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13:58:31 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/07/07-owl-irc
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14:00:10 <ewallace> ewallace has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/UFDTF/Agenda.2008.07.07
Evan Wallace: ewallace has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/UFDTF/Agenda.2008.07.07 ←
14:00:55 <IanH> Sorry I'm late; dialing now.
Ian Horrocks: Sorry I'm late; dialing now. ←
14:01:23 <IanH> zakim, this is owl
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14:01:23 <Zakim> ok, IanH; that matches SW_OWL()10:00AM
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14:01:40 <Zakim> +Evan_Wallace
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14:02:28 <IanH> How do I raise my hand?
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14:03:26 <Zakim> + +1.518.608.aaaa
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14:03:33 <Elisa> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UsingZakim
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14:04:03 <IanH> zakim, unmute me
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14:04:03 <Zakim> sorry, IanH, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
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14:04:14 <IanH> zakim, who is here?
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14:04:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see Elisa_Kendall, ??P8, Evan_Wallace, ??P9, Vipul_Kashyap, +1.518.608.aaaa
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14:04:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see dlm, IanH, Elisa, RRSAgent, Zakim, sandro, ewallace, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see dlm, IanH, Elisa, RRSAgent, Zakim, sandro, ewallace, trackbot ←
14:04:30 <IanH> zakim, ??P8 is me
Ian Horrocks: zakim, ??P8 is me ←
14:04:30 <Zakim> +IanH; got it
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14:04:35 <dlm> 518.608.aaaa is dlm
Deborah McGuinness: 518.608.aaaa is dlm ←
14:05:11 <IanH> who is here?
Ian Horrocks: who is here? ←
14:05:13 <Elisa> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html - documentation on Zakim
Elisa Kendall: http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html - documentation on Zakim ←
14:05:24 <ewallace> zakim, who is here?
Evan Wallace: zakim, who is here? ←
14:05:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see Elisa_Kendall, IanH, Evan_Wallace, ??P9, Vipul_Kashyap, +1.518.608.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Elisa_Kendall, IanH, Evan_Wallace, ??P9, Vipul_Kashyap, +1.518.608.aaaa ←
14:05:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see vipul, dlm, IanH, Elisa, RRSAgent, Zakim, sandro, ewallace, trackbot
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14:05:52 <IanH> zakim, aaaa is dlm
Ian Horrocks: zakim, aaaa is dlm ←
14:05:53 <Zakim> +dlm; got it
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14:05:58 <IanH> zakim, who is here?
Ian Horrocks: zakim, who is here? ←
14:05:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see Elisa_Kendall, IanH, Evan_Wallace, ??P9, Vipul_Kashyap, dlm
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Elisa_Kendall, IanH, Evan_Wallace, ??P9, Vipul_Kashyap, dlm ←
14:06:01 <Zakim> On IRC I see vipul, dlm, IanH, Elisa, RRSAgent, Zakim, sandro, ewallace, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see vipul, dlm, IanH, Elisa, RRSAgent, Zakim, sandro, ewallace, trackbot ←
14:06:34 <cgi-irc> christine
Scribe problem: the name 'cgi-irc' does not match any of the 51 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Christine Golbreich Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Diego Calvanese Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Héctor Pérez Urbina Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman Jeff Pan Jie Bao Joanne Luciano Jonathan Rees Kendall Clark Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Michael Schneider Michel Dumontier Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Haase Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'cgi-irc' does not match any of the 51 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Christine Golbreich Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Diego Calvanese Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Héctor Pérez Urbina Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman Jeff Pan Jie Bao Joanne Luciano Jonathan Rees Kendall Clark Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Michael Schneider Michel Dumontier Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Haase Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown cgi-irc: christine ←
14:06:34 <IanH> zakim, ??p9 is christine
Ian Horrocks: zakim, ??p9 is christine ←
14:06:34 <Zakim> +christine; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +christine; got it ←
14:06:43 <ewallace> zakim, who is here?
