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Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 05 December 2013

Seen
Bernadette Hyland, Biplav Srivastava, Dave Reynolds, Deirdre Lee, Fadi Maali, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, Joao Almeida, Sandro Hawke, Tina Gheen
Chair
Hadley Beeman
Scribe
Fadi Maali, Sandro Hawke
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1.  approve last week's minutes link
  2. DCAT is ready to advance to Proposed Recommendation. link
  3. Data Cube is ready to advance to Proposed Recommendation. link
  4. Transition Data Cube to Proposed recommendation link
  5. transition ORG to proposed recommendation link
Topics
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14:58:18 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:58:18 <trackbot> Date: 05 December 2013
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15:01:52 <bhyland> Hi

Bernadette Hyland: Hi

15:02:23 <Zakim> +Sandro

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15:02:58 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

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15:02:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, fadmaa, +33.4.93.00.aabb, bhyland, JoaoPauloAlmeida, Sandro

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15:03:14 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, gatemezi is aabb

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15:03:18 <bhyland> zakim, aabb is gatemazi

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15:03:24 <Zakim> +biplav

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15:03:26 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

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15:03:30 <fadmaa> scribe: fadmaa

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15:03:38 <bhyland> chair: hadley
15:03:54 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-11-21

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-11-21

15:04:03 <fadmaa> +1

+1

15:04:06 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

15:04:08 <HadleyBeeman> proposed:  approve last week's minutes

PROPOSED: approve last week's minutes

15:04:10 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

15:04:13 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

15:04:14 <fadmaa> +1

+1

15:04:17 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

15:04:18 <Biplav> +1

Biplav Srivastava: +1

15:04:28 <HadleyBeeman> resolved:  approve last week's minutes

RESOLVED:  approve last week's minutes

15:04:56 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> the link was wrong

Joao Almeida: the link was wrong

15:05:02 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> should have been http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-11-28

Joao Almeida: should have been http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-11-28

15:05:05 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

15:05:13 <HadleyBeeman> thanks, joaopaulo!

Hadley Beeman: thanks, joaopaulo!

15:05:41 <sandro> +1 minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-11-28

Sandro Hawke: +1 minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-11-28

15:05:44 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1 anyway

Joao Almeida: +1 anyway

15:05:46 <fadmaa> TOPIC: DCAT

1. DCAT

15:05:50 <sandro> (agreed we meant that one)

Sandro Hawke: (agreed we meant that one)

15:05:50 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me

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15:06:02 <sandro> scribe: sandro

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15:06:05 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_PR_transition

Fadi Maali: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_PR_transition

15:06:16 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: fadmaa where are we on PR transition

Hadley Beeman: fadmaa where are we on PR transition

15:06:30 <sandro> fadmaa: all good, except I didn't know how to generate diff

Fadi Maali: all good, except I didn't know how to generate diff

15:06:44 <sandro> sandro: I'll do diff

Sandro Hawke: I'll do diff

15:06:46 <Zakim> +[LC]

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15:06:56 <tinagheen> Zakim, LC is me

Tina Gheen: Zakim, LC is me

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15:07:02 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:07:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, fadmaa, gatemazi, bhyland, JoaoPauloAlmeida, Sandro, biplav, [IPcaller], tinagheen

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15:07:33 <sandro> Zakim, IPcaller is deirdrelee

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15:08:09 <sandro> fadmaa: Impl report, three sections to look at

Fadi Maali: Impl report, three sections to look at

15:08:28 <fadmaa> "dcat:byteSize has only one conforming usage, however its deprecated predecessors (dcat:bytes and dcat:size) are used. dcat_byteSize was introduced to replace dcat:bytes and dcat:size to simplify the data model less than a year ago. The DCAT Application profile for data portals in Europe (DCAT-AP), a specification based on DCAT for describing public sector datasets in Europe, includes dcat:byteSize in its recommended terms. A similar recommendation of dcat:byte[CUT] "

Fadi Maali: "dcat:byteSize has only one conforming usage, however its deprecated predecessors (dcat:bytes and dcat:size) are used. dcat_byteSize was introduced to replace dcat:bytes and dcat:size to simplify the data model less than a year ago. The DCAT Application profile for data portals in Europe (DCAT-AP), a specification based on DCAT for describing public sector datasets in Europe, includes dcat:byteSize in its recommended terms. A similar recommendation of dcat:byte[CUT] "

15:08:35 <sandro> fadmaa: only dcat byteSize is at issue

Fadi Maali: only dcat byteSize is at issue

15:08:44 <sandro> +1

+1

15:09:15 <fadmaa> Some further comments were received. We kept track of them and tried to address all of them. Few requests asked to extend the vocabulary in some direction (e.g. specific terms for tabular data, versioning, etc...) These requests couldn't be addressed due to the scope of the work as described in the WG charter and to the resources available.

