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Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 12 December 2013

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20131212
Seen
Bernadette Hyland, Dave Reynolds, Deirdre Lee, Fadi Maali, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, Joao Almeida, John Erickson, Makx Dekkers, Phil Archer, Richard Cyganiak, Sandro Hawke, Sarven Capadisli, Tina Gheen
Chair
Hadley Beeman
Scribe
Phil Archer
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions

None.

Topics
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14:59:51 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
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14:59:51 <trackbot> Date: 12 December 2013
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15:01:55 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, [IPcaller] is me

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15:02:06 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> now I managed to get ni

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15:02:12 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> hello

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15:02:26 <olyerickson> zakim, thank you.

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15:02:27 <Zakim> you are very welcome, olyerickson

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15:02:32 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?

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15:02:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, csarven, bhyland, PhilA, cygri, [IPcaller.a], olyerickson, Sandro, JoaoPauloAlmeida

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15:02:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see deirdrelee, gatemezi, cygri, olyerickson, Zakim, PhilA, RRSAgent, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa, JoaoPauloAlmeida, csarven, TallTed, bhyland, sandro, trackbot

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15:02:39 <PhilA> zakim, mute me

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15:02:50 <HadleyBeeman> HadleyBeeman has changed the topic to: agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20131212

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15:04:35 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

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15:04:52 <Zakim> +[LC]

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15:04:57 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> is anyone speaking?

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15:05:16 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, HadleyBeeman.

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15:05:24 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, HadleyBeeman.

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15:05:25 <bhyland> yes

Bernadette Hyland: yes

15:05:27 <olyerickson> yes

John Erickson: yes

15:05:34 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> now I can hear

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15:05:47 <PhilA> scribe: PhilA

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15:06:06 <PhilA> topic: Last week's minutes

1. Last week's minutes

15:06:08 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-12-05

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-12-05

15:06:12 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

15:06:13 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

15:06:14 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

15:06:17 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

15:06:19 <DaveReynolds1> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1

15:06:20 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Propose to accept

Hadley Beeman: Propose to accept

15:06:23 <fadmaa> +1

Fadi Maali: +1

15:06:33 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So accepted

Hadley Beeman: So accepted

15:06:48 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

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15:06:50 <gatemezi> s/calll/call

Ghislain Atemezing: s/calll/call (warning: replacement failed)

15:06:56 <PhilA> Topic: Best Practices

2. Best Practices

15:07:21 <PhilA> bhyland: I'm working through comments. Prefer to go at end of the agenda as I need to fix an error. I;ve been making micro changes this morning

Bernadette Hyland: I'm working through comments. Prefer to go at end of the agenda as I need to fix an error. I;ve been making micro changes this morning

15:07:51 <PhilA> bhyland: Takes 5 minutes to fix whatever is broken

Bernadette Hyland: Takes 5 minutes to fix whatever is broken

15:07:55 <PhilA> agenda?

agenda?

15:08:20 <PhilA> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20131212
15:08:29 <PhilA> chair: HadleyBeeman
15:09:12 <PhilA> bhyland: Maybe we should close some actions?

Bernadette Hyland: Maybe we should close some actions?

15:09:20 <gatemezi> zakim, who is here?

Ghislain Atemezing: zakim, who is here?

15:09:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see csarven, bhyland, PhilA, cygri, olyerickson, Sandro, JoaoPauloAlmeida, fadmaa (muted), PhilA.a, [LC], DaveReynolds1, HadleyBeeman

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15:09:23 <Zakim> On IRC I see tinagheen, HadleyBeeman, DaveReynolds1, deirdrelee, gatemezi, cygri, olyerickson, Zakim, PhilA, RRSAgent, fadmaa, JoaoPauloAlmeida, csarven, TallTed, bhyland, sandro,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see tinagheen, HadleyBeeman, DaveReynolds1, deirdrelee, gatemezi, cygri, olyerickson, Zakim, PhilA, RRSAgent, fadmaa, JoaoPauloAlmeida, csarven, TallTed, bhyland, sandro,

15:09:23 <Zakim> ... trackbot

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15:09:33 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me

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15:10:09 <PhilA> bhyland: The status is - lots of editors and Phil have been touching the doc

Bernadette Hyland: The status is - lots of editors and Phil have been touching the doc

15:10:19 <PhilA> ... lots of feedback and trying to get that all sorted

... lots of feedback and trying to get that all sorted

15:10:36 <PhilA> ... trying to make it consistent throughout

... trying to make it consistent throughout

15:11:09 <PhilA> ... I'll go either way. I'd like to finish my edits, but I'd like to add more of the feedback which is mostly references, not substantive

... I'll go either way. I'd like to finish my edits, but I'd like to add more of the feedback which is mostly references, not substantive

15:11:25 <PhilA> bhyland: I'm not going to get it finished today

Bernadette Hyland: I do aim to finish it today

15:11:45 <PhilA> bhyland: I think I'm the last one to touch it

Bernadette Hyland: I think I'm the last one to touch it

15:12:07 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We do have everyone together and this is the last time so we need to make our decisions today

Hadley Beeman: We do have everyone together and this is the last time so we need to make our decisions today

15:12:08 <sandro> q?

Sandro Hawke: q?

15:12:11 <bhyland> s/I'm not going to get it finished today/I do aim to finish it today
15:12:14 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

15:12:18 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Those who have contributed comments...

Hadley Beeman: Those who have contributed comments...

15:12:34 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Are you happy to push this through as it is or do you have additional concerns

Hadley Beeman: Are you happy to push this through as it is or do you have additional concerns

15:12:46 <PhilA> bhyland: I do want to get it done today

Bernadette Hyland: I do want to get it done today

15:12:49 <PhilA> ack sandro

ack sandro

15:12:49 <gatemezi> I don't see why we can not finish the doc today

Ghislain Atemezing: I don't see why we can not finish the doc today

15:13:01 <bhyland> +1 Ghislain

Bernadette Hyland: +1 Ghislain

15:13:02 <PhilA> sandro: Is there a reason why we can't have 1 more meeting this time next week?

Sandro Hawke: Is there a reason why we can't have 1 more meeting this time next week?