Evan Wallace: zakim, who is here? ←
14:06:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see Elisa_Kendall, IanH, Evan_Wallace, christine, Vipul_Kashyap, dlm
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Elisa_Kendall, IanH, Evan_Wallace, christine, Vipul_Kashyap, dlm ←
14:06:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see cgi-irc, vipul, dlm, IanH, Elisa, RRSAgent, Zakim, sandro, ewallace, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see cgi-irc, vipul, dlm, IanH, Elisa, RRSAgent, Zakim, sandro, ewallace, trackbot ←
14:07:41 <IanH> scribenik: IanH
Scribe problem: the name 'scribenik' does not match any of the 51 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Christine Golbreich Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Diego Calvanese Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Héctor Pérez Urbina Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman Jeff Pan Jie Bao Joanne Luciano Jonathan Rees Kendall Clark Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Michael Schneider Michel Dumontier Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Haase Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown scribenik: IanH [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←
14:08:05 <ewallace> scribenick: IanH
(Scribe set to Ian Horrocks)
14:08:20 <cgi-irc> christine on irc now
Scribe problem: the name 'cgi-irc' does not match any of the 51 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Christine Golbreich Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Diego Calvanese Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Héctor Pérez Urbina Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman Jeff Pan Jie Bao Joanne Luciano Jonathan Rees Kendall Clark Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Michael Schneider Michel Dumontier Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Haase Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'cgi-irc' does not match any of the 51 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Christine Golbreich Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Diego Calvanese Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Héctor Pérez Urbina Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman Jeff Pan Jie Bao Joanne Luciano Jonathan Rees Kendall Clark Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Michael Schneider Michel Dumontier Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Haase Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown cgi-irc: christine on irc now ←
14:09:21 <dlm> is the agenda for today linked from http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/UFDTF
Deborah McGuinness: is the agenda for today linked from http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/UFDTF ←
14:09:32 <IanH> approve previous minutes
approve previous minutes ←
14:09:44 <ewallace> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/UFDTF/Agenda.2008.07.07
Evan Wallace: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/UFDTF/Agenda.2008.07.07 ←
14:10:15 <IanH> topic: quick start
14:10:37 <IanH> Elisa: have made progress
Elisa Kendall: have made progress ←
14:10:51 <IanH> ... working on wiki as sandbox for outline and contents
... working on wiki as sandbox for outline and contents ←
14:11:04 <IanH> ... have a decent outline; wiki is challenging
... have a decent outline; wiki is challenging ←
14:11:27 <IanH> ... will take snapshots and post to WG site
... will take snapshots and post to WG site ←
14:11:48 <IanH> ... need functional syntax to be heavily linked and tagged
... need functional syntax to be heavily linked and tagged ←
14:12:13 <IanH> ... need to show boris what is needed to get all this right
... need to show boris what is needed to get all this right ←
14:12:22 <IanH> ... detail still not tagged
... detail still not tagged ←
14:12:33 <IanH> ... needed for quick links into document
... needed for quick links into document ←
14:12:51 <IanH> ... will probably copy something across next week
... will probably copy something across next week ←
14:13:06 <IanH> ... will spend time on regular teleconf discussing what is needed
... will spend time on regular teleconf discussing what is needed ←
14:13:17 <IanH> dlm: need constructors to be tagged
Deborah McGuinness: need constructors to be tagged ←
14:13:55 <IanH> IanH: anything to see now?
Ian Horrocks: anything to see now? ←
14:14:04 <IanH> Elisa: maybe webex next week
Elisa Kendall: maybe webex next week ←
14:14:32 <IanH> dlm: wiki is good way to work together
Deborah McGuinness: wiki is good way to work together ←
14:15:05 <IanH> Elisa: will set up webex session next week for UFDTF to take a look
Elisa Kendall: will set up webex session next week for UFDTF to take a look ←
14:15:23 <IanH> Elisa: or could provide RPI wiki logins
Elisa Kendall: or could provide RPI wiki logins ←
14:15:31 <IanH> dlm: RPI probably won't like it
Deborah McGuinness: RPI probably won't like it ←
14:16:04 <IanH> dlm: next monday is AAAI -- anyone going? silence!
Deborah McGuinness: next monday is AAAI -- anyone going? silence! ←
14:16:24 <IanH> Evan: when can you copy to WG wiki -- same isn't it?
Evan Wallace: when can you copy to WG wiki -- same isn't it? ←
14:16:35 <IanH> Elisa: not ready yet; hopefully next week.