Fadi Maali: Some further comments were received. We kept track of them and tried to address all of them. Few requests asked to extend the vocabulary in some direction (e.g. specific terms for tabular data, versioning, etc...) These requests couldn't be addressed due to the scope of the work as described in the WG charter and to the resources available.

15:09:18 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: under Wide Review, yes, looks good.

Hadley Beeman: under Wide Review, yes, looks good.

15:10:01 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: I think that's okay.

Hadley Beeman: I think that's okay.

15:10:44 <sandro> fadmaa: I added the bit about domains.

Fadi Maali: I added the bit about domains.

15:10:58 <HadleyBeeman> … to the HTML document.  PhilA did it for the ontology.

Hadley Beeman: … to the HTML document. PhilA did it for the ontology.

15:11:04 <sandro> fadmaa: It's a "noteworthy" change, but not "minor"

Fadi Maali: It's a "noteworthy" change, but not "minor"

15:11:11 <fadmaa> Missing domain definitions for some terms The document was updated so that all properties defined under the DCAT namespace have their domain explicitly mentioned in the document (described above).

Fadi Maali: Missing domain definitions for some terms The document was updated so that all properties defined under the DCAT namespace have their domain explicitly mentioned in the document (described above).

15:11:20 <sandro> +1

+1

15:11:24 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

15:11:46 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

15:11:50 <sandro> sandro: suggest s/mentioned/declared/

Sandro Hawke: suggest s/declared/declared/

15:11:50 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Implementations

Fadi Maali: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Implementations

15:11:50 <bhyland> s/mentioned/declared
15:12:24 <sandro> fadmaa: Three new reports.   ckan, ...

Fadi Maali: Three new reports. ckan, ...

15:12:42 <HadleyBeeman> … Data Tank

Hadley Beeman: … Data Tank

15:12:52 <sandro> fadmaa: new section, on "Recommending DCAT"

Fadi Maali: new section, on "Recommending DCAT"

15:12:59 <sandro> +1 looks great

+1 looks great

15:13:04 <Zakim> -deirdrelee

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15:13:35 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: I like it, it supports the case well.

Hadley Beeman: I like it, it supports the case well.

15:14:19 <sandro> fadmaa: Yes, I'm happy with impl. reports.   Links are all good.

Fadi Maali: Yes, I'm happy with impl. reports. Links are all good.

15:14:22 <bhyland> Whoot!  Great work Fadi!

Bernadette Hyland: Whoot! Great work Fadi!

15:14:24 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_LC_comments

Fadi Maali: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_LC_comments

15:14:26 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: Comments?

Hadley Beeman: Comments?

15:14:46 <sandro> fadmaa: I just replied to Leigh Dodds asking for confirmation that he's okay with the text as it now stands

Fadi Maali: I just replied to Leigh Dodds asking for confirmation that he's okay with the text as it now stands

15:15:11 <sandro> fadmaa: For the one about downloadURL and accessURL; last week I sent reply, but don't have confirmation from commenters.

Fadi Maali: For the one about downloadURL and accessURL; last week I sent reply, but don't have confirmation from commenters.

15:15:27 <sandro> fadmaa: Two issues were resolved by WG.   We just don't have formal acknowledgement.

Fadi Maali: Two issues were resolved by WG. We just don't have formal acknowledgement.

15:15:49 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: Table at top of comments page.

Hadley Beeman: Table at top of comments page.

15:16:12 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: Status....

Hadley Beeman: Status....

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15:16:37 <sandro> fadmaa: All we've replied to, but not received....

Fadi Maali: All we've replied to, but not received....

15:16:53 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida

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15:17:07 <Zakim> +??P11

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15:17:09 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P11 is me

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15:17:19 <sandro> sandro: LC vs CR comments....?

Sandro Hawke: LC vs CR comments....?

15:17:32 <sandro> fadmaa: Some of the LC ones were CR.

Fadi Maali: Some of the LC ones were CR.

15:17:55 <sandro> fadmaa: I'll split the CR ones out into another table.

Fadi Maali: I'll split the CR ones out into another table.

15:18:00 <sandro> fadmaa: on same page

Fadi Maali: on same page

15:18:13 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: It looks like we're ready to go!

Hadley Beeman: It looks like we're ready to go!

15:18:21 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: Anything else on your to-do list?

Hadley Beeman: Anything else on your to-do list?