15:13:06 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> it would be best

Joao Almeida: it would be best

15:13:19 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Not procedurally - we told everyone we wouldn't, that's all

Hadley Beeman: Not procedurally - we told everyone we wouldn't, that's all

15:13:34 <PhilA> sandro: Normally one week's notice is OK

Sandro Hawke: Normally one week's notice is OK

15:13:39 <olyerickson> I'm amenable to a call next week

John Erickson: I'm amenable to a call next week

15:13:54 <PhilA> sandro: we wouldn't get the publication done by the end of the year but we could have a call

Sandro Hawke: we wouldn't get the publication done by the end of the year but we could have a call

15:14:10 <PhilA> sandro: The reason for pushing this is that it's clear that the doc is still in flux

Sandro Hawke: The reason for pushing this is that it's clear that the doc is still in flux

15:14:24 <bhyland> Propose -  BP editors complete & notify the WG to review.  Have the group review & meet one more time 12/19.

Bernadette Hyland: Propose - BP editors complete & notify the WG to review. Have the group review & meet one more time 12/19.

15:14:31 <PhilA> sandro: There are lots of little things. If the pace keeps up, then we're good to go for next week

Sandro Hawke: There are lots of little things. If the pace keeps up, then we're good to go for next week

15:14:43 <PhilA> bhyland: People seem to agree that it's important and needs doing

Bernadette Hyland: People seem to agree that it's important and needs doing

15:14:51 <olyerickson> I agree with bhyland's point to leverage current leverage of attention

John Erickson: I agree with bhyland's point to leverage current leverage of attention

15:14:56 <DaveReynolds1> FWIW I would probably not make next Thursday, competing meeting

Dave Reynolds: FWIW I would probably not make next Thursday, competing meeting

15:15:10 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: In my mind it depends on whether we need a discussion.

Hadley Beeman: In my mind it depends on whether we need a discussion.

15:15:18 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Happy to call for vote by e-mail

Hadley Beeman: Happy to call for vote by e-mail

15:15:42 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: we tend to get most out of our meetings when the editors have specific things that need asking

Hadley Beeman: we tend to get most out of our meetings when the editors have specific things that need asking

15:15:55 <gatemezi> +1 to HadleyBeeman suggestion

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to HadleyBeeman suggestion

15:16:02 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: If it's just incorporating comments and then a once over then a discussion may not be needed

Hadley Beeman: If it's just incorporating comments and then a once over then a discussion may not be needed

15:16:13 <Zakim> -cygri

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15:16:15 <olyerickson> However, I support the editors' decisions and I doubt we actually require a voice discussion

John Erickson: However, I support the editors' decisions and I doubt we actually require a voice discussion

15:16:18 <PhilA> bhyland: I have no problem with a decision by e-mail

Bernadette Hyland: I have no problem with a decision by e-mail

15:16:35 <PhilA> bhyland: And there hasn't been a lot of discussion on the calls

Bernadette Hyland: And there hasn't been a lot of discussion on the calls

15:16:53 <DaveReynolds1> q+

Dave Reynolds: q+

15:16:54 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Can I ask the people who have commented how they feel? Do you want more discussion?

Hadley Beeman: Can I ask the people who have commented how they feel? Do you want more discussion?

15:17:05 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I would be OK with an e-mail discussion

Joao Almeida: I would be OK with an e-mail discussion

15:17:06 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I understand what you need as an editor

Hadley Beeman: I understand what you need as an editor

15:17:15 <PhilA> ... but what do the commenters feel?

... but what do the commenters feel?

15:17:28 <Zakim> +??P13

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15:17:33 <cygri> zakim, ??P13 is me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, ??P13 is me

15:17:33 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

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15:17:50 <PhilA> sandro: I feel like a telecon is important. A call is better for saying "we're done"

Sandro Hawke: I feel like a telecon is important. A call is better for saying "we're done"

15:18:27 <olyerickson> note - I also sent in feedback 1-2 weeks ago (wrt RPI's revised/updated URI design principles), I haven't seen them but have assumed they are on the editors' "list"

John Erickson: note - I also sent in feedback 1-2 weeks ago (wrt RPI's revised/updated URI design principles), I haven't seen them but have assumed they are on the editors' "list"

15:19:10 <fadmaa> PhilA: another round of discussion in a telco next week seems better to me

Phil Archer: another round of discussion in a telco next week seems better to me [ Scribe Assist by Fadi Maali ]

15:20:03 <olyerickson> Did PhilA say "locked this time TOMORROW?"

John Erickson: Did PhilA say "locked this time TOMORROW?"

15:20:08 <HadleyBeeman> yes

Hadley Beeman: yes

15:20:10 <olyerickson> (please confirm)

John Erickson: (please confirm)

15:20:15 <olyerickson> (thanks)

John Erickson: (thanks)

15:20:30 <bhyland> I can say from the editors perspective, we *must* complete within this 24 hours

Bernadette Hyland: I can say from the editors perspective, we *must* complete within this 24 hours

15:20:47 <PhilA> olyerickson: I suggested we might lock it tomorrow

John Erickson: I suggested we might lock it tomorrow

15:20:53 <bhyland> Sandro: Remember we still have the pubrules processing that has to happen

Sandro Hawke: Remember we still have the pubrules processing that has to happen [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:21:19 <PhilA> olyerickson: I sent in a note about RPI's refined URI design principles

John Erickson: I sent in a note about RPI's refined URI design principles

15:21:47 <bhyland> @olyerickson -On my list to add now because they were taken out by another editor ...

Bernadette Hyland: @olyerickson -On my list to add now because they were taken out by another editor ...

