why not "prov-notation"
Sandro Hawke: why not "prov-notation" ←
15:31:08 <jun> GK: length is not the problem
Graham Klyne: length is not the problem ←
15:31:10 <sandro> since the thing is called "prov"
Sandro Hawke: since the thing is called "prov" ←
15:31:13 <smiles> agreed that provenance-notation is good
Simon Miles: agreed that provenance-notation is good ←
15:31:23 <tlebo> application/rdf+xml is "long" , and we get by...
Timothy Lebo: application/rdf+xml is "long" , and we get by... ←
15:31:26 <pgroth> i think GK
Paul Groth: i think GK ←
15:31:27 <khalidBelhajjame> prov-notation
Khalid Belhajjame: prov-notation ←
15:31:31 <jun> sandro: how about text/prov ?
Sandro Hawke: how about text/prov ? ←
15:31:47 <jcheney> I asked "what about text/prov" at the f2f3 and people said no...
James Cheney: I asked "what about text/prov" at the f2f3 and people said no... ←
15:31:56 <sandro> sandro: how about text/prov-notation since prov is the brand name
Sandro Hawke: how about text/prov-notation since prov is the brand name [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:32:19 <stain> .. but it is 'prov' and not 'n' that is the big unknown
Stian Soiland-Reyes: .. but it is 'prov' and not 'n' that is the big unknown ←
15:32:27 <sandro> (actually, I like text/prov, but I wasn't at the f2f so ignore me)
Sandro Hawke: (actually, I like text/prov, but I wasn't at the f2f so ignore me) ←
15:32:31 <TomDN> Non-specialist people didn't know what text/css was either in the beginning...
Tom De Nies: Non-specialist people didn't know what text/css was either in the beginning... ←
15:32:35 <pgroth> what about prov-provenance
Paul Groth: what about prov-provenance ←
15:32:37 <tlebo> why bother shortening it?
Timothy Lebo: why bother shortening it? ←
15:32:48 <tlebo> provenance-notation - tell people what it is :-)
Timothy Lebo: provenance-notation - tell people what it is :-) ←
15:32:52 <stain> or text/html or application/xml or image/png
Stian Soiland-Reyes: or text/html or application/xml or image/png ←
15:33:04 <pgroth> the title of the document is PROV-N: The Provenance Notation
Paul Groth: the title of the document is PROV-N: The Provenance Notation ←
15:33:15 <TomDN> and they didn't make it text/cascading-stylesheet either.
Tom De Nies: and they didn't make it text/cascading-stylesheet either. ←
15:33:23 <stain> so "Provenance Notation" would be quite googleable as well
Stian Soiland-Reyes: so "Provenance Notation" would be quite googleable as well ←
15:33:29 <Luc> what about a straw pall on prov-notation and provenance-notation?
Luc Moreau: what about a straw pall on prov-notation and provenance-notation? ←
15:33:31 <jun> GK: provn might not tell people what this is about. we have to think this might be for people out of the w3c community
Graham Klyne: provn might not tell people what this is about. we have to think this might be for people out of the w3c community ←
15:33:57 <jun> pgroth: we need this before the last call
Paul Groth: we need this before the last call ←
15:34:24 <pgroth> straw poll: mimetype is text/provenance-notation
Paul Groth: straw poll: mimetype is text/provenance-notation ←
15:34:25 <stain> multiple votes allowed or first choice?
Stian Soiland-Reyes: multiple votes allowed or first choice? ←
15:34:26 <jun> Luc: shall we run a poll
Luc Moreau: shall we run a poll ←
15:34:34 <SamCoppens> +1
Sam Coppens: +1 ←
15:34:41 <GK> +1
Graham Klyne: +1 ←
15:34:42 <tlebo> +1
Timothy Lebo: +1 ←
15:34:43 <jun> +1
+1 ←
15:34:45 <stephenc> +1
Stephen Cresswell: +1 ←
15:34:46 <zednik> +1
Stephan Zednik: +1 ←
15:34:47 <TomDN> +0 (not wild about it, but don't want to block anything either)
Tom De Nies: +0 (not wild about it, but don't want to block anything either) ←
15:34:50 <jcheney> 0 (not sure)
James Cheney: 0 (not sure) ←
15:34:51 <smiles> +1
Simon Miles: +1 ←
15:34:51 <sandro> 0
Sandro Hawke: 0 ←
15:34:57 <stain> +1
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1 ←
15:34:58 <tlebo> @stian, if you want something else, do a -1
Timothy Lebo: @stian, if you want something else, do a -1 ←
15:35:05 <Paolo> +1
Paolo Missier: +1 ←
15:35:05 <khalidBelhajjame> +0 (don't mind either of the two options)
Khalid Belhajjame: +0 (don't mind either of the two options) ←
15:35:12 <jcheney> meh...
