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14:43:29 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 
14:43:29 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
14:43:30 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Working Group Teleconference
14:43:30 <trackbot> Date: 05 July 2012
14:43:41 <pgroth> Zakim, this will be PROV
14:43:41 <Zakim> ok, pgroth; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 17 minutes
14:43:52 <pgroth> Chair: Paul Groth
14:43:57 <pgroth> Scribe: Jun Zhao
14:44:12 <pgroth> rrsagent, make logs public
14:44:21 <pgroth> Regrets: Curt Tilmes
14:55:35 <Zakim> SW_(PROV)11:00AM has now started
14:55:42 <Zakim> +??P9
14:56:05 <pgroth> Zakim, ??P9 is me
14:56:05 <Zakim> +pgroth; got it
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14:58:46 <Zakim> +??P18
14:58:52 <jun> zakim, ??P18 is me
14:58:52 <Zakim> +jun; got it
14:59:02 <Zakim> +sandro
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14:59:48 <Zakim> +??P21
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15:00:12 <tlebo> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:00:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgroth, jun, sandro, ??P21, +1.315.330.aaaa
15:00:18 <tlebo> zakim, I am aaaa
15:00:27 <Zakim> +tlebo; got it
15:00:29 <Luc> zakim, who is here?
15:00:39 <jcheney> jcheney has joined #prov
15:00:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgroth, jun, sandro, ??P21, tlebo
15:00:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see jcheney, tlebo, Luc, stephenc, jun, Zakim, RRSAgent, pgroth, MacTed, sandro, trackbot, stain
15:00:56 <Zakim> +??P25
15:01:06 <Luc> zakim, ??P21 is me
15:01:09 <Zakim> +Luc; got it
15:01:09 <hook> hook has joined #prov
15:01:38 <Zakim> +??P29
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15:01:55 <Zakim> + +1.818.731.aabb
15:02:00 <pgroth> Topic: Admin
15:02:10 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2012-06-28
15:02:16 <Zakim> + +44.131.467.aacc
15:02:19 <pgroth> proposed: Minutes of the June 28, 2012 Telecon 
15:02:26 <jun> +1
15:02:26 <Zakim> +??P7
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15:02:43 <khalidBelhajjame> zakim, ??P7 is me
15:02:44 <Zakim> +khalidBelhajjame; got it
15:02:54 <tlebo> 0 (did not attend)
15:03:01 <jcheney> +1
15:03:04 <khalidBelhajjame> +1
15:03:15 <Zakim> +Ruben
15:03:27 <smiles> smiles has joined #prov
15:03:29 <pgroth> accepted: Minutes of the June 28, 2012 Telecon 
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15:03:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:03:42 <TomDN> Zakim, Ruben is me
15:03:42 <Zakim> +TomDN; got it
15:03:44 <pgroth> Day 1 http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2012-06-22
15:03:46 <SamCoppens> zakim, SamCoppens is with TomDN
15:03:46 <Zakim> +SamCoppens; got it
15:03:54 <pgroth> day 2 http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2012-06-23
15:04:03 <Zakim> +??P5
15:04:16 <Zakim> + +44.789.470.aadd
15:04:21 <pgroth> proposed: Minutes from F2F3
15:04:23 <dgarijo> Zakim, ??P5 is me
15:04:23 <Zakim> +dgarijo; got it
15:04:28 <stain> Zakim: +44.789.470.aadd is me
15:04:33 <jun> +0 (not there all the time)
15:04:37 <TomDN> +1
15:04:38 <khalidBelhajjame> +1
15:04:40 <jcheney> +1
15:04:47 <tlebo> +1
15:04:50 <smiles> 0
15:04:50 <SamCoppens> +0 (not there)
15:04:58 <dgarijo> +0 (I wasn't there the whole time)
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15:05:33 <pgroth> accepted: Minutes from F2F3
15:05:50 <Zakim> +??P4
15:06:25 <jun> ACTION-94: Ivan is still on holiday. we can do that later
15:06:25 <trackbot> ACTION-94 Check when we should do internationalization and how for PROV-N notes added
15:06:26 <Luc> +q
15:06:44 <pgroth> ack Luc
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15:07:13 <jun> Luc: is internationalization for just prov-n or all of them?
