14:06:00 <JohnArwe> zakim, who's here?
John Arwe: zakim, who's here? ←
14:06:00 <Zakim> sorry, JohnArwe, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, JohnArwe, I don't know what conference this is ←
14:06:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see JohnArwe, Ashok, MiguelAraCo, nmihindu, SteveS, betehess, TallTed, stevebattle11113, jmvanel, Yves, ericP, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see JohnArwe, Ashok, MiguelAraCo, nmihindu, SteveS, betehess, TallTed, stevebattle11113, jmvanel, Yves, ericP, trackbot ←
14:06:00 <JohnArwe> zakim, this is LDP
John Arwe: zakim, this is LDP ←
14:06:00 <Zakim> ok, JohnArwe; that matches SW_LDP()10:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, JohnArwe; that matches SW_LDP()10:00AM ←
14:06:00 <JohnArwe> zakim, who's here?
John Arwe: zakim, who's here? ←
14:06:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see JohnArwe, Ashok_Malhotra, Steve_Speicher, ??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see JohnArwe, Ashok_Malhotra, Steve_Speicher, ??P0 ←
14:06:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see JohnArwe, Ashok, MiguelAraCo, nmihindu, SteveS, betehess, TallTed, stevebattle11113, jmvanel, Yves, ericP, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see JohnArwe, Ashok, MiguelAraCo, nmihindu, SteveS, betehess, TallTed, stevebattle11113, jmvanel, Yves, ericP, trackbot ←
14:06:00 <SteveS> Zakim, Steve_Speicher is me
Steve Speicher: Zakim, Steve_Speicher is me ←
14:06:00 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveS; got it ←
14:06:00 <Ashok> chair: Ashok
14:06:00 <betehess> Zakim, code?
Alexandre Bertails: Zakim, code? ←
14:06:00 <Zakim> the conference code is 53794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), betehess
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 53794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), betehess ←
14:07:00 <nmihindu> Zakim, ??P0 is me
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Zakim, ??P0 is me ←
14:07:00 <Zakim> +nmihindu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +nmihindu; got it ←
14:07:00 <SteveS> Scribe: SteveS
(Scribe set to Steve Speicher)
<SteveS> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014.07.14
14:07:00 <Ashok> zakim, who is on the phone?
Ashok Malhotra: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:07:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see JohnArwe, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, nmihindu
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see JohnArwe, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, nmihindu ←
14:07:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:07:00 <nmihindu> Zakim, mute me
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Zakim, mute me ←
14:07:00 <Zakim> nmihindu should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: nmihindu should now be muted ←
14:07:00 <SteveS> Chair: Ashok
14:08:00 <betehess> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Alexandre
Alexandre Bertails: Zakim, [IPcaller] is Alexandre ←
14:08:00 <Zakim> +Alexandre; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Alexandre; got it ←
14:08:00 <SteveS> Topic: Minutes from 7-July-2014
14:08:00 <Ashok> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-07-07
Ashok Malhotra: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-07-07 ←
14:08:00 <SteveS> Ashok: any objections to approving?
Ashok Malhotra: any objections to approving? ←
14:08:00 <SteveS> (no objections heard)
(no objections heard) ←
<SteveS> resolved: Minutes of 7 July 2014 approved
RESOLVED: Minutes of 7 July 2014 approved ←
14:09:00 <SteveS> next meeting is July 21
next meeting is July 21 ←
14:09:00 <SteveS> Topic: Pending actions
14:09:00 <RRSAgent> jmvanel left the chat room. (Client closed connection)
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14:09:00 <JohnArwe> action-143?
14:09:00 <trackbot> action-143 -- Nandana Mihindukulasooriya to Validate the JSON-LD examples of the primer -- due 2014-07-12 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-143 -- Nandana Mihindukulasooriya to Validate the JSON-LD examples of the primer -- due 2014-07-12 -- OPEN ←
14:09:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/143
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/143 ←
14:09:00 <SteveS> s/Pending action/Pending review actions/
14:09:00 <nmihindu> ACTION-143 is onging
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: ACTION-143 is on-going ←
14:10:00 <JohnArwe> s/onging/on-going/
14:10:00 <SteveS> Topic: Paging spec
14:11:00 <SteveS> JohnArwe: everything is on the list, had a number of questions and Sandro only responded to a few of them.