James Cheney: meh... ←
15:35:23 <dgarijo> +1
Daniel Garijo: +1 ←
15:35:40 <hook> +0 (should be consistant across the brand?)
Hook Hua: +0 (should be consistant across the brand?) ←
15:35:47 <pgroth> straw poll mimetype is text/prov-notation
Paul Groth: straw poll mimetype is text/prov-notation ←
15:35:55 <smiles> +1
Simon Miles: +1 ←
15:35:56 <GK> +1
Graham Klyne: +1 ←
15:35:57 <jun> 0
0 ←
15:35:57 <stain> +1
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1 ←
15:36:00 <dgarijo> +0
Daniel Garijo: +0 ←
15:36:16 <Paolo> 0
Paolo Missier: 0 ←
15:36:17 <tlebo> +0 (better than text/prov-n, though)
Timothy Lebo: +0 (better than text/prov-n, though) ←
15:36:18 <zednik> +0
Stephan Zednik: +0 ←
15:36:19 <SamCoppens> 0
Sam Coppens: 0 ←
15:36:20 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
15:36:22 <jcheney> 0 (why abbreviate part?)
James Cheney: 0 (why abbreviate part?) ←
15:36:56 <Luc> any other suggestion?
Luc Moreau: any other suggestion? ←
15:37:06 <stain> text/prov-n was the original suggestion
Stian Soiland-Reyes: text/prov-n was the original suggestion ←
15:37:09 <khalidBelhajjame> +0 (either way is fine with me)
Khalid Belhajjame: +0 (either way is fine with me) ←
15:37:15 <Zakim> +Satya_Sahoo
Zakim IRC Bot: +Satya_Sahoo ←
15:37:20 <sandro> and text/prov seems to me, naively, to make sense.
Sandro Hawke: and text/prov seems to me, naively, to make sense. ←
15:37:31 <sandro> (but ignore me if you like)
Sandro Hawke: (but ignore me if you like) ←
15:37:45 <GK> (I'm squinting at the text around charset - I think it's OK, but I note that (IIRC) default all text/* content-types default to US-ASCII. That jars slightly with "The encoding is always UTF-8 [http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-n.html#bib-UTF-8]")
Graham Klyne: (I'm squinting at the text around charset - I think it's OK, but I note that (IIRC) default all text/* content-types default to US-ASCII. That jars slightly with "The encoding is always UTF-8 [http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-n.html#bib-UTF-8]") ←
15:37:47 <TomDN> @sandro: I like that one as well
Tom De Nies: @sandro: I like that one as well ←
15:37:47 <jun> pgroth: anyone wants to vote on prov-n?
Paul Groth: anyone wants to vote on prov-n? ←
15:37:50 <stain> I would do +1 on text/prov-n as well - so basically all my votes are 0..
Stian Soiland-Reyes: I would do +1 on text/prov-n as well - so basically all my votes are 0.. ←
15:37:52 <jcheney> I'd support text/prov or text/prov-n but not block other two...
James Cheney: I'd support text/prov or text/prov-n but not block other two... ←
15:38:03 <Luc> q+
Luc Moreau: q+ ←
15:38:29 <stain> @GK, what do Turtle say on this?
Stian Soiland-Reyes: @GK, what do Turtle say on this? ←
15:38:35 <pgroth> ack Luc
Paul Groth: ack Luc ←
15:38:36 <GK> I'll try and provide some wording next week.
Graham Klyne: I'll try and provide some wording next week. ←
15:38:45 <jun> Luc: would really like feedback from expertise.