15:07:26 <jun> Sandro: for all of them. but we will do it one after another
15:07:28 <Luc> -q
15:07:49 <jun> Action 97 and 98 on Paulo
15:07:49 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 97
15:07:51 <sandro> sandro: they might want to review them all at once
15:08:08 <jun> Action 101 on Curt, will move to after LC
15:08:08 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 101
15:08:36 <pgroth> q?
15:08:38 <jun> Paul hasn't done his work yet
15:08:52 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/products/14
15:09:17 <stain> @Jun - you can use "... " as a prefix to say that it is continuation of last person you mentioned
15:09:17 <Zakim> +??P13
15:09:35 <GK> zakim, ??p13 is me
15:09:36 <Zakim> +GK; got it
15:09:37 <jun> ... created a cross-product document
15:09:52 <pgroth> Topic: PAQ
15:10:00 <jun> @stain, I know that. but I don't know how to avoid typing actions :)
15:10:44 <pgroth> q?
15:10:45 <jun> Paul: anyone intending for more feature request for PAQ. otherwise we will close the open call for new features
15:11:01 <tlebo> @paul, just my prov-pingbacks :-)
15:11:33 <jun> Paul: it's in the issue track. we might start to look at it next week. 
15:11:39 <pgroth> Topic: Finalizing reviews
15:11:50 <tlebo> @jun, tab will auto-complete user names for you. Try to use usernames instead of real names.
15:12:18 <jun> s/Paul/pgroth/
15:13:07 <jcheney> working on it
15:13:09 <TomDN> (I sent mine just before the telecon)
15:13:17 <jun> Luc: we received feedback from khalid and dgarijo, and jun, and jcheney maybe by tomorrow?
15:13:33 <jun> ... any other feedback?
15:13:37 <Zakim> +??P14
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15:14:07 <jun> pgroth: that's all that signed up for. mabye satya, but didn't commit to it
15:14:14 <jun> ... anyone to feedback by tomorrow?
15:14:44 <jun> >jc
15:14:46 <jun> >jc
15:15:03 <jun> Luc: go through feedback on Monday and hope to finish by next telcom
15:15:26 <khalidBelhajjame> I signed up but I haven't provided the feedback yet
15:15:29 <jun> Luc: feedback on prov-n; khalid signed up?
15:15:32 <khalidBelhajjame> will try to send iot tomorrow
15:15:51 <jcheney> also working on it
15:15:52 <jun> ... jcheney also signed up?
15:16:10 <TomDN> I had signed up for the primer, but havent done it yet. I could do prov-N instead?
15:16:29 <khalidBelhajjame> @Luc, thanks
15:16:35 <jun> ... work on the feedback on Wednesday and get ready for the review
15:16:38 <TomDN> ok :)
15:16:46 <stain> I can volunteer for anything needing reviewer
15:17:16 <khalidBelhajjame> that is good for me
15:17:20 <jun> Luc: feedback by Tuesday lunch time UK time, will be great
15:17:35 <jun> TomDN and stain also on prov-n
15:17:40 <pgroth> q?
15:18:12 <jun> tlebo: on prov-o. announced doc to review on tuesday
15:18:39 <jun> ... received feedback from luc and jun and one external review. will incorporate in the next couples of days
15:18:47 <jun> ... Monday will do
15:18:51 <pgroth> q?
15:19:04 <SamCoppens> I will review it also
15:19:08 <jun> pgroth: anyone else on prov-o?
15:19:19 <hook> I can also review it.
15:19:34 <pgroth> q?
15:19:41 <jun> SamCoppens, hook, and pgroth will also review
15:20:20 <jun> smiles: on primer. we had a lot of reviews. most of them are small
15:20:38 <jun> .. will try to fix it tomorrow and get it ready by Saturday
15:20:45 <tlebo> @SamCoppens by monday good for you? (Friday would be good, too)
15:20:57 <tlebo> @hook, same as to @SamCoppens 
15:21:32 <jun> pgroth: we will keep primer open to be adjusted according to other docs
15:21:43 <SamCoppens> @tlebo sure, that is fine
15:21:53 <hook> by Monday for me.