15:21:55 <PhilA> olyerickson: that we've been working on with the Canadian gov on that. An older version of the doc referred to that but I see that's gone

John Erickson: that we've been working on with the Canadian gov on that. An older version of the doc referred to that but I see that's gone

15:21:58 <bhyland> q+

Bernadette Hyland: q+

15:22:20 <PhilA> olyerickson: I think that work would be worth referring to alongside Phil's (Actually the EC's) and the Ducth one

John Erickson: I think that work would be worth referring to alongside Phil's (Actually the EC's) and the Ducth one

15:22:29 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Thanks John

Hadley Beeman: Thanks John

15:22:29 <DaveReynolds1> ack me

Dave Reynolds: ack me

15:22:33 <PhilA> ack DaveReynolds1

ack DaveReynolds1

15:22:38 <sandro> btw here'

Sandro Hawke: btw here'

15:22:57 <sandro> btw here's a link to the unbroken document of an hour ago: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/cb6dde2928e7/bp/index.html

Sandro Hawke: btw here's a link to the unbroken document of an hour ago: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/cb6dde2928e7/bp/index.html

15:23:03 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: from the POV - if the doc is roughly the right shape and it's just pub rules. it seems reasonable to continue this round and do a vote by e-mail next week

Dave Reynolds: from the POV - if the doc is roughly the right shape and it's just pub rules. it seems reasonable to continue this round and do a vote by e-mail next week

15:23:08 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida

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15:23:25 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: My concern is that there might be a new section etc. that bhyland mentioned - that's more than editorial

Dave Reynolds: My concern is that there might be a new section etc. that bhyland mentioned - that's more than editorial

15:23:28 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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15:23:31 <gatemezi> @olyerickson: you mean this link "URI Design Principles: Creating Persistent URIs for Government Linked Data" <http://logd.tw.rpi.edu/instance-hub-uri-design> ?

Ghislain Atemezing: @olyerickson: you mean this link "URI Design Principles: Creating Persistent URIs for Government Linked Data" <http://logd.tw.rpi.edu/instance-hub-uri-design> ?

15:23:31 <PhilA> PhilA: +1 to DaveReynolds1

Phil Archer: +1 to DaveReynolds1

15:23:32 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

15:23:34 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, IPcaller is me

Joao Almeida: Zakim, IPcaller is me

15:23:34 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

15:23:48 <PhilA> Ack bhyland

Ack bhyland

15:24:08 <PhilA> bhyland: I haven't lost your e-mail. There was a substantial rework of the references and the way it was done

Bernadette Hyland: I haven't lost your e-mail. There was a substantial rework of the references and the way it was done

15:24:25 <PhilA> ... I think it was inadvertent that it was dropped

... I think it was inadvertent that it was dropped

15:24:38 <olyerickson> bhyland: Thanks! ;)

Bernadette Hyland: Thanks! ;) [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ]

15:24:44 <PhilA> bhyland: I haven't reviewed the URI design section since it was written a while ago

Bernadette Hyland: I haven't reviewed the URI design section since it was written a while ago

15:25:01 <olyerickson> gatemezi: Yes, those...

Ghislain Atemezing: Yes, those... [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ]

15:25:27 <PhilA> bhyland: The 'whole new section' isn't as big as it sounds. It's just a little section that was there and needs to be put back. There's nothing huge... but we are doing more than pubrules

Bernadette Hyland: The 'whole new section' isn't as big as it sounds. It's just a little section that was there and needs to be put back. There's nothing huge... but we are doing more than pubrules

15:25:48 <PhilA> bhyland: But it doesn't quite hang together correctly and I'd like to get it right

Bernadette Hyland: But it doesn't quite hang together correctly and I'd like to get it right

15:25:56 <PhilA> q+

q+

15:26:12 <PhilA> bhyland: Any changes that people have sent, I'm working through them today.

Bernadette Hyland: Any changes that people have sent, I'm working through them today.

15:26:20 <PhilA> ack sandro

ack sandro

15:26:25 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

15:26:26 <olyerickson> bhyland: We all understand!

Bernadette Hyland: We all understand! [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ]

15:26:39 <PhilA> sandro: I was wondering what is the state of the PII best practice?

Sandro Hawke: I was wondering what is the state of the PII best practice?

15:26:47 <PhilA> bhyland: I'm not planning to add any more to it...

Bernadette Hyland: I'm not planning to add any more to it...

15:27:04 <PhilA> sandro: I'm trying to understand why it's in the summary and not the main doc

Sandro Hawke: I'm trying to understand why it's in the summary and not the main doc

15:27:36 <PhilA> bhyland: I think it should be a best practice but we shouldn't expand on it. I don't want to add a new section as DaveReynolds1 says but I do think it should be in the doc

Bernadette Hyland: I think it should be a best practice but we shouldn't expand on it. I don't want to add a new section as DaveReynolds1 says but I do think it should be in the doc

15:27:43 <HadleyBeeman> Hadleybeeman:  quick reminder that PII has different meanings and legal restrictions in different countries.

Hadley Beeman: quick reminder that Perosnal Indentifiable Information (PII) has different meanings and legal restrictions in different countries. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

15:27:51 <PhilA> bhyland: If people don't want it as a BP then OK

Bernadette Hyland: If people don't want it as a BP then OK

15:28:06 <PhilA> s/PII/Perosnal Indentifiable Information (PII)/
15:28:28 <PhilA> sandro: But there are times when you do want to publish PII (like public officials where it's a matter of public record

Sandro Hawke: But there are times when you do want to publish PII (like public officials where it's a matter of public record

15:29:07 <sandro> sandro: it's more like "don't ACCIDENTALLY publish PII"

Sandro Hawke: it's more like "don't ACCIDENTALLY publish PII" [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:29:07 <PhilA> sandro: It's more like don't accidentally publish PII

Sandro Hawke: It's more like don't accidentally publish PII

15:29:09 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> In Brazil, salaries are published with a full name

Joao Almeida: In Brazil, salaries are published with a full name

15:29:15 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> my salary by the way

Joao Almeida: my salary by the way

15:29:19 <PhilA> bhyland: Makes some suggestions...

Bernadette Hyland: Makes some suggestions...

15:29:54 <PhilA> sandro: There are lots of cases where salaries have to be published (although not necessary as LD)

Sandro Hawke: There are lots of cases where salaries have to be published (although not necessary as LD)

15:30:13 <MakxDekkers> sorry for not being on the call -- still in another.

Makx Dekkers: sorry for not being on the call -- still in another.

15:30:18 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: makes point about PII having different meanings in different countries

Hadley Beeman: makes point about PII having different meanings in different countries

15:30:28 <PhilA> ack me

ack me

15:30:52 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> that's also in my e-mail about normativity

Joao Almeida: that's also in my e-mail about normativity

15:30:56 <HadleyBeeman> PhilA:  this is a note; nothing needs to be normative.