Luc Moreau: would really like feedback from expertise. ←
15:39:02 <stain> "The media type of Turtle is text/turtle (pre-registration media type application/x-turtle should be accepted). The content encoding of Turtle content is always UTF-8. Charset parameters on the mime type are required until such time as the text/ media type tree permits UTF-8 to be sent without a charset parameter"
Stian Soiland-Reyes: "The media type of Turtle is text/turtle (pre-registration media type application/x-turtle should be accepted). The content encoding of Turtle content is always UTF-8. Charset parameters on the mime type are required until such time as the text/ media type tree permits UTF-8 to be sent without a charset parameter" ←
15:39:43 <stain> I agree on always UTF-8 as long as the wording requires encoding to be UTF-8.
Stian Soiland-Reyes: I agree on always UTF-8 as long as the wording requires encoding to be UTF-8. ←
15:39:51 <stain> We can say "The only supported encoding is UTF-8"
Stian Soiland-Reyes: We can say "The only supported encoding is UTF-8" ←
15:40:24 <jun> GK: some re-wording in some places might help
Graham Klyne: some re-wording in some places might help ←
15:40:54 <jun> Luc: maybe we can work on this together offline? it was copied from sparql or turtle? (can't hear it properly)
Luc Moreau: maybe we can work on this together offline? it was copied from sparql or turtle? (can't hear it properly) ←
15:41:17 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:41:21 <jun> GK: can help with this next week
Graham Klyne: can help with this next week ←
15:41:47 <pgroth> straw poll mimetype type text/prov-n
Paul Groth: straw poll mimetype type text/prov-n ←
15:41:48 <GK> I'm OK with text/prov too.
Graham Klyne: I'm OK with text/prov too. ←
15:41:48 <jun> pgroth: jcheney wanted to have a poll on the original
Paul Groth: jcheney wanted to have a poll on the original ←
15:41:51 <smiles> +0.5
Simon Miles: +0.5 ←
15:41:52 <tlebo> -1
Timothy Lebo: -1 ←
15:41:55 <TomDN> +1
Tom De Nies: +1 ←
15:41:56 <jcheney> +1
James Cheney: +1 ←
15:42:00 <SamCoppens> 0
Sam Coppens: 0 ←
15:42:00 <dgarijo> +0
Daniel Garijo: +0 ←
15:42:01 <GK> -1 to text/prov-n
Graham Klyne: -1 to text/prov-n ←
15:42:02 <jun> 0
0 ←
15:42:05 <stain> +1
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1 ←
15:42:05 <khalidBelhajjame> 0
15:42:12 <stephenc> 0
15:42:15 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
15:42:22 <zednik> -0.5
Stephan Zednik: -0.5 ←
15:42:42 <pgroth> proposed: mimetype is text/provenance-notation
PROPOSED: mimetype is text/provenance-notation ←
15:42:53 <stain> +1
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1 ←
15:42:54 <TomDN> +0
Tom De Nies: +0 ←
15:42:56 <tlebo> +1
Timothy Lebo: +1 ←
15:42:58 <GK> +1
Graham Klyne: +1 ←
15:42:58 <smiles> +1
Simon Miles: +1 ←
15:42:59 <dgarijo> +1
Daniel Garijo: +1 ←
15:42:59 <SamCoppens> +1
Sam Coppens: +1 ←
15:43:02 <stephenc> +1
Stephen Cresswell: +1 ←
15:43:02 <jcheney> 0
James Cheney: 0 ←
15:43:03 <jun> +1
+1 ←
15:43:05 <satya> +1
Satya Sahoo: +1 ←
15:43:10 <Paolo> +1
Paolo Missier: +1 ←
15:43:19 <zednik> +1
Stephan Zednik: +1 ←
15:43:21 <sandro> 0
Sandro Hawke: 0 ←
15:43:24 <stain> (going off-irc)
Stian Soiland-Reyes: (going off-irc) ←
15:43:36 <pgroth> accepted: mimetype is text/provenance-notation
RESOLVED: mimetype is text/provenance-notation ←
15:43:36 <Luc> and .provn as extension?
