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13:58:35 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
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13:58:35 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started
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13:58:36 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:58:36 <trackbot> Date: 07 July 2014
14:00:42 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:00:49 <Arnaud> zakim. ipcaller is me
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14:01:10 <Arnaud> zakim: ipcaller is me
14:01:21 <Arnaud> zakim, ipcaller is me
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14:01:21 <Zakim> +Arnaud; got it
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14:02:19 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
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14:02:28 <Zakim> +Steve_Speicher
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14:02:36 <Zakim> +Roger
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14:02:42 <SteveS> Zakim, Steve_Speicher is me
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14:02:42 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
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14:03:04 <Zakim> +ericP
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14:03:39 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:03:54 <betehess> Zakim, IPcaller is Alexandre
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14:03:54 <Zakim> +Alexandre; got it
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14:04:48 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
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14:04:58 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
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14:04:58 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
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14:05:04 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
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14:05:04 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
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14:05:22 <Zakim> +??P12
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14:05:31 <nmihindu> Zakim, P12 is me
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14:05:31 <Zakim> sorry, nmihindu, I do not recognize a party named 'P12'
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14:05:39 <nmihindu> Zakim, mute me
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14:05:39 <Zakim> sorry, nmihindu, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
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14:05:50 <ericP> Zakim, ??P12 is nmihindu
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Zakim, ??P12 is nmihindu ←
14:05:50 <Zakim> +nmihindu; got it
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14:06:01 <nmihindu> Zakim, mute me
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14:06:01 <Zakim> nmihindu should now be muted
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14:06:30 <roger> Scribe: Roger
(Scribe set to Roger Menday)
<roger> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014.07.07
<roger> chair: Arnaud
<roger> topic: Admin
<roger> Approval of minutes from last meeting
Approval of minutes from last meeting ←
14:06:31 <Zakim> +Sandro
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14:06:57 <Arnaud> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-06-30
Arnaud Le Hors: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-06-30 ←
<roger> resolved: Minutes of 30 June 2014 approved
RESOLVED: Minutes of 30 June 2014 approved ←
14:09:14 <roger> The next call will be next week.
The next call will be next week. ←
14:09:19 <roger> Topic: Tracking of Actions and Issues
14:09:26 <Zakim> +bblfish
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14:09:27 <roger> any open actions ?
any open actions ? ←
14:09:43 <bblfish> hi
Henry Story: hi ←
14:10:07 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
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14:10:07 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted
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14:11:16 <roger> Ashok welcomes Tailted to comment on the AccessControl document.
Ashok welcomes Tailted to comment on the AccessControl document. ←
14:11:20 <SteveS> Access Control use cases https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/AccessControl.html
Steve Speicher: Access Control use cases https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/AccessControl.html ←
14:13:15 <Zakim> +JohnArwe
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14:14:28 <roger> Action 83 has been closed.
14:14:28 <trackbot> Error finding '83'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/users>.
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14:14:44 <nmihindu> we had two issues reported against the primer (1) some issues with the JSON-LD examples (2) comments emailing list was incorrectly set to the WG only email list
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: we had two issues reported against the primer (1) some issues with the JSON-LD examples (2) comments emailing list was incorrectly set to the WG only email list ←
14:14:56 <JohnArwe> zakim, close action-83
John Arwe: zakim, close ACTION-83 ←
14:14:57 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close action-83', JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'close ACTION-83', JohnArwe ←
14:14:59 <roger> subTopic: Issue 99, regarding JSON-LD examples in the Primer
14:15:00 <Ashok> Action-83 has been closed
Ashok Malhotra: ACTION-83 has been closed ←
14:15:02 <nmihindu> Arnaud, is there any possibility that we can update the email in the published version?
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Arnaud, is there any possibility that we can update the email in the published version? ←
14:15:10 <nmihindu> If not, we can correct those issues and go for another quick draft
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: If not, we can correct those issues and go for another quick draft ←
14:15:14 <JohnArwe> trackbot, close action-83
John Arwe: trackbot, close ACTION-83 ←
14:15:14 <trackbot> Closed action-83.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-83. ←
14:15:42 <JohnArwe> issue-99?
14:15:42 <trackbot> issue-99 -- Validate the JSON-LD examples of the primer -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-99 -- Validate the JSON-LD examples of the primer -- raised ←
14:15:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/99
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/99 ←
14:15:54 <nmihindu> Arnaud, sure.
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Arnaud, sure. ←
14:16:04 <bblfish> action-83?
14:16:04 <trackbot> action-83 -- Roger Menday to Ensure ISSUE-62 is addressed in Primer or Best Practices & Guidelines doc -- due 2013-06-27 -- CLOSED
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-83 -- Roger Menday to Ensure ISSUE-62 is addressed in Primer or Best Practices & Guidelines doc -- due 2013-06-27 -- CLOSED ←
14:16:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/83
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/83 ←
14:16:56 <roger> is there a problem to fix the JSON-LD examples in Primer ?
is there a problem to fix the JSON-LD examples in Primer ? ←
14:17:21 <Zakim> +??P16
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14:17:31 <nmihindu> Arnaud, yes. Just one question. Can we update the comments email in the published version ?