Phil Archer: this is a note; nothing needs to be normative. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

15:31:04 <HadleyBeeman> … It's nothing but informative.

Hadley Beeman: … It's nothing but informative.

15:31:22 <PhilA> ack HadleyBeeman

ack HadleyBeeman

15:31:34 <PhilA> q+ HadleyBeeman

q+ HadleyBeeman

15:31:51 <PhilA> sandro: There was a note about splitting up URI best practices into publisher and consumer...

Sandro Hawke: There was a note about splitting up URI best practices into publisher and consumer...

15:31:56 <PhilA> sandro:  ... looks

Sandro Hawke: ... looks

15:32:06 <Zakim> +Makx_Dekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: +Makx_Dekkers

15:32:13 <PhilA> sandro: It was from JoaoPauloAlmeida..

Sandro Hawke: It was from JoaoPauloAlmeida..

15:32:22 <PhilA> JoaoPauloAlmeida: It wasn't about URIs but vocabularies, yes

Joao Almeida: It wasn't about URIs but vocabularies, yes

15:32:32 <PhilA> bhyland: It's on my screen here

Bernadette Hyland: It's on my screen here

15:32:38 <PhilA> ... I have yet to digest it

... I have yet to digest it

15:32:43 <PhilA> ... but I will

... but I will

15:32:52 <Zakim> -cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri

15:32:54 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I can't hear properly

Joao Almeida: I can't hear properly

15:32:58 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Invites JoaoPauloAlmeida to say more

Hadley Beeman: Invites JoaoPauloAlmeida to say more

15:33:15 <bhyland> Note, Joao's email came in < 2 hrs ago...

Bernadette Hyland: Note, Joao's email came in < 2 hrs ago...

15:33:16 <Zakim> +??P13

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P13

15:33:20 <cygri> zakim, ??P13 is me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, ??P13 is me

15:33:20 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

15:33:39 <PhilA> JoaoPauloAlmeida: It was about the criteria for the vocabs. I thought it was confusing that some criteria were repeated in two sections. I think it could be simplified to make the role of the criteria a little clearer

Joao Almeida: It was about the criteria for the vocabs. I thought it was confusing that some criteria were repeated in two sections. I think it could be simplified to make the role of the criteria a little clearer

15:33:40 <bhyland> @Joao this are the types of clean up & consistency checks that are underway today

Bernadette Hyland: @Joao this are the types of clean up & consistency checks that are underway today

15:34:00 <PhilA> bhyland: Yes, thanks. This is where the doc was touched at diff times by diff people. I'll look at that

Bernadette Hyland: Yes, thanks. This is where the doc was touched at diff times by diff people. I'll look at that

15:34:11 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> thanks

Joao Almeida: thanks

15:34:24 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Anything else on content?

Hadley Beeman: Anything else on content?

15:34:27 <PhilA> ack HadleyBeeman

ack HadleyBeeman

15:34:45 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: It sounds as if the editors want another 24 hours to work through the comments.

Hadley Beeman: It sounds as if the editors want another 24 hours to work through the comments.

15:34:57 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: That suggests a new draft being sent round by this time tomorrow

Hadley Beeman: That suggests a new draft being sent round by this time tomorrow

15:35:24 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I suggest that we review it over the W/E and that we have a call on Mon or Tues that should clarify what has been done.

Hadley Beeman: I suggest that we review it over the W/E and that we have a call on Mon or Tues that should clarify what has been done.

15:35:32 <PhilA> ... we can schedule a call for Thursday as well

... we can schedule a call for Thursday as well

15:35:42 <PhilA> ... by then the pub rules should have been dealt with.

... by then the pub rules should have been dealt with.

15:36:02 <PhilA> ... if everything goes perfectly, then we can get to our call on Mon/Tue and skips the Thursday

... if everything goes perfectly, then we can get to our call on Mon/Tue and skips the Thursday

15:36:03 <bhyland> @sandro, are you able to help me with PubRules processing?

Bernadette Hyland: @sandro, are you able to help me with PubRules processing?

15:36:18 <DaveReynolds1> don't we need a week's notice for call?

Dave Reynolds: don't we need a week's notice for call?

15:37:16 <PhilA> bhyland: Can you help me with pubrules, sandro?

Bernadette Hyland: Can you help me with pubrules, sandro?

15:37:19 <PhilA> sandro: Yes

Sandro Hawke: Yes

15:37:24 <DaveReynolds1> I heard HadleyBeeman propose an out of cycle call on Mon Tue, was I wrong?

Dave Reynolds: I heard HadleyBeeman propose an out of cycle call on Mon Tue, was I wrong?

15:37:43 <PhilA> sandro: Dave is right that we shouldn't have a telecon without a week's notice.

Sandro Hawke: Dave is right that we shouldn't have a telecon without a week's notice.

15:38:16 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Can we satisfy that by having an informal call and deciding if we're going to do an e-mail vote and then go to a call on Thursday if we need it

Hadley Beeman: Can we satisfy that by having an informal call and deciding if we're going to do an e-mail vote and then go to a call on Thursday if we need it

15:39:03 <DaveReynolds1> what about changes to the new content the editors are adding?

Dave Reynolds: what about changes to the new content the editors are adding?

15:39:43 <PhilA> Further discussion ensues...

Further discussion ensues...

15:39:51 <PhilA> sandro: We need to converge

Sandro Hawke: We need to converge

15:40:08 <PhilA> sandro: We can have an informal discussion on Mon or Tues but ti can't make decisions. They have to be made on Thursday

Sandro Hawke: We can have an informal discussion on Mon or Tues but ti can't make decisions. They have to be made on Thursday

15:40:23 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: That's what I had in mind

Hadley Beeman: That's what I had in mind

15:40:35 <PhilA> bhyland: Who is the informal call with?

Bernadette Hyland: Who is the informal call with?

15:40:39 <PhilA> sandro: Anyone who wants to attend

Sandro Hawke: Anyone who wants to attend

15:40:47 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

15:40:58 <PhilA> bhyland: That would be Tuesday 17th

Bernadette Hyland: That would be Tuesday 17th

15:41:02 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

15:41:07 <PhilA> sandro: How about this time Tuesday?

Sandro Hawke: How about this time Tuesday?