Luc Moreau: and .provn as extension? ←
15:43:45 <pgroth> proposed: extension is .provn
PROPOSED: extension is .provn ←
15:43:48 <smiles> +1
Simon Miles: +1 ←
15:43:55 <jun> +1
+1 ←
15:44:03 <SamCoppens> +1
Sam Coppens: +1 ←
15:44:05 <jun> stain: +1
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1 ←
15:44:14 <sandro> 0
Sandro Hawke: 0 ←
15:44:15 <khalidBelhajjame> +1
Khalid Belhajjame: +1 ←
15:44:17 <jcheney> +1
James Cheney: +1 ←
15:44:17 <GK> 0
Graham Klyne: 0 ←
15:44:18 <dgarijo> +1
Daniel Garijo: +1 ←
15:44:25 <TomDN> +0
Tom De Nies: +0 ←
15:44:31 <zednik> 0
Stephan Zednik: 0 ←
15:44:38 <satya> 0
Satya Sahoo: 0 ←
15:44:46 <tlebo> 0 (to avoid holding it up, .pn seemed cleaner and looks less like bad file contents)
Timothy Lebo: 0 (to avoid holding it up, .pn seemed cleaner and looks less like bad file contents) ←
15:45:04 <pgroth> accepted: extension of prov-n is .provn
RESOLVED: extension of prov-n is .provn ←
15:45:09 <TomDN> (just curious: are there any other 5 character extensions you know of?)
Tom De Nies: (just curious: are there any other 5 character extensions you know of?) ←
15:45:31 <jun> Luc: a vote on .pn too?
Luc Moreau: a vote on .pn too? ←
15:45:35 <pgroth> proposed: extension is .pn
PROPOSED: extension is .pn ←
15:45:40 <stainPhone> -1
Stian Soiland-Reyes: -1 ←
15:45:43 <smiles> 0
Simon Miles: 0 ←
15:45:48 <tlebo> +1
Timothy Lebo: +1 ←
15:45:49 <GK> 0
Graham Klyne: 0 ←
15:45:54 <jun> -1
-1 ←
15:45:55 <Paolo> 0
Paolo Missier: 0 ←
15:45:56 <TomDN> +0
Tom De Nies: +0 ←
15:45:57 <dgarijo> 0
Daniel Garijo: 0 ←
15:45:57 <jcheney> 0
James Cheney: 0 ←
15:45:58 <SamCoppens> 0
Sam Coppens: 0 ←
15:46:05 <sandro> 0
Sandro Hawke: 0 ←
15:46:08 <satya> 0
Satya Sahoo: 0 ←
15:46:10 <hook> 0
15:46:10 <khalidBelhajjame> 0
15:46:11 <tlebo> (.pn looks like a mistyped .png...)
Timothy Lebo: (.pn looks like a mistyped .png...) ←
15:46:21 <smiles> @TomDN you get .xhtml sometimes
Simon Miles: @TomDN you get .xhtml sometimes ←
15:46:33 <Luc> thanks
Luc Moreau: thanks ←
15:46:57 <pgroth> Topic: PROV Namespace
Summary: When dereferencing the prov namespace and requesting an RDF content-type, it was unclear what should be returned because the prov namespace is defined not only by prov-o but also by other notes such as prov-aq. (ISSUE-440) Two possible approaches were discussed. One was merging all the definitions defined by the various specs into one file, the other approach was to use owl:imports. Paul agreed to write up the two proposals and circulate for discussion on the mailing list.
<pgroth> Summary: When dereferencing the prov namespace and requesting an RDF content-type, it was unclear what should be returned because the prov namespace is defined not only by prov-o but also by other notes such as prov-aq. (ISSUE-440) Two possible approaches were discussed. One was merging all the definitions defined by the various specs into one file, the other approach was to use owl:imports. Paul agreed to write up the two proposals and circulate for discussion on the mailing list.
15:47:24 <dgarijo> @tlebo: I won't even tell you what does it looks like in spanish :)
Daniel Garijo: @tlebo: I won't even tell you what does it looks like in spanish :) ←
15:47:34 <jun> pgroth: paq defined some terms using the prov namespace
Paul Groth: paq defined some terms using the prov namespace ←
15:47:45 <tlebo> @dgarijo You're right, I don't want to know.