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Arnaud, yes. Just one question. Can we update the comments email in the published version ? ←
14:18:26 <roger> Arnaud: propose to close issue 99 immediately, with yes yes ...
Arnaud Le Hors: propose to close ISSUE-99 immediately, with yes yes ... ←
<roger> resolved: close issue 99, answering "yes" and following up with action-143
RESOLVED: close ISSUE-99, answering "yes" and following up with ACTION-143 ←
14:18:28 <bblfish> hi
Henry Story: hi ←
14:18:35 <bblfish> q+
Henry Story: q+ ←
14:18:52 <Arnaud> ack bblfish
Arnaud Le Hors: ack bblfish ←
14:20:06 <roger> bblfish: suggest automatic turtle -> json-ld translator ...
Henry Story: suggest automatic turtle -> json-ld translator ... ←
14:19:32 <betehess> that's a lot of trouble because you need to provide a shape for the json...
Alexandre Bertails: that's a lot of trouble because you need to provide a shape for the json... ←
14:19:39 <nmihindu> bblfish, yes. But the automatic generation is really bulcky
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: bblfish, yes. But the automatic generation is really bulcky ←
14:20:03 <JohnArwe> you'd also be dependent on it working in the viewer's favorite browser (version) - bane of all web apps
John Arwe: you'd also be dependent on it working in the viewer's favorite browser (version) - bane of all web apps ←
14:20:52 <nmihindu> ericp, is there any possibility that we can update the email in the published version?
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: ericp, is there any possibility that we can update the email in the published version? ←
14:21:37 <roger> primer was published, but with the incorrect email for comments. would like to change that ...
primer was published, but with the incorrect email for comments. would like to change that ... ←
14:23:01 <nmihindu> ericP, if we have to publish a new version please give us a heads up. May be we can fix the JSON examples before that too.
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: ericP, if we have to publish a new version please give us a heads up. May be we can fix the JSON examples before that too. ←
14:22:36 <roger> Topic: Paging
14:23:24 <roger> Arnaud: have resolutions from last week been integrated in to Paging spec ?
Arnaud Le Hors: have resolutions from last week been integrated in to Paging spec ? ←
14:24:56 <roger> JohnArwe: not quite ... will do it this week.
John Arwe: not quite ... will do it this week. ←
14:26:32 <roger> Arnaud: request everyone to review the Paging spec once John has updated it.
Arnaud Le Hors: request everyone to review the Paging spec once John has updated it. ←
14:26:54 <roger> ... and would like to make a rapid progress with that document into Last Call
... and would like to make a rapid progress with that document into Last Call ←
14:27:00 <SteveS> I will take another hard pass through paging as well, looks like I might have time this week or next
Steve Speicher: I will take another hard pass through paging as well, looks like I might have time this week or next ←
14:28:06 <roger> Topic: LDP spec implementation
<roger> Arnaud: Any progress reports about Implementations ?
Arnaud Le Hors: Any progress reports about Implementations ? ←
14:28:30 <roger> SteveS: only received impl reports about 1 impl
Steve Speicher: only received impl reports about 1 impl ←
14:28:54 <roger> ... but, there are 2 or 3 other ones in the pipeline ...
... but, there are 2 or 3 other ones in the pipeline ... ←
14:29:10 <roger> .... but, these are not quite ready yet.
.... but, these are not quite ready yet. ←
14:29:48 <nmihindu> Basically for the reasons mentioned by SteveS
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Basically for the reasons mentioned by SteveS ←
14:30:02 <bblfish> I am getting back into programming, so I should be able to get this done.
Henry Story: I am getting back into programming, so I should be able to get this done. ←
14:30:35 <nmihindu> we are in the middle of the implementation and would like to submit the report when we are done
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: we are in the middle of the implementation and would like to submit the report when we are done ←
14:30:48 <nmihindu> we will not implement IC for the moment
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: we will not implement IC for the moment ←
14:31:58 <SteveS> roger, have you used the test suite and plan to send an impl report?
Steve Speicher: roger, have you used the test suite and plan to send an impl report? ←
14:32:30 <roger> unless the IC is implemented, we might have to lose it from the spec
unless the IC is implemented, we might have to lose it from the spec ←
14:32:59 <bblfish> Ok, I can have a look at what needs to be done to implement it
Henry Story: Ok, I can have a look at what needs to be done to implement it ←
14:34:23 <nmihindu> Arnaud, yes. we didn't really have use cases for IC,
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Arnaud, yes. we didn't really have use cases for IC, ←
14:34:29 <bblfish> I am a developer and I understand http range-14
Henry Story: I am a developer and I understand http range-14 ←
14:34:39 <nmihindu> in LDP4j
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: in LDP4j ←
14:35:25 <roger> Topic: Test cases
14:36:26 <roger> SteveS: there are some new tests which have been proposed by the Madrid team recently
Steve Speicher: there are some new tests which have been proposed by the Madrid team recently ←
14:37:10 <roger> Arnaud: please provide feedback about the tests ...