15:41:09 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

15:41:13 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

15:41:17 <DaveReynolds1> +0

Dave Reynolds: +0

15:41:23 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

15:41:31 <PhilA> PhilA: Can make 15:00 GMT Tuesday

Phil Archer: Can make 15:00 GMT Tuesday

15:41:31 <bhyland> Propose - 1) Schedule telecon for final vote on BP doc only 12/12; 2) Schedule informal telecon w/ GLD WG for Tuesday 12/9) 10.00 US ET to make sure path is clear for final vote

Bernadette Hyland: Propose - 1) Schedule telecon for final vote on BP doc only 12/12; 2) Schedule informal telecon w/ GLD WG for Tuesday 12/9) 10.00 US ET to make sure path is clear for final vote

15:41:39 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

15:41:39 <MakxDekkers> -1

Makx Dekkers: -1

15:42:34 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: If you have a chance to have a look at the doc by Tuesday, MakxDekkers, that would be useful

Hadley Beeman: If you have a chance to have a look at the doc by Tuesday, MakxDekkers, that would be useful

15:42:37 <PhilA> MakxDekkers: I'll try

Makx Dekkers: I'll try

15:42:50 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Anything else you need Bernadette?

Hadley Beeman: Anything else you need Bernadette?

15:43:08 <PhilA> bhyland: If anyone has anything else to raise by e-mail, please do so. I'll respond in kind

Bernadette Hyland: If anyone has anything else to raise by e-mail, please do so. I'll respond in kind

15:43:16 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I think that winds up BP

Hadley Beeman: I think that winds up BP

15:43:40 <PhilA> bhyland: I'm sorry that we got to this stage before there was this much work on it. It's been adrift for best part of a year

Bernadette Hyland: I'm sorry that we got to this stage before there was this much work on it. It's been adrift for best part of a year

15:43:51 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: The past is the past. Important thing is what we can do inthe next week

Hadley Beeman: The past is the past. Important thing is what we can do in the next week

15:44:04 <gatemezi> s/inthe/in the
15:44:09 <PhilA> topic: Data Cube/ORG/DCAT

3. Data Cube/ORG/DCAT

15:44:28 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: How are you on ...,(Hadley starts talking through her onesie)

Hadley Beeman: How are you on ...,(Hadley starts talking through her onesie)

15:44:56 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: There was one more implementation report from Sraven which was helpful but didn't affect status

Dave Reynolds: There was one more implementation report from Sraven which was helpful but didn't affect status

15:45:24 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: There was some feedback from Dom on lack of clarity on a term. Editorial only, I made the change on Friday and documented it in the PR section

Dave Reynolds: There was some feedback from Dom on lack of clarity on a term. Editorial only, I made the change on Friday and documented it in the PR section

15:45:27 <HadleyBeeman> s/sraven/csarven

Hadley Beeman: s/sraven/csarven (warning: replacement failed)

15:45:45 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Sounds good

Hadley Beeman: Sounds good

15:45:52 <PhilA> ... and ORG?

... and ORG?

15:46:20 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: That was ORG. For QB, one implementation report, ORG, one little ed change, responded and done

Dave Reynolds: That was ORG. For QB, one implementation report, ORG, one little ed change, responded and done

15:46:25 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me

Fadi Maali: Zakim, unmute me

15:46:25 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should no longer be muted

15:46:30 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Sitting in a corridor ...

Hadley Beeman: Sitting in a corridor ...

15:46:44 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Anything on DCAT?

Hadley Beeman: Anything on DCAT?

15:46:50 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open

15:46:51 <PhilA> fadmaa: Nope. All well and no change

Fadi Maali: Nope. All well and no change

15:46:55 <PhilA> topic: Open Actions

4. Open Actions

15:47:01 <PhilA> action-34?

ACTION-34?

15:47:01 <trackbot> action-34 -- Bernadette Hyland to Convene a meeting on armchair usability for community directory -- due 2013-02-28 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-34 -- Bernadette Hyland to Convene a meeting on armchair usability for community directory -- due 2013-02-28 -- OPEN

15:47:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/34

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/34

15:47:11 <bhyland> zakim, who is speaking?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is speaking?

15:47:12 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: bhyland?

Hadley Beeman: bhyland?

15:47:16 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I hear a lot of noise

Joao Almeida: I hear a lot of noise

15:47:21 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (30%), cygri (20%), Sandro (4%), fadmaa (10%)

Zakim IRC Bot: bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (30%), cygri (20%), Sandro (4%), fadmaa (10%)

15:47:31 <PhilA> zakim, who is making noise?

zakim, who is making noise?

15:47:42 <Zakim> PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (64%), HadleyBeeman (53%), Makx_Dekkers (10%)

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (64%), HadleyBeeman (53%), Makx_Dekkers (10%)

15:47:53 <PhilA> action-34 close

ACTION-34 close

15:48:01 <PhilA> close action-34

close ACTION-34

15:48:01 <trackbot> Closed action-34.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-34.

15:48:13 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, mute makx_dekkers

Hadley Beeman: zakim, mute makx_dekkers

15:48:13 <Zakim> Makx_Dekkers should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Makx_Dekkers should now be muted

15:48:29 <PhilA> action-35?

ACTION-35?

15:48:29 <trackbot> action-35 -- Bart van Leeuwen to Leeuwen to investigate how Good Relations etc could assist with automatically filling up the directory -- due 2012-02-01 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-35 -- Bart van Leeuwen to Leeuwen to investigate how Good Relations etc could assist with automatically filling up the directory -- due 2012-02-01 -- OPEN

15:48:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/35

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/35

15:48:37 <Zakim> -cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri

15:48:53 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Did what you just said apply to the directory as well on this bhyland?

Hadley Beeman: Did what you just said apply to the directory as well on this bhyland?

15:49:21 <DaveReynolds1> Suggest it is obsolete

Dave Reynolds: Suggest it is obsolete

15:49:22 <PhilA> bhyland: This was something Bart raised a year ago

Bernadette Hyland: This was something Bart raised a year ago

15:49:29 <Zakim> +??P13

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P13

15:49:33 <PhilA> bhyland: It's no longer in scope

Bernadette Hyland: It's no longer in scope

15:49:36 <cygri> zakim, ??P13 is me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, ??P13 is me

15:49:36 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

15:49:47 <PhilA> Action-35 has been overtaken by events

ACTION-35 has been overtaken by events

15:50:04 <PhilA> close action-34

close ACTION-34

15:50:04 <trackbot> Closed action-34.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-34.