Timothy Lebo: @dgarijo You're right, I don't want to know. ←
15:47:56 <stainPhone> Solved by using slash rather than hash
Stian Soiland-Reyes: Solved by using slash rather than hash ←
15:48:05 <tlebo> @stian, yes.
Timothy Lebo: @stian, yes. ←
15:48:27 <stainPhone> That is the main motivation for slash
Stian Soiland-Reyes: That is the main motivation for slash ←
15:48:31 <jun> ... we want to get the owl definition for a term when using curl
... we want to get the owl definition for a term when using curl ←
15:49:03 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:49:07 <tlebo> @pgroth I hadn't thought of concatenating, I think worth considering.
Timothy Lebo: @pgroth I hadn't thought of concatenating, I think worth considering. ←
15:49:27 <jun> ... look for suggestions to solve the problem by keeping the namespace as it is
... look for suggestions to solve the problem by keeping the namespace as it is ←
15:50:09 <dgarijo> @tlebo: they are already included, right?
Daniel Garijo: @tlebo: they are already included, right? ←
15:50:41 <stainPhone> Namespace can resolve to owl that imports other owls, one for provo, one for note, one for dictionary..
Stian Soiland-Reyes: Namespace can resolve to owl that imports other owls, one for provo, one for note, one for dictionary.. ←
15:51:43 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
15:51:44 <Zakim> -??P14
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P14 ←
15:51:44 <Zakim> -pgroth
Zakim IRC Bot: -pgroth ←
15:51:49 <pgroth> can you fill in luc
Paul Groth: can you fill in luc ←
15:51:53 <Luc> yes
Luc Moreau: yes ←
15:52:07 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
15:52:08 <pgroth> back
Paul Groth: back ←
15:52:08 <stainPhone> Owl in provo spec part of rec, but not what is at namespace
Stian Soiland-Reyes: Owl in provo spec part of rec, but not what is at namespace ←
15:52:13 <Luc> ok
Luc Moreau: ok ←
15:52:19 <pgroth> Zakim, ??P9 is me
Paul Groth: Zakim, ??P9 is me ←
15:52:19 <Zakim> +pgroth; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +pgroth; got it ←
15:52:29 <jcheney> I've been dropped, have to go now anyway...
James Cheney: I've been dropped, have to go now anyway... ←
15:52:29 <Zakim> +??P10
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10 ←
15:52:32 <Zakim> - +44.131.467.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: - +44.131.467.aacc ←
15:52:44 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:53:08 <Luc> can someone reexplain this concatenation for me? thanks
Luc Moreau: can someone reexplain this concatenation for me? thanks ←
15:53:24 <stainPhone> +q
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +q ←
15:53:26 <GK> But at some point, the form *will* occur - I think.
Graham Klyne: But at some point, the fork *will* occur - I think. ←
15:53:36 <GK> s/form/fork/
15:54:04 <pgroth> q+
Paul Groth: q+ ←
15:54:11 <pgroth> ack stainPhone
Paul Groth: ack stainPhone ←
15:54:23 <Zakim> +??P14
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P14 ←
15:55:04 <jun> [ I don't quite understand the conversation. can someone else scribe for this part? thanks]
[ I don't quite understand the conversation. can someone else scribe for this part? thanks] ←
15:55:21 <tlebo> +1 to what Stian is suggesting, resolving the namespace simply returns some owl:imports
Timothy Lebo: +1 to what Stian is suggesting, resolving the namespace simply returns some owl:imports ←
15:55:29 <GK> We could add rdfs:comment that makes it clear the extra terms are not part of the PROV-O standard?
Graham Klyne: We could add rdfs:comment that makes it clear the extra terms are not part of the PROV-O standard? ←
15:55:31 <tlebo> +1 to @pgroth to avoiding renaming the namespace.
Timothy Lebo: +1 to @pgroth to avoiding renaming the namespace. ←
15:55:35 <sandro> stain: if we use a slash instead of a hash, then we could redirect flexibly
Stian Soiland-Reyes: if we use a slash instead of a hash, then we could redirect flexibly [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:56:02 <sandro> stain: when we decided on hash, we didnt habe these modules
Stian Soiland-Reyes: when we decided on hash, we didnt habe these modules [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:56:03 <satya> +1 @Stian
Satya Sahoo: +1 @Stian ←
15:56:15 <tlebo> @satya, which of stian's comments?