15:18:38 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: As the WG had enough time to review it?

Hadley Beeman: As the WG had enough time to review it?

15:18:53 <bhyland> The organization of the http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_LC_comments is really helpful.

Bernadette Hyland: The organization of the http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_LC_comments is really helpful.

15:18:56 <sandro> bhyland: I'd like a chance to review, but I don't want to hold things up.

Bernadette Hyland: I'd like a chance to review, but I don't want to hold things up.

15:19:44 <sandro> sandro: If folks needs to review, we could resolve to move forward sending transition request tomorrow?

Sandro Hawke: If folks needs to review, we could resolve to move forward sending transition request tomorrow?

15:20:05 <sandro> bhyland: THanks so much Fadi.    Excellent, excellent work.

Bernadette Hyland: THanks so much Fadi. Excellent, excellent work.

15:21:02 <sandro> PROPOSED: DCAT is ready to advance to Proposed Recommendations.  We

PROPOSED: DCAT is ready to advance to Proposed Recommendations. We

15:21:09 <sandro> PROPOSED: DCAT is ready to advance to Proposed Recommendations.

PROPOSED: DCAT is ready to advance to Proposed Recommendations.

15:21:13 <sandro> PROPOSED: DCAT is ready to advance to Proposed Recommendation.

PROPOSED: DCAT is ready to advance to Proposed Recommendation.

15:21:16 <sandro> +1

+1

15:21:18 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

15:21:20 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

15:21:21 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

15:21:22 <fadmaa> +1

Fadi Maali: +1

15:21:24 <tinagheen> +1

Tina Gheen: +1

15:21:25 <Biplav> +1

Biplav Srivastava: +1

15:21:26 <DaveReynolds> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1

15:21:44 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

15:21:53 <sandro> RESOLVED: DCAT is ready to advance to Proposed Recommendation.

RESOLVED: DCAT is ready to advance to Proposed Recommendation.

15:21:59 <bhyland> Yay!

Bernadette Hyland: Yay!

15:22:05 <sandro> congradulations!!!!

congradulations!!!!

15:22:08 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

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15:22:08 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted

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15:22:17 <gatemezi> congrats fadmaa and al.

Ghislain Atemezing: congrats fadmaa and al.

15:22:21 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Data Cube

2. Data Cube

15:22:21 <sandro> topic: Data Cube

3. Data Cube

15:22:30 <DaveReynolds> <http://environment.data.gov.uk/registry/structure/entity-type/>

Dave Reynolds: <http://environment.data.gov.uk/registry/structure/entity-type/>

15:22:34 <sandro> scribe:fadmaa

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15:22:40 <DaveReynolds> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_PR_transition

Dave Reynolds: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_PR_transition

15:22:56 <bhyland> Congratulations to Fadi, John, and Phil for the considerable work in getting DCAT transitioned!

Bernadette Hyland: Congratulations to Fadi, John, and Phil for the considerable work in getting DCAT ready for transition!

15:22:59 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: There's been no change to the transition page itself

Dave Reynolds: There's been no change to the transition page itself

15:23:09 <bhyland> s/transitioned/ready for transition
15:23:09 <DaveReynolds> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Implementations

Dave Reynolds: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Implementations

15:23:24 <fadmaa> ... the implementations page  http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Implementations had three new reports

... the implementations page http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Implementations had three new reports

15:23:39 <fadmaa> ... there were some issued raised related to conformance report

... there were some issues raised related to conformance report

15:23:46 <fadmaa> s/issued/issues/
15:24:25 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: there were three failures but all agreed that the failure was due to the data and not the conformance test

Dave Reynolds: there were three failures but all agreed that the failure was due to the data and not the conformance test

15:24:50 <fadmaa> ... that's a good indicator that the conformance tests are doing good job

... that's a good indicator that the conformance tests are doing good job

15:25:32 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: It is still possible that we get an extra one

Dave Reynolds: It is still possible that we get an extra one

15:25:46 <sandro> +1 DaveReynolds this is awesome

Sandro Hawke: +1 DaveReynolds this is awesome

15:25:53 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: that's great work! phenomenal

Hadley Beeman: that's great work! phenomenal

15:26:11 <fadmaa> great work DaveReynolds !

great work DaveReynolds !

15:26:38 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: no changes were made to the Data Cube TR

Dave Reynolds: no changes were made to the Data Cube TR

15:26:46 <bhyland> @Dave, your implementations write up should serve as the bar for all others, excellent work.  Thank you!

Bernadette Hyland: @Dave, your implementations write up should serve as the bar for all others, excellent work. Thank you!