15:50:09 <PhilA> close action-35

close ACTION-35

15:50:09 <trackbot> Closed action-35.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-35.

15:50:23 <PhilA> action-67?

ACTION-67?

15:50:23 <trackbot> action-67 -- Bernadette Hyland to Send presentation -- due 2012-04-26 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-67 -- Bernadette Hyland to Send presentation -- due 2012-04-26 -- OPEN

15:50:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/67

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/67

15:50:40 <PhilA> bhyland:  I have no idea what they was about - overtaken by events...

Bernadette Hyland: I have no idea what they was about - overtaken by events...

15:50:44 <PhilA> close action-67

close ACTION-67

15:50:44 <trackbot> Closed action-67.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-67.

15:51:04 <olyerickson> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/74

John Erickson: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/74

15:51:19 <PhilA> close action-45

close ACTION-45

15:51:19 <trackbot> Closed action-45.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-45.

15:51:29 <Zakim> -olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson

15:51:44 <PhilA> action-75?

ACTION-75?

15:51:44 <trackbot> action-75 -- Bernadette Hyland to Get a Computer Science Intern to spend ca. 4 hours a week on gathering data for the directory -- due 2012-09-13 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-75 -- Bernadette Hyland to Get a Computer Science Intern to spend ca. 4 hours a week on gathering data for the directory -- due 2012-09-13 -- OPEN

15:51:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/75

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/75

15:51:56 <PhilA> Overtaken by evetns - now in the CG

Overtaken by evetns - now in the CG

15:52:01 <PhilA> close action-75

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15:52:01 <trackbot> Closed action-75.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-75.

15:52:11 <HadleyBeeman> action-77?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-77?

15:52:11 <trackbot> action-77 -- Fadi Maali to Include text in DCAT to point to the BP doc, with link to the issue in the interim -- due 2013-05-30 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-77 -- Fadi Maali to Include text in DCAT to point to the BP doc, with link to the issue in the interim -- due 2013-05-30 -- OPEN

15:52:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/77

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/77

15:52:17 <PhilA> action-77?

ACTION-77?

15:52:17 <trackbot> action-77 -- Fadi Maali to Include text in DCAT to point to the BP doc, with link to the issue in the interim -- due 2013-05-30 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-77 -- Fadi Maali to Include text in DCAT to point to the BP doc, with link to the issue in the interim -- due 2013-05-30 -- OPEN

15:52:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/77

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/77

15:52:29 <PhilA> fadmaa: I don't think is appropriate anymore

Fadi Maali: I don't think is appropriate anymore

15:52:42 <PhilA> close action-77

close ACTION-77

15:52:42 <trackbot> Closed action-77.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-77.

15:52:50 <PhilA> close action-85

close ACTION-85

15:52:50 <trackbot> Closed action-85.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-85.

15:53:01 <PhilA> action-105?

ACTION-105?

15:53:01 <trackbot> action-105 -- Sandro Hawke to Determine who meets the current "active participants" bar, for including in publications -- due 2013-03-28 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-105 -- Sandro Hawke to Determine who meets the current "active participants" bar, for including in publications -- due 2013-03-28 -- OPEN

15:53:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/105

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/105

15:53:12 <PhilA> sandro: I will try to do that - we should leave it open

Sandro Hawke: I will try to do that - we should leave it open

15:53:27 <PhilA> close action-113 - we did it

close ACTION-113 - we did it

15:53:36 <PhilA> close action-113

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15:54:08 <PhilA> close action-74

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15:54:08 <trackbot> Closed action-74.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-74.

15:54:12 <HadleyBeeman> action-118?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-118?

15:54:12 <trackbot> action-118 -- Richard Cyganiak to Raise issue on adms:includedAssed vs adms:includedItem -- due 2013-04-19 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-118 -- Richard Cyganiak to Raise issue on adms:includedAssed vs adms:includedItem -- due 2013-04-19 -- OPEN

15:54:12 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/118

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/118

15:54:23 <PhilA> close action-114

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15:54:23 <trackbot> Closed action-114.

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15:54:36 <PhilA> bhyland: Because the CG is done (i.e. open)

Bernadette Hyland: Because the CG is done (i.e. open)

15:54:57 <PhilA> action 118 was resolved ages ago when ADMS was publsihed, no worries

ACTION-118 was resolved ages ago when ADMS was publsihed, no worries

15:54:57 <trackbot> Error finding '118'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users>.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding '118'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users>.

15:55:03 <PhilA> close action-118

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15:55:03 <trackbot> Closed action-118.

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15:55:21 <HadleyBeeman> action-119?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-119?

15:55:21 <trackbot> action-119 -- Richard Cyganiak to Write up justification for no-change approach to ISSUE-64 (Dataset vs dataset vs hasDataset) -- due 2013-04-19 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-119 -- Richard Cyganiak to Write up justification for no-change approach to ISSUE-64 (Dataset vs dataset vs hasDataset) -- due 2013-04-19 -- OPEN

15:55:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/119

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/119

15:55:33 <HadleyBeeman> cygri?

Hadley Beeman: cygri?

15:55:34 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Was that done cygri?

Hadley Beeman: Was that done cygri?

15:56:14 <PhilA> cygri: I can't remember what the story was. I don't recall doing it, neitehr do I remember what was involved

Richard Cyganiak: I can't remember what the story was. I don't recall doing it, neitehr do I remember what was involved

15:56:20 <cygri> +1

Richard Cyganiak: +1

15:56:20 <PhilA> ... no longer something we need to do

... no longer something we need to do

15:56:25 <PhilA> close action-119

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15:56:28 <HadleyBeeman> action-125?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-125?

15:56:28 <trackbot> action-125 -- Tope Omitola to PhilA update ADMS timetable -- due 2013-05-09 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-125 -- Tope Omitola to PhilA update ADMS timetable -- due 2013-05-09 -- OPEN

15:56:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/125

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/125

15:56:42 <PhilA> Did that ages ago. ADMS well out of the door

Did that ages ago. ADMS well out of the door

15:56:50 <PhilA> close action-125

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15:56:52 <HadleyBeeman> action-126?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-126?