Elisa Kendall: not ready yet; hopefully next week. ←
14:16:45 <IanH> dlm: following week might be safer
Deborah McGuinness: following week might be safer ←
14:16:50 <IanH> Evan: 21st?
Evan Wallace: 21st? ←
14:17:03 <IanH> Elisa: will be travelling but might be able to participate
Elisa Kendall: will be travelling but might be able to participate ←
14:18:12 <IanH> Evan: good to have something to look at prior to F2F
Evan Wallace: good to have something to look at prior to F2F ←
14:18:29 <IanH> Elisa: need for tagging
Elisa Kendall: need for tagging ←
14:18:46 <IanH> Evan: doc is already interesting and showing it would encourage tagging
Evan Wallace: doc is already interesting and showing it would encourage tagging ←
14:19:16 <IanH> Elisa: will copy over to WG wiki before the 21st
Elisa Kendall: will copy over to WG wiki before the 21st ←
14:21:02 <ewallace> IanH: we will have a UFDTF telecon on 21 July
Ian Horrocks: we will have a UFDTF telecon on 21 July [ Scribe Assist by Evan Wallace ] ←
14:21:50 <IanH> topic: UCR
14:22:16 <Zakim> -Elisa_Kendall
Zakim IRC Bot: -Elisa_Kendall ←
14:23:04 <IanH> vipul: 2 parts to discussion -- structure and collaborative editing
Vipul Kashyap: 2 parts to discussion -- structure and collaborative editing ←
14:23:27 <IanH> vipul: suggestions on using wiki?
Vipul Kashyap: suggestions on using wiki? ←
14:23:45 <IanH> Evan: has asked Sandro; need to break doc into pages
Evan Wallace: has asked Sandro; need to break doc into pages ←
14:24:02 <IanH> vipul: separate pages for each section and take locks when working on them
Vipul Kashyap: separate pages for each section and take locks when working on them ←
14:24:12 <IanH> christine: disagree for now
Christine Golbreich: disagree for now ←
14:24:27 <IanH> ... different sections are dependent
... different sections are dependent ←
14:24:37 <IanH> ... current work not finished
... current work not finished ←
14:24:48 <IanH> ... as mentioned in email
... as mentioned in email ←
14:25:06 <IanH> ... cannot put things only in feature section and not other parts
... cannot put things only in feature section and not other parts ←
14:25:12 <IanH> ... so suggest to wait
... so suggest to wait ←
14:25:38 <IanH> ... too difficult to change structure
... too difficult to change structure ←
14:25:57 <IanH> vipul: didn't intend to change structure -- sorry!
Vipul Kashyap: didn't intend to change structure -- sorry! ←
14:26:13 <IanH> vipul: are there dependencies between sections?
Vipul Kashyap: are there dependencies between sections? ←
14:26:22 <IanH> christine: working step by step
Christine Golbreich: working step by step ←
14:26:34 <IanH> ... still has use cases to input
... still has use cases to input ←
14:26:43 <IanH> ... needs to put these with features
... needs to put these with features ←
14:26:58 <IanH> vipul: I have a bunch of use cases that I would like to add
Vipul Kashyap: I have a bunch of use cases that I would like to add ←
14:27:21 <IanH> ... have to be careful not to clobber edits
... have to be careful not to clobber edits ←
14:27:28 <IanH> ... merging will be complex!
... merging will be complex! ←
14:28:31 <IanH> IanH: need to split or only christine can edit
Ian Horrocks: need to split or only christine can edit ←
14:28:41 <IanH> christine: only need a short time
Christine Golbreich: only need a short time ←
14:28:46 <ewallace> IanH: clearly having separate versions for each author won't work
Ian Horrocks: clearly having separate versions for each author won't work [ Scribe Assist by Evan Wallace ] ←
14:29:00 <IanH> ... there is some logic in structure
... there is some logic in structure ←
14:29:08 <IanH> ... can I have a bit more time?
... can I have a bit more time? ←
14:29:39 <IanH> vipul: How much time?