15:26:49 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

15:26:53 <sandro> RESOLVED: Data Cube is ready to advance to Proposed Recommendation.

RESOLVED: Data Cube is ready to advance to Proposed Recommendation.

15:26:58 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

15:26:59 <fadmaa> Proposed: Transition Data Cube to recommendation

PROPOSED: Transition Data Cube to recommendation

15:27:00 <Biplav> +1

Biplav Srivastava: +1

15:27:01 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

15:27:03 <DaveReynolds> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1

15:27:04 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

15:27:04 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

15:27:05 <tinagheen> +1

Tina Gheen: +1

15:27:07 <deirdrelee_> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

15:27:20 <fadmaa> Proposed: Transition Data Cube to  Proposed recommendation

PROPOSED: Transition Data Cube to Proposed recommendation

15:27:20 <fadmaa> +1

+1

15:27:41 <fadmaa> Resolved: Transition Data Cube to  Proposed recommendation

RESOLVED: Transition Data Cube to Proposed recommendation

15:27:49 <bhyland> Congrats!

Bernadette Hyland: Congrats!

15:27:57 <sandro> Congratulations!!

Sandro Hawke: Congratulations!!

15:28:03 <DaveReynolds> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_PR_transition

Dave Reynolds: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_PR_transition

15:28:07 <fadmaa> TOPIC: ORG vocabulary

4. ORG vocabulary

15:28:21 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: ORG TR hasn't changed since two weeks

Dave Reynolds: ORG TR hasn't changed since two weeks

15:28:31 <fadmaa> ... there has been no new implementation reports

... there has been no new implementation reports

15:28:36 <DaveReynolds> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Implementations

Dave Reynolds: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Implementations

15:29:08 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: all terms are used apart from 5 terms each of which having 1 usage

Dave Reynolds: all terms are used apart from 5 terms each of which having 1 usage

15:29:16 <fadmaa> ... and interest in using it later

... and interest in using it later

15:29:54 <fadmaa> ... I'd recommend to proceed with all the terms

... I'd recommend to proceed with all the terms

15:30:04 <fadmaa> ... this was agreed by the WG

... this was agreed by the WG

15:30:46 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we got contacted by a user who is willing to help the WG with the Org ontology

Dave Reynolds: we got contacted by a user who is willing to help the WG with the Org ontology

15:30:52 <fadmaa> ... a bit late for our time

... a bit late for our time

15:31:03 <fadmaa> ... but that's evidence of interest

... but that's evidence of interest

15:31:12 <fadmaa> ... they promise to contact the list

... they promise to contact the list

15:31:33 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

15:32:11 <fadmaa> sandro: I don't see a link from TR to the comments page on ORG

Sandro Hawke: I don't see a link from TR to the comments page on ORG

15:32:22 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: there were no issues raised durng the CR period

Dave Reynolds: there were no issues raised durng the CR period

15:32:33 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida

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15:32:41 <fadmaa> sandro: any relevant emails other than implementation reports?

Sandro Hawke: any relevant emails other than implementation reports?

15:32:46 <Zakim> +??P11

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15:32:48 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P11 is me

Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P11 is me

15:32:48 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

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15:32:50 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I'll double check

Dave Reynolds: I'll double check

15:33:06 <fadmaa> ... may be clarifications requests

... may be clarifications requests

15:33:19 <fadmaa> sandro: it is helpful to have these in a page

Sandro Hawke: it is helpful to have these in a page

15:33:24 <gatemezi> Dave , I have a small implementation that might be useful..see a small sample here http://goo.gl/fvEF21 ...with an application here http://semantics.eurecom.fr/datalift/Equipment/

Ghislain Atemezing: Dave , I have a small implementation that might be useful..see a small sample here http://goo.gl/fvEF21 ...with an application here http://semantics.eurecom.fr/datalift/Equipment/

15:33:25 <fadmaa> ... linked from the TR

... linked from the TR

15:33:36 <gatemezi> I will send you an email

Ghislain Atemezing: I will send you an email

15:33:47 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I'll do the same for the Data Cube

Dave Reynolds: I'll do the same for the Data Cube

15:34:06 <fadmaa> sandro: it's good to have such a page even if there were no issues

Sandro Hawke: it's good to have such a page even if there were no issues

15:34:20 <sandro> sandro: The Director will want to see a Disposition of Comments page, even if it is "There were no comments"

Sandro Hawke: The Director will want to see a Disposition of Comments page, even if it is "There were no comments" [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:34:40 <fadmaa> Proposed: transition ORG to proposed recommendation