15:56:52 <trackbot> action-126 -- Tope Omitola to PhilA update RegORG timetable -- due 2013-05-09 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-126 -- Tope Omitola to PhilA update RegORG timetable -- due 2013-05-09 -- OPEN

15:56:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/126

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/126

15:56:58 <PhilA> Likewise

Likewise

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15:57:06 <HadleyBeeman> action-128?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-128?

15:57:06 <trackbot> action-128 -- Bernadette Hyland to Coordinate with sandro on CommonScribe replacement process. -- due 2013-05-16 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-128 -- Bernadette Hyland to Coordinate with sandro on CommonScribe replacement process. -- due 2013-05-16 -- OPEN

15:57:06 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/128

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15:57:16 <PhilA> Overcome by events

Overcome by events

15:57:25 <PhilA> close action-128

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15:57:27 <HadleyBeeman> action-129?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-129?

15:57:27 <trackbot> action-129 -- Bernadette Hyland to Update GLD WG Scribe's End of Meeting Checklist -- due 2013-05-16 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-129 -- Bernadette Hyland to Update GLD WG Scribe's End of Meeting Checklist -- due 2013-05-16 -- OPEN

15:57:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/129

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15:57:30 <PhilA> Overcome by events

Overcome by events

15:57:34 <PhilA> close action-129

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15:57:44 <HadleyBeeman> action-131?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-131?

15:57:44 <trackbot> action-131 -- Hadley Beeman to Communicate work with W3C staff contacts to progress to CR -- due 2013-05-16 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-131 -- Hadley Beeman to Communicate work with W3C staff contacts to progress to CR -- due 2013-05-16 -- OPEN

15:57:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/131

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15:57:55 <PhilA> That was done. Lots of CRs

That was done. Lots of CRs

15:57:58 <PhilA> close action-131

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15:57:59 <HadleyBeeman> action-133?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-133?

15:57:59 <trackbot> action-133 -- Hadley Beeman to Going to request another week to review Marios' comments -- due 2013-05-16 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-133 -- Hadley Beeman to Going to request another week to review Marios' comments -- due 2013-05-16 -- OPEN

15:57:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/133

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15:58:08 <PhilA> done a while back

done a while back

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15:58:17 <HadleyBeeman> action-136

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-136

15:58:17 <trackbot> action-136 -- Marios Meimaris to Draft response to JSON-LD by early next week -- due 2013-05-23 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-136 -- Marios Meimaris to Draft response to JSON-LD by early next week -- due 2013-05-23 -- OPEN

15:58:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/136

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15:58:23 <PhilA> Similar - all done

Similar - all done

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15:58:29 <HadleyBeeman> action-141?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-141?

15:58:29 <trackbot> action-141 -- Bernadette Hyland to Bhyland to fix the meeting page -- due 2013-06-06 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-141 -- Bernadette Hyland to Bhyland to fix the meeting page -- due 2013-06-06 -- OPEN

15:58:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/141

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15:58:36 <PhilA> overcome by...

overcome by...

15:58:42 <PhilA> close action-141

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15:58:44 <HadleyBeeman> action-148?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-148?

15:58:44 <trackbot> action-148 -- Bernadette Hyland to Fold in 10 steps to Linked Open Data from Denise W & Martin K, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0016.html -- due 2013-08-08 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-148 -- Bernadette Hyland to Fold in 10 steps to Linked Open Data from Denise W & Martin K, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0016.html -- due 2013-08-08 -- OPEN

15:58:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/148

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15:58:56 <PhilA> bhyland:  I did that, it's in the current draft

Bernadette Hyland: I did that, it's in the current draft

15:58:59 <PhilA> close action-148

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15:59:07 <HadleyBeeman> action-149?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-149?

15:59:07 <trackbot> action-149 -- Phil Archer to Will communicate with schema.org facilitators & ask them to update terms from dcat & adms. -- due 2013-10-24 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-149 -- Phil Archer to Will communicate with schema.org facilitators & ask them to update terms from dcat & adms. -- due 2013-10-24 -- OPEN

15:59:07 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/149

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15:59:14 <PhilA> PhilA: I did that

Phil Archer: I did that

16:00:12 <HadleyBeeman> action-156?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-156?

16:00:12 <trackbot> action-156 -- Bernadette Hyland to Indicate in the bp abstract that the document is unfinished and is subject to change -- due 2013-12-12 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-156 -- Bernadette Hyland to Indicate in the bp abstract that the document is unfinished and is subject to change -- due 2013-12-12 -- OPEN

16:00:12 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/156

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16:00:14 <PhilA> There's an e-mail about that in the archive

There's an e-mail about that in the archive

16:00:22 <PhilA> close action-149

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16:00:28 <PhilA> bhyland: I did that

Bernadette Hyland: I did that

16:00:35 <PhilA> close action-156

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16:01:28 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPostal_code&ei=0t2pUpKwDdPQkQfc54HABA&usg=AFQjCNG-PxcV-JKGz7Yzd9nq9HxQwhF_Eg&sig2=8fpEt0a1WV8dLndAfAwDZA&bvm=bv.57967247,d.eW0

Joao Almeida: http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPostal_code&ei=0t2pUpKwDdPQkQfc54HABA&usg=AFQjCNG-PxcV-JKGz7Yzd9nq9HxQwhF_Eg&sig2=8fpEt0a1WV8dLndAfAwDZA&bvm=bv.57967247,d.eW0

16:01:33 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> sorry about that

Joao Almeida: sorry about that

16:01:38 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_code

Joao Almeida: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_code

16:01:45 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_code

Joao Almeida: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_code

16:01:48 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> now it's right

Joao Almeida: now it's right

16:01:50 <HadleyBeeman> Pending review actions http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/pendingreview

Hadley Beeman: Pending review actions http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/pendingreview

16:02:00 <HadleyBeeman> action-19?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-19?