Timothy Lebo: @satya, which of stian's comments? ←
15:56:27 <GK> But the owl:imports won't be visible to non-OWL applications.
Graham Klyne: But the owl:imports won't be visible to non-OWL applications. ←
15:56:49 <stainPhone> Yes, breaks rdfs
Stian Soiland-Reyes: Yes, breaks rdfs ←
15:56:53 <tlebo> @pgroth can't we do both, and include a few prov assertions about how the concat was derived?
Timothy Lebo: @pgroth can't we do both, and include a few prov assertions about how the concat was derived? ←
15:57:07 <GK> Dogfood!
Graham Klyne: Dogfood! ←
15:57:42 <jun> pgroth: I can write up the 2 proposals and put onto the mailing list for discussions
Paul Groth: I can write up the 2 proposals and put onto the mailing list for discussions ←
15:57:43 <satya> slash instead of hash - fits with file system approach
Satya Sahoo: slash instead of hash - fits with file system approach ←
15:57:44 <tlebo> I think we can work a reasonable solution out of these two imports/concat approaches.
Timothy Lebo: I think we can work a reasonable solution out of these two imports/concat approaches. ←
15:58:11 <Zakim> -??P4
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P4 ←
15:58:12 <Luc> bye bye
Luc Moreau: bye bye ←
15:58:15 <Zakim> -tlebo
Zakim IRC Bot: -tlebo ←
15:58:15 <stainPhone> Redirect to a note which explains the diff modules
Stian Soiland-Reyes: Redirect to a note which explains the diff modules ←
15:58:15 <khalidBelhajjame> bye
Khalid Belhajjame: bye ←
15:58:17 <dgarijo> bye!
Daniel Garijo: bye! ←
15:58:18 <Zakim> -sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -sandro ←
15:58:19 <Zakim> -Satya_Sahoo
Zakim IRC Bot: -Satya_Sahoo ←
15:58:19 <SamCoppens> bye
Sam Coppens: bye ←
15:58:20 <Zakim> -Luc
Zakim IRC Bot: -Luc ←
15:58:22 <Zakim> -dgarijo
Zakim IRC Bot: -dgarijo ←
15:58:23 <TomDN> bye
Tom De Nies: bye ←
15:58:23 <Zakim> -??P29
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P29 ←
15:58:23 <Zakim> -jun
Zakim IRC Bot: -jun ←
15:58:25 <Zakim> -khalidBelhajjame
Zakim IRC Bot: -khalidBelhajjame ←
15:58:25 <Zakim> -??P10
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P10 ←
15:58:26 <Zakim> - +44.789.470.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: - +44.789.470.aadd ←
15:58:28 <Zakim> -TomDN
Zakim IRC Bot: -TomDN ←
15:58:46 <Zakim> -??P25
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P25 ←
15:58:49 <pgroth> rrsagent, set logs public
Paul Groth: rrsagent, set logs public ←
15:58:54 <Zakim> -??P14
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P14 ←
15:58:55 <pgroth> rrsagent, draft minutes
Paul Groth: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
15:58:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/05-prov-minutes.html pgroth
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/05-prov-minutes.html pgroth ←
15:59:00 <pgroth> trackbot, end telcon
Paul Groth: trackbot, end telcon ←
15:59:00 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees ←
15:59:00 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been pgroth, jun, sandro, +1.315.330.aaaa, tlebo, Luc, +1.818.731.aabb, +44.131.467.aacc, khalidBelhajjame, [IPcaller], TomDN, SamCoppens,
Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been pgroth, jun, sandro, +1.315.330.aaaa, tlebo, Luc, +1.818.731.aabb, +44.131.467.aacc, khalidBelhajjame, [IPcaller], TomDN, SamCoppens, ←
15:59:03 <Zakim> ... +44.789.470.aadd, dgarijo, GK, Satya_Sahoo
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +44.789.470.aadd, dgarijo, GK, Satya_Sahoo ←
15:59:08 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
15:59:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/05-prov-minutes.html trackbot
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/05-prov-minutes.html trackbot ←
15:59:09 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye ←
15:59:09 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items ←
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