Arnaud Le Hors: please provide feedback about the tests ... ←
14:37:19 <roger> Topic: Access Control
14:37:28 <roger> Arnaud: Ashok has moved the document into Mercurial
Arnaud Le Hors: Ashok has moved the document into Mercurial ←
14:37:34 <roger> ... don't edit the wiki anymore
... don't edit the wiki anymore ←
14:37:46 <SteveS> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/AccessControl.html
Steve Speicher: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/AccessControl.html ←
14:38:54 <roger> ... ashok, please add a link to the wiki page to the new address
... ashok, please add a link to the wiki page to the new address ←
14:39:02 <roger> Topic: BP&G
14:39:18 <roger> Cody not on call ...
Cody not on call ... ←
14:39:29 <roger> Topic: 209
14:40:09 <Zakim> -Alexandre
Zakim IRC Bot: -Alexandre ←
14:40:44 <roger> ericP: it is out as a draft and has some comments
Eric Prud'hommeaux: it is out as a draft and has some comments ←
14:41:30 <roger> request to ericp to send link for the mailing list archive ...
request to ericp to send link for the mailing list archive ... ←
14:41:38 <roger> ... where the 209 discussion is going on
... where the 209 discussion is going on ←
14:41:54 <Zakim> + +1.857.928.aaaa
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14:43:00 <betehess> Zakim, aaaa is Alexandre
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14:43:00 <Zakim> +Alexandre; got it
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14:43:03 <JohnArwe> zakim, aaaa is betehess
John Arwe: zakim, aaaa is betehess ←
14:43:03 <Zakim> sorry, JohnArwe, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, JohnArwe, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa' ←
14:43:30 <Zakim> -Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud ←
14:43:53 <Arnaud> sorry, call dropped, calling back
Arnaud Le Hors: sorry, call dropped, calling back ←
14:44:22 <Arnaud> well, trying...
Arnaud Le Hors: well, trying... ←
14:45:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:45:42 <Arnaud> zakim, ipcaller is me
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
14:45:42 <Zakim> +Arnaud; got it
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14:46:13 <roger> Topic: LD PATCH
14:47:33 <SteveS> What is the right link again? This one right? http://ld-specs.github.io/ld-patch/
Steve Speicher: What is the right link again? This one right? http://ld-specs.github.io/ld-patch/ ←
14:48:20 <roger> Pierre-Antoine: it is waiting for review ...
Pierre-Antoine Champin: it is waiting for review ... ←
14:48:57 <betehess> the draft for LD Patch is at http://ld-specs.github.io/ld-patch/index.html -- Pierre-Antoine's version was tied to his implementation
Alexandre Bertails: the draft for LD Patch is at http://ld-specs.github.io/ld-patch/index.html -- Pierre-Antoine's version was tied to his implementation ←
14:48:57 <betehess> github repo is at https://github.com/ld-specs/ld-patch
Alexandre Bertails: github repo is at https://github.com/ld-specs/ld-patch ←
14:48:58 <betehess> the plan is to move it to dvcs.w3.org as soon as we are done with the operational semantics, which is almost there (just missing the full UpdateList semantics)
Alexandre Bertails: the plan is to move it to dvcs.w3.org as soon as we are done with the operational semantics, which is almost there (just missing the full UpdateList semantics) ←
14:48:58 <betehess> q+
Alexandre Bertails: q+ ←
14:49:30 <SteveS> Arnaud, the link in the agenda isn’t right then
Steve Speicher: Arnaud, the link in the agenda isn’t right then ←
14:49:44 <Arnaud> ack betehess
Arnaud Le Hors: ack betehess ←
14:50:58 <roger> SteveS, is there a test suite for LD-PATCH ? Betehess, yes, there is, and it can be contributed to the LDP testsuite.
SteveS, is there a test suite for LD-PATCH ? Betehess, yes, there is, and it can be contributed to the LDP testsuite. ←
14:52:13 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
14:52:19 <Zakim> -SteveS
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveS ←
14:52:22 <Zakim> -Roger
Zakim IRC Bot: -Roger ←
14:52:24 <Zakim> -bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: -bblfish ←
14:52:25 <Zakim> -Alexandre
Zakim IRC Bot: -Alexandre ←
14:52:26 <betehess> in my case, I NEED something complete and close to the spec being written :-)
Alexandre Bertails: in my case, I NEED something complete and close to the spec being written :-) ←
14:52:27 <Zakim> -TallTed
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14:52:29 <Zakim> -ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericP ←
14:52:30 <Zakim> -??P0
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14:52:31 <Zakim> -Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud ←
14:52:32 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
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14:54:06 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: -JohnArwe ←
<roger> present: Sandro, SteveS, Roger, bblfish, Alexandre, TallTed, ericP, Arnaud, Ashok_Malhotra, JohnArwe, stevebattle
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