15:22:02 <tlebo> @SamCoppens @hook thanks!
15:22:19 <jun> jcheney: on prov-constraints. presumed to be ready for review by 19 July. not ready for review now
15:22:44 <TomDN> I'm working through the emails. Hope to catch up soon and provide input
15:23:08 <jun> ... discussed over emails about what to be done. but not totally converged yet. will have time next week to work together with Luc and Paolo 
15:23:30 <jun> ... aiming for the end of the july
15:23:57 <pgroth> q?
15:24:30 <pgroth> Topic: Last Call Vote
15:25:01 <jun> pgroth: we will vote on releasing prov-dm, prov-n, and prov-o for last call in the next telcom
15:25:15 <jun> ... please express your opinions on the mailing list if you can't make to the call
15:25:43 <jun> ... would be nice to know well in advance if there are any outstanding issues to block the release for LC
15:25:51 <pgroth> q?
15:26:18 <jun> Luc: any feedback, any concern at any time before the vote are welcome
15:26:22 <pgroth> q?
15:26:30 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-N Media Type Application
15:26:46 <Luc> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-n.html#media-type
15:27:46 <stain> q+ Why not .provn as suggested file extension?
15:27:49 <jun> Luc: we have to go through the media types before the LC
15:28:02 <stain> +q to suggest .provn as suggested file extension?
15:28:06 <GK> q+ to suggest that the registered media type should be something like text/provenance rarther than text/prov-n
15:28:14 <jun> ... there is a draft suggestion in the above link. and look for feedback to text/prov-n
15:28:34 <stain> @GK, but it's PROV-N - not any odd provenance text..
15:28:38 <tlebo> @gk, that's a bit broad, no?
15:28:43 <stain> GK has expertise
15:28:48 <pgroth> q?
15:28:57 <pgroth> ack stain 
15:28:57 <Zakim> stain, you wanted to suggest .provn as suggested file extension?
15:29:14 <jun> stain: your suggestions generally look good
15:29:24 <tlebo> stian: .provn ?
15:29:30 <TomDN> @gk: we considered both text/prov-n and text/prov at f2f3. (don't recall why we chose prov-n exactly)
15:29:31 <pgroth> ack GK 
15:29:31 <Zakim> GK, you wanted to suggest that the registered media type should be something like text/provenance rarther than text/prov-n
15:29:41 <stain> stian: .provn should be somewhat googleable rather than .pn
15:30:10 <pgroth> provenance-notation
15:30:22 <jun> GK: find text/provn less intuitive to general audience. text/provenance?
15:30:24 <tlebo> provenance-notation seems nice
15:30:24 <pgroth> q?
15:30:25 <stain> pgroth: text/provenance-notation reads well
15:30:37 <stain> @
15:30:48 <pgroth> q?
15:30:58 <TomDN> It is a bit long...
15:31:02 <tlebo> +1 provenance-notation (length is fine)
15:31:02 <pgroth> q?
15:31:03 <jun> pgroth: text/provenance-notation looks nice
15:31:05 <sandro> why not "prov-notation"
15:31:08 <jun> GK: length is not the problem
15:31:10 <sandro> since the thing is called "prov"
15:31:13 <smiles> agreed that provenance-notation is good
15:31:23 <tlebo> application/rdf+xml is "long" , and we get by...
15:31:26 <pgroth> i think GK
15:31:27 <khalidBelhajjame> prov-notation
15:31:31 <jun> sandro: how about text/prov ?
15:31:47 <jcheney> I asked "what about text/prov" at the f2f3 and people said no...
15:31:56 <sandro> sandro: how about text/prov-notation    since prov is the brand name
15:32:19 <stain> .. but it is 'prov' and not 'n' that is the big unknown
15:32:27 <sandro> (actually, I like text/prov, but I wasn't at the f2f so ignore me)
15:32:31 <TomDN> Non-specialist people didn't know what text/css was either in the beginning...