John Arwe: everything is on the list, had a number of questions and Sandro only responded to a few of them. ←
14:11:00 <SteveS> Most important item, is the first one which states now a paging client MUST have page size request header in order to initiate it
Most important item, is the first one which states now a paging client MUST have page size request header in order to initiate it ←
14:12:00 <SteveS> Ashok: seems fine to me
Ashok Malhotra: seems fine to me ←
14:12:00 <SteveS> SteveS: agrees that this MUST is what we discussed
Steve Speicher: agrees that this MUST is what we discussed ←
14:13:00 <SteveS> JohnArwe: this is live in the editor's draft
John Arwe: this is live in the editor's draft ←
14:13:00 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
14:13:00 <SteveS> Ashok: I have a number of comments, that we can discuss
Ashok Malhotra: I have a number of comments, that we can discuss ←
14:14:00 <SteveS> JohnArwe: had responded
14:14:00 <JohnArwe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2014Jul/0025.html
John Arwe: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2014Jul/0025.html ←
14:15:00 <SteveS> (John and Ashok recap the email discussion)
(John and Ashok recap the email discussion) ←
14:16:00 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software ←
14:16:00 <SteveS> JohnArwe: it is stated that you must supply forward links (next) and may supply backward links (prev) but not as clearly stated
John Arwe: it is stated that you must supply forward links (next) and may supply backward links (prev) but not as clearly stated ←
14:16:00 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me ←
14:16:00 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +TallTed; got it ←
14:16:00 <JohnArwe> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/ldp-paging.html#ldpr-Paging
John Arwe: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/ldp-paging.html#ldpr-Paging ←
14:16:00 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
14:16:00 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted ←
14:17:00 <JohnArwe> 6.2.2.9 is where the link normative stmts start
John Arwe: 6.2.2.9 is where the link normative stmts start ←
14:18:00 <JohnArwe> 6.1 is non-normative
John Arwe: 6.1 is non-normative ←
14:19:00 <RRSAgent> jmvanel joined the chat room.
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14:19:00 <SteveS> JohnArwe: wanting to ensure normative sections are solid, then make a pass on the non-normative to catch up
John Arwe: wanting to ensure normative sections are solid, then make a pass on the non-normative to catch up ←
14:19:00 <RRSAgent> sandro joined the chat room.
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14:19:51 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-ldp-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-ldp-irc ←
14:20:09 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:20:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see JohnArwe, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, nmihindu (muted), Alexandre, Sandro, TallTed (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see JohnArwe, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, nmihindu (muted), Alexandre, Sandro, TallTed (muted) ←
14:20:29 <sandro> RRSAgent, make logs public
Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
14:20:34 <SteveS> Ashok: something about knowing when things change and etags, but found it a bit unclear ... unless you really know this stuff
Ashok Malhotra: something about knowing when things change and etags, but found it a bit unclear ... unless you really know this stuff ←
14:20:56 <sandro> It looks like no one invited RRSAgent. :-( Not sure what's happening in the meeting so far.
Sandro Hawke: It looks like no one invited RRSAgent. :-( Not sure what's happening in the meeting so far. ←
14:21:14 <SteveS> JohnArwe: have added some text to 6.2.2.7
John Arwe: have added some text to 6.2.2.7 ←
14:21:37 <SteveS> sandro, I thought I did…never got confirmation it happened, seemed slow
sandro, I thought I did…never got confirmation it happened, seemed slow ←
14:21:46 <sandro> :-(
Sandro Hawke: :-( ←
14:21:51 <JohnArwe> I manually invited zakim
John Arwe: I manually invited zakim ←
14:22:04 <Zakim> +Roger
Zakim IRC Bot: +Roger ←
14:22:04 <SteveS> sandro, we are reviewing http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2014Jul/0025.html
sandro, we are reviewing http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2014Jul/0025.html ←
14:22:33 <SteveS> Ashok: non-normative wording really helps
Ashok Malhotra: non-normative wording really helps ←
14:23:48 <SteveS> sandro: haven't had a chance to reread for last few weeks, but believe my technical concerns have been raised
Sandro Hawke: haven't had a chance to reread for last few weeks, but believe my technical concerns have been addressed ←
14:23:52 <JohnArwe> You will find the new "ldp paging clients must have page size in their requests" clause in the client section, sandro.
John Arwe: You will find the new "ldp paging clients must have page size in their requests" clause in the client section, sandro. ←
14:23:58 <SteveS> ... don't hold it up based on my review
... don't hold it up based on my review ←
14:24:19 <sandro> excellent, JohnArwe
Sandro Hawke: excellent, JohnArwe ←
14:24:20 <Ashok> zakim, who is on the phone?