Vipul Kashyap: How much time? ←
14:30:07 <IanH> christine: hard to say; it's slow to work on wiki
Christine Golbreich: hard to say; it's slow to work on wiki ←
14:30:14 <IanH> ... goes on vacation on 12th
... goes on vacation on 12th ←
14:30:22 <IanH> vipul: needs some time
Vipul Kashyap: needs some time ←
14:30:31 <IanH> ... can you get done in a couple of days?
... can you get done in a couple of days? ←
14:32:34 <IanH> christine: wasn't any content before so I worked on it all
Christine Golbreich: wasn't any content before so I worked on it all ←
14:32:48 <IanH> vipul: assumed I was owner of section -- so confusion
Vipul Kashyap: assumed I was owner of section -- so confusion ←
14:33:03 <IanH> ... when can you make a decouplable structure?
... when can you make a decouplable structure? ←
14:34:42 <IanH> IanH: Thanks due to Christine
Ian Horrocks: Thanks due to Christine ←
14:34:59 <IanH> ... but splitting structure would now allow others to join in
... but splitting structure would now allow others to join in ←
14:35:17 <IanH> Christine: one or two days then split and I will work only on features.
Christine Golbreich: one or two days then split and I will work only on features. ←
14:35:34 <IanH> vipul: give us a time
Vipul Kashyap: give us a time ←
14:35:42 <IanH> Evan: maybe by Wednesday?
Evan Wallace: maybe by Wednesday? ←
14:36:13 <IanH> Christine: can't promise, but hope so
Christine Golbreich: can't promise, but hope so ←
14:36:22 <IanH> Evan: status email on Wednesday?
Evan Wallace: status email on Wednesday? ←
14:36:35 <IanH> Christine: OK - Wednesday by the latest
Christine Golbreich: OK - Wednesday by the latest ←
14:36:59 <IanH> ... sent an email detailing what is left to do
... sent an email detailing what is left to do ←
14:37:14 <IanH> ... has structured doc according to features
... has structured doc according to features ←
14:37:21 <IanH> ... do we want to change this structure?
... do we want to change this structure? ←
14:37:46 <IanH> ... cross references reflect this structure
... cross references reflect this structure ←
14:38:12 <IanH> vipul: use cases will refer to requirements and features and vice versa
Vipul Kashyap: use cases will refer to requirements and features and vice versa ←
14:38:44 <IanH> christine: scribe failure
Christine Golbreich: scribe failure ←
14:39:11 <IanH> detailed structure discussion not scribed...
detailed structure discussion not scribed... ←
14:45:43 <ewallace> link to Christine's page?
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Evan Wallace: link to Christine's page? ←
14:46:14 <cgi-irc> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/RequirementsDraft
Scribe problem: the name 'cgi-irc' does not match any of the 51 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Christine Golbreich Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Diego Calvanese Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Héctor Pérez Urbina Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman Jeff Pan Jie Bao Joanne Luciano Jonathan Rees Kendall Clark Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Michael Schneider Michel Dumontier Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Haase Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'cgi-irc' does not match any of the 51 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Christine Golbreich Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Diego Calvanese Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Héctor Pérez Urbina Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman Jeff Pan Jie Bao Joanne Luciano Jonathan Rees Kendall Clark Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Michael Schneider Michel Dumontier Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Haase Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown cgi-irc: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/RequirementsDraft ←
14:47:46 <vipul> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Who_Reads_Our_Documents
Vipul Kashyap: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Who_Reads_Our_Documents ←
14:47:53 <vipul> List of users and stakeholders
Vipul Kashyap: List of users and stakeholders ←
14:49:02 <ewallace> ah
Evan Wallace: ah ←
14:49:51 <ewallace> Christine has an order of use cases in mind
Evan Wallace: Christine has an order of use cases in mind ←
14:49:54 <IanH> Christine: the ordering of use cases is important
Christine Golbreich: the ordering of use cases is important ←
14:50:38 <IanH> vipul: depends on perspective
Vipul Kashyap: depends on perspective ←
14:50:49 <ewallace> ...based on some prioritization of the requirements the UCs call out
Evan Wallace: ...based on some prioritization of the requirements the UCs call out ←
14:51:43 <ewallace> IanH: It seems that we can reasonably postpone the decision on the ordering of the UCs
Ian Horrocks: It seems that we can reasonably postpone the decision on the ordering of the UCs [ Scribe Assist by Evan Wallace ] ←
14:52:12 <IanH> vipul: how about I create a new use case section with my ordering
Vipul Kashyap: how about I create a new use case section with my ordering ←
14:52:16 <IanH> ... see how that looks
... see how that looks ←
14:52:41 <IanH> dlm: would you pull in who reads our document use cases?