15:32:35 <pgroth> what about prov-provenance
15:32:37 <tlebo> why bother shortening it?
15:32:48 <tlebo> provenance-notation - tell people what it is :-)
15:32:52 <stain> or text/html or application/xml or image/png
15:33:04 <pgroth> the title of the document is PROV-N: The Provenance Notation
15:33:15 <TomDN> and they didn't make it text/cascading-stylesheet either.
15:33:23 <stain> so "Provenance Notation" would be quite googleable as well
15:33:29 <Luc> what about a straw pall on prov-notation and provenance-notation?
15:33:31 <jun> GK: provn might not tell people what this is about. we have to think this might be for people out of the w3c community
15:33:57 <jun> pgroth: we need this before the last call
15:34:24 <pgroth> straw poll: mimetype is text/provenance-notation
15:34:25 <stain> multiple votes allowed or first choice?
15:34:26 <jun> Luc: shall we run a poll
15:34:34 <SamCoppens> +1
15:34:41 <GK> +1
15:34:42 <tlebo> +1
15:34:43 <jun> +1
15:34:45 <stephenc> +1
15:34:46 <zednik> +1
15:34:47 <TomDN> +0 (not wild about it, but don't want to block anything either)
15:34:50 <jcheney> 0 (not sure)
15:34:51 <smiles> +1
15:34:51 <sandro> 0
15:34:57 <stain> +1
15:34:58 <tlebo> @stian, if you want something else, do a -1
15:35:05 <Paolo> +1
15:35:05 <khalidBelhajjame> +0 (don't mind either of the two options)
15:35:12 <jcheney> meh...
15:35:23 <dgarijo> +1
15:35:40 <hook> +0 (should be consistant across the brand?)
15:35:47 <pgroth> straw poll mimetype is text/prov-notation
15:35:55 <smiles> +1
15:35:56 <GK> +1
15:35:57 <jun> 0
15:35:57 <stain> +1
15:36:00 <dgarijo> +0
15:36:16 <Paolo> 0
15:36:17 <tlebo> +0 (better than text/prov-n, though)
15:36:18 <zednik> +0
15:36:19 <SamCoppens> 0
15:36:20 <sandro> +1
15:36:22 <jcheney> 0 (why abbreviate part?)
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15:36:56 <Luc> any other suggestion?
15:37:06 <stain> text/prov-n   was the original suggestion
15:37:09 <khalidBelhajjame> +0 (either way is fine with me)
15:37:15 <Zakim> +Satya_Sahoo
15:37:20 <sandro> and text/prov seems to me, naively, to make sense.
15:37:31 <sandro> (but ignore me if you like)
15:37:45 <GK> (I'm squinting at the text around charset - I think it's OK, but I note that (IIRC) default  all text/* content-types default to US-ASCII.  That jars slightly with "The encoding is always UTF-8 [http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-n.html#bib-UTF-8]")
15:37:47 <TomDN> @sandro: I like that one as well
15:37:47 <jun> pgroth: anyone wants to vote on prov-n?
15:37:50 <stain> I would do +1 on text/prov-n as well - so basically all my votes are 0.. 
15:37:52 <jcheney> I'd support text/prov or text/prov-n but not block other two...
15:38:03 <Luc> q+
15:38:29 <stain> @GK, what do Turtle say on this? 
15:38:35 <pgroth> ack Luc
15:38:36 <GK> I'll try and provide some wording next week.
15:38:45 <jun> Luc: would really like feedback from expertise. 
15:39:02 <stain> "The media type of Turtle is text/turtle (pre-registration media type application/x-turtle should be accepted). The content encoding of Turtle content is always UTF-8. Charset parameters on the mime type are required until such time as the text/ media type tree permits UTF-8 to be sent without a charset parameter"
15:39:43 <stain> I agree on always UTF-8 as long as the wording requires encoding to be UTF-8.
15:39:51 <stain> We can say "The only supported encoding is UTF-8"
15:40:24 <jun> GK: some re-wording in some places might help
15:40:54 <jun> Luc: maybe we can work on this together offline? it was copied from sparql or turtle? (can't hear it properly)
15:41:17 <pgroth> q?