16:02:00 <trackbot> action-19 -- Biplav Srivastava to Agreed to document some use cases for "roadmap" scenarios for localities contemplating putting content on the LoD. -- due 2011-11-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-19 -- Biplav Srivastava to Agreed to document some use cases for "roadmap" scenarios for localities contemplating putting content on the LoD. -- due 2011-11-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW

16:02:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/19

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16:02:13 <PhilA> that was due in Nov 2011!

that was due in Nov 2011!

16:02:19 <csarven> Must run now :) Came to say: congrats to everyone for awesome work. Great output! Learned a lot. Thank you! :) [If I can make it next week, I'll repeat ;)]

Sarven Capadisli: Must run now :) Came to say: congrats to everyone for awesome work. Great output! Learned a lot. Thank you! :) [If I can make it next week, I'll repeat ;)]

16:02:20 <PhilA> close action-19

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16:02:30 <HadleyBeeman> action-22?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-22?

16:02:30 <trackbot> action-22 -- Ronald Reck to Reck to make a contribution to section 2.5 on stability -- due 2011-11-24 -- PENDINGREVIEW

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-22 -- Ronald Reck to Reck to make a contribution to section 2.5 on stability -- due 2011-11-24 -- PENDINGREVIEW

16:02:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/22

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16:02:32 <Zakim> -csarven

Zakim IRC Bot: -csarven

16:02:41 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

16:02:46 <PhilA> close action-22

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16:02:52 <HadleyBeeman> action-24?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-24?

16:02:52 <trackbot> action-24 -- Phil Archer to DCAT Community draft -- due 2011-12-05 -- PENDINGREVIEW

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-24 -- Phil Archer to DCAT Community draft -- due 2011-12-05 -- PENDINGREVIEW

16:02:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/24

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16:03:15 <PhilA> close action-24

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16:03:18 <HadleyBeeman> action-54?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-54?

16:03:18 <trackbot> action-54 -- Bernadette Hyland to Produce a Linked Data Glossary from existing content in wiki & books. -- due 2013-02-28 -- PENDINGREVIEW

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-54 -- Bernadette Hyland to Produce a Linked Data Glossary from existing content in wiki & books. -- due 2013-02-28 -- PENDINGREVIEW

16:03:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/54

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16:03:22 <PhilA> Done

Done

16:03:28 <PhilA> close action-54

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16:03:28 <HadleyBeeman> action-96?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-96?

16:03:28 <trackbot> action-96 -- Richard Cyganiak to Ask Sandro how to proceed on getting an HTML representation for the namespace document (see ACTION-68) -- due 2013-02-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-96 -- Richard Cyganiak to Ask Sandro how to proceed on getting an HTML representation for the namespace document (see ACTION-68) -- due 2013-02-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW

16:03:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/96

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16:03:41 <HadleyBeeman> cygri?

Hadley Beeman: cygri?

16:04:00 <PhilA> http://www.w3.org/2013/vocabspec/examples/dcat.html

http://www.w3.org/2013/vocabspec/examples/dcat.html

16:04:27 <PhilA> cygri: I reminded sandroof this 2 weeks ago. Only 10 months late on the action

Richard Cyganiak: I reminded sandroof this 2 weeks ago. Only 10 months late on the action

16:04:33 <PhilA> close action-96

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16:04:55 <Zakim> -cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri

16:05:17 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I'll hold the last part of the agenda - the new groups - until next week.

Hadley Beeman: I'll hold the last part of the agenda - the new groups - until next week.

16:05:28 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I'll send out a note about next week in due course

Hadley Beeman: I'll send out a note about next week in due course

16:05:40 <bhyland> Yay, good looking list http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/

Bernadette Hyland: Yay, good looking list http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/

16:05:45 <MakxDekkers> bye

Makx Dekkers: bye

16:05:45 <bhyland> Thanks Hadley & all!

Bernadette Hyland: Thanks Hadley & all!

16:05:52 <Zakim> +??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8

16:05:52 <bhyland> Thanks Phil for scribing

Bernadette Hyland: Thanks Phil for scribing

16:05:55 <Zakim> -tinagheen

Zakim IRC Bot: -tinagheen

16:05:57 <Zakim> -PhilA

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA

16:05:59 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds1

Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds1

16:06:01 <bhyland> cheers

Bernadette Hyland: cheers

16:06:01 <Zakim> -fadmaa

Zakim IRC Bot: -fadmaa

16:06:01 <Zakim> -Makx_Dekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: -Makx_Dekkers

16:06:04 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida

Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida

16:06:07 <Zakim> -??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P8

16:06:08 <Zakim> -bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: -bhyland

16:06:11 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?

zakim, who is here?

16:06:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see PhilA.a, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see PhilA.a, HadleyBeeman

16:06:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see gatemezi_, HadleyBeeman, deirdrelee, cygri, olyerickson, Zakim, PhilA, RRSAgent, TallTed, bhyland, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see gatemezi_, HadleyBeeman, deirdrelee, cygri, olyerickson, Zakim, PhilA, RRSAgent, TallTed, bhyland, sandro, trackbot

16:06:25 <HadleyBeeman> trackbot, end meeting

Hadley Beeman: trackbot, end meeting

16:06:25 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees

16:06:25 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?

zakim, who is here?

16:06:26 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been HadleyBeeman, +3539149aaaa, bhyland, csarven, cygri, PhilA, Sandro, JoaoPauloAlmeida, olyerickson, fadmaa, deirdrelee, DaveReynolds1,

Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been HadleyBeeman, +3539149aaaa, bhyland, csarven, cygri, PhilA, Sandro, JoaoPauloAlmeida, olyerickson, fadmaa, deirdrelee, DaveReynolds1,

16:06:29 <Zakim> ... tinagheen, Makx_Dekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: ... tinagheen, Makx_Dekkers

16:06:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see PhilA.a, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see PhilA.a, HadleyBeeman

16:06:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see gatemezi_, HadleyBeeman, deirdrelee, olyerickson, Zakim, PhilA, RRSAgent, TallTed, bhyland, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see gatemezi_, HadleyBeeman, deirdrelee, olyerickson, Zakim, PhilA, RRSAgent, TallTed, bhyland, sandro, trackbot

16:06:33 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes

16:06:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/12-gld-minutes.html trackbot

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/12-gld-minutes.html trackbot

16:06:34 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye

16:06:34 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items



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