Ashok Malhotra: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:24:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see JohnArwe, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, nmihindu (muted), Alexandre, Sandro, TallTed (muted), Roger
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see JohnArwe, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, nmihindu (muted), Alexandre, Sandro, TallTed (muted), Roger ←
14:24:22 <SteveS> Ashok: Is this ready for LC2?
Ashok Malhotra: Is this ready for LC2? ←
14:24:58 <sandro> s/concerns have been raised/concerns have been addressed/
14:26:16 <SteveS> SteveS: haven't had a chance to review, would like another week
Steve Speicher: haven't had a chance to review, would like another week ←
14:26:40 <SteveS> Ashok: let's plan on putting the proposal to go to LC2 on the 21st
Ashok Malhotra: let's plan on putting the proposal to go to LC2 on the 21st ←
14:27:18 <JohnArwe> 7.2.1 Each Linked Data Platform Paging Container MUST also be a conforming Linked Data Platform Container.
John Arwe: 7.2.1 Each Linked Data Platform Paging Container MUST also be a conforming Linked Data Platform Container. ←
14:27:47 <JohnArwe> in earlier email, I said "looks unneeded"... sandro responded that it looked superfluous to him as well.
John Arwe: in earlier email, I said "looks unneeded"... sandro responded that it looked superfluous to him as well. ←
14:27:50 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:27:50 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should no longer be muted ←
14:29:39 <SteveS> PROPOSAL: remove section 7.2.1 as it seems superfluous
PROPOSED: remove section 7.2.1 as it seems superfluous ←
14:30:46 <SteveS> +1
+1 ←
14:30:57 <Ashok> +1
Ashok Malhotra: +1 ←
14:30:57 <JohnArwe> +1
14:31:00 <betehess> +1
Alexandre Bertails: +1 ←
14:31:01 <nmihindu> +1
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +1 ←
14:31:01 <roger> +1
Roger Menday: +1 ←
14:31:03 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
14:31:38 <SteveS> RESOLUTION: remove section 7.2.1 as it seems superfluous
RESOLVED: remove section 7.2.1 as it seems superfluous ←
14:33:00 <SteveS> JohnArwe: will update the paging draft after this meeting and send notice to the WG to review in preparation for 21st
John Arwe: will update the paging draft after this meeting and send notice to the WG to review in preparation for 21st ←
14:33:06 <SteveS> Topic: Spec implementations
14:33:58 <Ashok> SteveS: Changes to test suite
Steve Speicher: Changes to test suite [ Scribe Assist by Ashok Malhotra ] ←
14:34:16 <SteveS> SteveS: received results from Eclipse Lyo and Apache Marmotta
Steve Speicher: received results from Eclipse Lyo and Apache Marmotta ←
14:34:52 <SteveS> SteveS: need to have results received so far regenerate this results
Steve Speicher: need to have results received so far regenerate this results ←
14:35:05 <SteveS> Reports at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/tests/reports/ldp.html
Reports at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/tests/reports/ldp.html ←
14:35:17 <SteveS> Topic: Primer
14:35:30 <nmihindu> we are fixing the JSON examples
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: we are fixing the JSON examples ←
14:35:54 <SteveS> roger: hope to have by next week
Roger Menday: hope to have by next week ←
14:35:55 <nmihindu> we will be ready for another draft probably next week
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: we will be ready for another draft probably next week ←
14:36:17 <SteveS> Topic: Access Control
14:36:42 <SteveS> Ashok: other than bblfish , TallTed and Ashok don’t feel like anyone else has reviewed
Ashok Malhotra: other than bblfish , TallTed and Ashok don’t feel like anyone else has reviewed ←
14:36:54 <SteveS> ... can we publish as FPWD?
... can we publish as FPWD? ←
14:37:23 <SteveS> ... hesitant if more have reviewed or commented on it
... hesitant if more have reviewed or commented on it ←
14:37:34 <SteveS> Ashok: Do people think we should publish it?