15:41:21 <jun> GK: can help with this next week
15:41:47 <pgroth> straw poll mimetype type text/prov-n
15:41:48 <GK> I'm OK with text/prov too.
15:41:48 <jun> pgroth: jcheney wanted to have a poll on the original
15:41:51 <smiles> +0.5
15:41:52 <tlebo> -1
15:41:55 <TomDN> +1
15:41:56 <jcheney> +1
15:42:00 <SamCoppens> 0
15:42:00 <dgarijo> +0
15:42:01 <GK> -1 to text/prov-n
15:42:02 <jun> 0
15:42:05 <stain> +1
15:42:05 <khalidBelhajjame> 0
15:42:12 <stephenc> 0
15:42:15 <sandro> +1
15:42:22 <zednik> -0.5
15:42:42 <pgroth> proposed: mimetype is text/provenance-notation
15:42:53 <stain> +1
15:42:54 <TomDN> +0
15:42:56 <tlebo> +1
15:42:58 <GK> +1
15:42:58 <smiles> +1
15:42:59 <dgarijo> +1
15:42:59 <SamCoppens> +1
15:43:02 <stephenc> +1
15:43:02 <jcheney> 0
15:43:03 <jun> +1
15:43:05 <satya> +1
15:43:10 <Paolo> +1
15:43:19 <zednik> +1
15:43:21 <sandro> 0
15:43:24 <stain> (going off-irc)
15:43:36 <pgroth> accepted: mimetype is text/provenance-notation
15:43:36 <Luc> and .provn as extension?
15:43:45 <pgroth> proposed: extension is .provn
15:43:48 <smiles> +1
15:43:55 <jun> +1
15:44:03 <SamCoppens> +1
15:44:05 <jun> stain: +1
15:44:14 <sandro> 0
15:44:15 <khalidBelhajjame> +1
15:44:17 <jcheney> +1
15:44:17 <GK> 0
15:44:18 <dgarijo> +1
15:44:25 <TomDN> +0
15:44:31 <zednik> 0
15:44:38 <satya> 0
15:44:46 <tlebo> 0 (to avoid holding it up, .pn seemed cleaner and looks less like bad file contents)
15:45:04 <pgroth> accepted: extension of prov-n is .provn
15:45:09 <TomDN> (just curious: are there any other 5 character extensions you know of?)
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15:45:31 <jun> Luc: a vote on .pn too?
15:45:35 <pgroth> proposed: extension is .pn
15:45:40 <stainPhone> -1
15:45:43 <smiles> 0
15:45:48 <tlebo> +1
15:45:49 <GK> 0
15:45:54 <jun> -1
15:45:55 <Paolo> 0
15:45:56 <TomDN> +0
15:45:57 <dgarijo> 0
15:45:57 <jcheney> 0
15:45:58 <SamCoppens> 0
15:46:05 <sandro> 0
15:46:08 <satya> 0
15:46:10 <hook> 0
15:46:10 <khalidBelhajjame> 0
15:46:11 <tlebo> (.pn looks like a mistyped .png...)
15:46:21 <smiles> @TomDN you get .xhtml sometimes
15:46:33 <Luc> thanks
15:46:57 <pgroth> Topic: PROV Namespace
15:47:24 <dgarijo> @tlebo: I won't even tell you what does it looks like in spanish :)
15:47:34 <jun> pgroth: paq defined some terms using the prov namespace
15:47:45 <tlebo> @dgarijo You're right, I don't want to know.
15:47:56 <stainPhone> Solved by using slash rather than hash
15:48:05 <tlebo> @stian, yes.
15:48:27 <stainPhone> That is the main motivation for slash
15:48:31 <jun> ... we want to get the owl definition for a term when using curl
15:49:03 <pgroth> q?
15:49:07 <tlebo> @pgroth I hadn't thought of concatenating, I think worth considering.
15:49:27 <jun> ... look for suggestions to solve the problem by keeping the namespace as it is
15:50:09 <dgarijo> @tlebo: they are already included, right?
15:50:41 <stainPhone> Namespace can resolve to owl that imports other owls, one for provo, one for note, one for dictionary..