Deborah McGuinness: would you pull in who reads our document use cases? ←
14:53:39 <ewallace> IanH: the suggestion on the table is to add a new use case section for Vipul (and others)
Ian Horrocks: the suggestion on the table is to add a new use case section for Vipul (and others) [ Scribe Assist by Evan Wallace ] ←
14:54:00 <ewallace> to add use cases separate from Christine's section
Evan Wallace: to add use cases separate from Christine's section ←
14:55:33 <IanH> Christine: OK provided its possible to keep my ordering in the end!
Christine Golbreich: OK provided its possible to keep my ordering in the end! ←
14:55:47 <IanH> IanH: that is a discussion for later
Ian Horrocks: that is a discussion for later ←
14:57:09 <IanH> ... How about splitting structure now?
... How about splitting structure now? ←
14:58:16 <IanH> Christine: will you touch requirements?
Christine Golbreich: will you touch requirements? ←
14:58:25 <cgi-irc> yes
Scribe problem: the name 'cgi-irc' does not match any of the 51 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Christine Golbreich Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Diego Calvanese Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Héctor Pérez Urbina Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman Jeff Pan Jie Bao Joanne Luciano Jonathan Rees Kendall Clark Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Michael Schneider Michel Dumontier Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Haase Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
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Unknown cgi-irc: yes ←
14:59:27 <IanH> vipul: will you touch 3, 4 and 5?
Vipul Kashyap: will you touch 3, 4 and 5? ←
14:59:41 <IanH> Christine: I will touch all sections
Christine Golbreich: I will touch all sections ←
15:00:34 <IanH> ... I will finish by wednesday
... I will finish by wednesday ←
15:00:54 <IanH> ... from then I will work on features
... from then I will work on features ←
15:01:11 <IanH> vipul: after wednesday I will work on a new use cases section
Vipul Kashyap: after wednesday I will work on a new use cases section ←
15:01:47 <IanH> ... will create shell document after wednesday
... will create shell document after wednesday ←
15:02:00 <IanH> Evan: I will do shell after Wednesday
Evan Wallace: I will do shell after Wednesday ←
15:02:42 <IanH> dlm: will look over use cases when ready
Deborah McGuinness: will look over use cases when ready ←
15:04:00 <Zakim> -Vipul_Kashyap
Zakim IRC Bot: -Vipul_Kashyap ←
15:04:01 <Zakim> -Evan_Wallace
Zakim IRC Bot: -Evan_Wallace ←
15:04:04 <IanH> next meeting next week
next meeting next week ←
15:04:06 <Zakim> -dlm
Zakim IRC Bot: -dlm ←
15:04:08 <Zakim> -christine
Zakim IRC Bot: -christine ←
15:04:11 <Zakim> -IanH
Zakim IRC Bot: -IanH ←
15:04:13 <Zakim> SW_OWL()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_OWL()10:00AM has ended ←
15:04:15 <Zakim> Attendees were Elisa_Kendall, Evan_Wallace, Vipul_Kashyap, +1.518.608.aaaa, IanH, dlm, christine
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Elisa_Kendall, Evan_Wallace, Vipul_Kashyap, +1.518.608.aaaa, IanH, dlm, christine ←
15:04:31 <ewallace> rrsagent, draft minutes
Evan Wallace: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
15:04:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/07-owl-minutes.html ewallace
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/07-owl-minutes.html ewallace ←
15:04:45 <ewallace> rrsagent, make log world-readable
Evan Wallace: rrsagent, make log world-readable ←
15:04:57 <ewallace> rrsagent, make log public
Evan Wallace: rrsagent, make log public ←
15:05:26 <IanH> Thanks Evan!
Thanks Evan! ←
15:08:41 <IanH> Glad to help out, and good to see that things are really moving forward now
Glad to help out, and good to see that things are really moving forward now ←
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