Ashok Malhotra: Do people think we should publish it? ←
14:37:46 <SteveS> TallTed: fine
Ted Thibodeau: fine ←
14:38:14 <SteveS> PROPOSAL: publish Access Control UC&R as FPWD
PROPOSED: publish Access Control UC&R as FPWD ←
14:38:32 <Ashok> +1
Ashok Malhotra: +1 ←
14:38:37 <SteveS> SteveS: +1
Steve Speicher: +1 ←
14:38:39 <roger> +1
Roger Menday: +1 ←
14:38:44 <betehess> +1 even if I hadn't had time to read it, FPWD will be the occasion :-)
Alexandre Bertails: +1 even if I hadn't had time to read it, FPWD will be the occasion :-) ←
14:39:04 <nmihindu> +0.9 didn't have a time to review it yet
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +0.9 didn't have a time to review it yet ←
14:39:09 <sandro> +0 havent looked at it :-(
Sandro Hawke: +0 havent looked at it :-( ←
14:39:31 <JohnArwe> +0 ala sandro
14:39:46 <SteveS> sandro: are any revisions planned?
Sandro Hawke: are any revisions planned? ←
14:40:15 <SteveS> sandro: saying we could just publish it as a NOTE, if we are not planning on changing it
Sandro Hawke: saying we could just publish it as a NOTE, if we are not planning on changing it ←
14:40:39 <SteveS> Ashok: if published as a NOTE, can we update it?
Ashok Malhotra: if published as a NOTE, can we update it? ←
14:40:53 <SteveS> sandro: yes, just as easy as FPWD
Sandro Hawke: yes, just as easy as FPWD ←
14:42:27 <SteveS> Ashok: withdrawal proposal and we’ll shoot for WG-NOTE instead, leaving another week for review
Ashok Malhotra: withdrawal proposal and we’ll shoot for WG-NOTE instead, leaving another week for review ←
14:42:49 <SteveS> Topic: BP&G
14:44:28 <SteveS> SteveS: based on list, appears it is ready for publication
Steve Speicher: based on list, appears it is ready for publication ←
14:44:39 <nmihindu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2014Jul/0032.html
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2014Jul/0032.html ←
14:44:57 <SteveS> Topic: 2NN
14:45:10 <SteveS> Ashok: no update received
Ashok Malhotra: no update received ←
14:45:19 <SteveS> Topic: LD Patch format
14:45:39 <SteveS> Draft added to Mercurial http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/ldpatch/ldpatch.html
Draft added to Mercurial http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/ldpatch/ldpatch.html ←
14:46:18 <SteveS> betehess: out there for review, might be good to plan for a formal review / walkthru of the document
Alexandre Bertails: out there for review, might be good to plan for a formal review / walkthru of the document ←
14:46:34 <SteveS> betehess: plan on about 10 minutes for review on the 21st
Alexandre Bertails: plan on about 10 minutes for review on the 21st ←
14:47:00 <SteveS> Ashok: thinks 10 may not be enough
Ashok Malhotra: thinks 10 may not be enough ←
14:47:05 <Ashok> ... maybe longer
Ashok Malhotra: ... maybe longer ←
14:47:13 <SteveS> betehess: will discuss with Arnaud and come up a plan
Alexandre Bertails: will discuss with Arnaud and come up a plan ←
14:47:25 <SteveS> Ashok: any other topics?
Ashok Malhotra: any other topics? ←
14:47:30 <SteveS> (hearing crickets)
(hearing crickets) ←
14:48:10 <SteveS> Ashok: meeting adjourned
Ashok Malhotra: meeting adjourned ←
14:48:57 <betehess> thanks Ashok for chairing
Alexandre Bertails: thanks Ashok for chairing ←
14:48:58 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
14:48:59 <Zakim> -SteveS
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveS ←
14:49:00 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ashok_Malhotra ←
14:49:01 <Zakim> -nmihindu
Zakim IRC Bot: -nmihindu ←
14:49:01 <Zakim> -TallTed
Zakim IRC Bot: -TallTed ←
14:49:02 <Zakim> -Roger
Zakim IRC Bot: -Roger ←
14:49:03 <Zakim> -Alexandre
Zakim IRC Bot: -Alexandre ←
14:49:12 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: -JohnArwe ←
14:49:13 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended ←
14:49:13 <Zakim> Attendees were JohnArwe, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, nmihindu, Alexandre, Sandro, TallTed, Roger
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were JohnArwe, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, nmihindu, Alexandre, Sandro, TallTed, Roger ←
<SteveS> Present: JohnArwe, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, nmihindu, Alexandre, Sandro, TallTed, Roger
14:49:37 <SteveS> rrsagent, create minutes
rrsagent, create minutes ←
14:49:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-ldp-minutes.html SteveS
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-ldp-minutes.html SteveS ←
14:49:49 <SteveS> rrsagent, publish minutes
rrsagent, publish minutes ←
14:49:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-ldp-minutes.html SteveS
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