15:51:43 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
15:51:44 <Zakim> -??P14
15:51:44 <Zakim> -pgroth
15:51:49 <pgroth> can you fill in luc
15:51:53 <Luc> yes
15:52:07 <Zakim> +??P9
15:52:08 <pgroth> back
15:52:08 <stainPhone> Owl in provo spec  part of rec, but not what is at namespace
15:52:13 <Luc> ok
15:52:19 <pgroth> Zakim, ??P9 is me
15:52:19 <Zakim> +pgroth; got it
15:52:29 <jcheney> I've been dropped, have to go now anyway...
15:52:29 <Zakim> +??P10
15:52:32 <Zakim> - +44.131.467.aacc
15:52:44 <pgroth> q?
15:53:08 <Luc> can someone reexplain this concatenation for me? thanks
15:53:24 <stainPhone> +q
15:53:26 <GK> But at some point, the form *will* occur - I think.
15:53:36 <GK> s/form/fork/
15:54:04 <pgroth> q+
15:54:11 <pgroth> ack stainPhone 
15:54:23 <Zakim> +??P14
15:55:04 <jun> [ I don't quite understand the conversation. can someone else scribe for this part? thanks]
15:55:21 <tlebo> +1 to what Stian is suggesting, resolving the namespace simply returns some owl:imports 
15:55:29 <GK> We could add rdfs:comment that makes it clear the extra terms are not part of the PROV-O standard?
15:55:31 <tlebo> +1 to @pgroth to avoiding renaming the namespace.
15:55:35 <sandro> stain: if we use a slash instead of a hash, then we could redirect flexibly
15:56:02 <sandro> stain: when we decided on hash, we didnt habe these modules
15:56:03 <satya> +1 @Stian
15:56:15 <tlebo> @satya, which of stian's comments?
15:56:27 <GK> But the owl:imports won't be visible to non-OWL applications.
15:56:49 <stainPhone> Yes, breaks rdfs
15:56:53 <tlebo> @pgroth can't we do both, and include a few prov assertions about how the concat was derived?
15:57:07 <GK> Dogfood!
15:57:42 <jun> pgroth: I can write up the 2 proposals and put onto the mailing list for discussions
15:57:43 <satya> slash instead of hash - fits with file system approach
15:57:44 <tlebo> I think we can work a reasonable solution out of these two imports/concat approaches.
15:58:11 <Zakim> -??P4
15:58:12 <Luc> bye bye
15:58:15 <Zakim> -tlebo
15:58:15 <stainPhone> Redirect to a note which explains the diff modules
15:58:15 <khalidBelhajjame> bye
15:58:17 <dgarijo> bye!
15:58:18 <Zakim> -sandro
15:58:19 <Zakim> -Satya_Sahoo
15:58:19 <SamCoppens> bye
15:58:20 <Zakim> -Luc
15:58:22 <Zakim> -dgarijo
15:58:23 <TomDN> bye
15:58:23 <SamCoppens> SamCoppens has left #prov
15:58:23 <Zakim> -??P29
15:58:23 <Zakim> -jun
15:58:25 <Zakim> -khalidBelhajjame
15:58:25 <Zakim> -??P10
15:58:26 <Zakim> - +44.789.470.aadd
15:58:28 <Zakim> -TomDN
15:58:46 <Zakim> -??P25
15:58:49 <pgroth> rrsagent, set logs public
15:58:54 <Zakim> -??P14
15:58:55 <pgroth> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:58:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/05-prov-minutes.html pgroth
15:59:00 <pgroth> trackbot, end telcon
15:59:00 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:59:00 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been pgroth, jun, sandro, +1.315.330.aaaa, tlebo, Luc, +1.818.731.aabb, +44.131.467.aacc, khalidBelhajjame, [IPcaller], TomDN, SamCoppens,
15:59:03 <Zakim> ... +44.789.470.aadd, dgarijo, GK, Satya_Sahoo
15:59:08 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:59:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/05-prov-minutes.html trackbot
15:59:09 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:59:09 <RRSAgent> I see no action items