PROPOSED: transition ORG to proposed recommendation

15:34:43 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

15:34:44 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds

Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds

15:34:53 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

15:34:55 <Biplav> +1

Biplav Srivastava: +1

15:34:56 <DaveReynolds> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1

15:34:58 <tinagheen> +1

Tina Gheen: +1

15:34:59 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

15:35:00 <fadmaa> +1

+1

15:35:08 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

15:35:27 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

15:35:44 <fadmaa> resolved: transition ORG to proposed recommendation

RESOLVED: transition ORG to proposed recommendation

15:35:49 <bhyland> Double whoot! really well done guys.  Grazie mille

Bernadette Hyland: Double whoot! really well done guys. Grazie mille

15:35:58 <sandro> congratulations again!

Sandro Hawke: congratulations again!

15:35:58 <fadmaa> great!

great!

15:37:07 <HadleyBeeman> Well done, davreynolds and cygri!!

Hadley Beeman: Well done, davereynolds and cygri!!

15:37:24 <HadleyBeeman> s/davreynolds/davereynolds
15:37:56 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: These seem to be specialist vocabs, where lots of people don't care very much, but some people need them a lot.

Hadley Beeman: These seem to be specialist vocabs, where lots of people don't care very much, but some people need them a lot. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:38:38 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: Editors please comments page & transition requestions in 24 hrs, then chairs will send these out.

Hadley Beeman: Editors please comments page & transition requestions in 24 hrs, then chairs will send these out. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:39:25 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

15:40:01 <HadleyBeeman> hadleybeeman: We'll Send out transition requests to W3M and W3C chairs tomorrow

Hadley Beeman: We'll Send out transition requests to W3M and W3C chairs tomorrow [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

15:40:01 <HadleyBeeman> We'll arrange transition meetings (to include editors)

Hadley Beeman: We'll arrange transition meetings (to include editors)

15:40:01 <HadleyBeeman>

Hadley Beeman:

15:41:38 <bhyland> Last day for publications is Dec 17th.

Bernadette Hyland: Last day for publications is Dec 17th.

15:41:55 <bhyland> If request comes in tomorrow, we can meet 13 or 16-Dec '13

Bernadette Hyland: If request comes in tomorrow, we can meet 13 or 16-Dec '13

15:42:16 <fadmaa> +1

+1

15:42:39 <fadmaa> sandro: can the editors do the required changes in teh next 24 hours?

Sandro Hawke: can the editors do the required changes in teh next 24 hours?

15:42:45 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: yes

Dave Reynolds: yes

15:42:52 <fadmaa> yes

yes

15:43:02 <HadleyBeeman> topic: Best practices

5. Best practices

15:43:11 <bhyland> Report on status of Best Practices doc:

Bernadette Hyland: Report on status of Best Practices doc:

15:43:11 <bhyland> The editors believe we've resolved all reported issues in Tracker, including Issue-6

Bernadette Hyland: The editors believe we've resolved all reported issues in Tracker, including ISSUE-6

15:43:11 <bhyland>

Bernadette Hyland:

15:43:11 <bhyland> We've folded in the master normative & informative references but there is one more to add [Wood2011]

Bernadette Hyland: We've folded in the master normative & informative references but there is one more to add [Wood2011]

15:43:11 <bhyland>

Bernadette Hyland:

15:43:11 <bhyland> The work to link to the Linked Data Glossary is still outstanding, but isn't a material change.

Bernadette Hyland: The work to link to the Linked Data Glossary is still outstanding, but isn't a material change.

15:43:11 <bhyland>

Bernadette Hyland:

15:43:12 <bhyland> Editors still must address the most recent feedback (Nov/Dec 2013) from Dave Reynolds, João Paulo Almeida, John Erickson & Richard Cyganiak which are very important.

Bernadette Hyland: Editors still must address the most recent feedback (Nov/Dec 2013) from Dave Reynolds, João Paulo Almeida, John Erickson & Richard Cyganiak which are very important.

15:43:12 <bhyland>

Bernadette Hyland:

15:43:12 <bhyland> I feel the URI Construction section is not complete. It is insufficient & I personally want to improve it. URI Construction section needs at a minimum references to RPI's design principals, Dutch Gov't reference, as well as informative guidance.

Bernadette Hyland: I feel the URI Construction section is not complete. It is insufficient & I personally want to improve it. URI Construction section needs at a minimum references to RPI's design principals, Dutch Gov't reference, as well as informative guidance.

15:43:13 <bhyland>

Bernadette Hyland:

15:43:13 <bhyland> Do we need a disposition of comments for this WG Note? I feel this may help with transition to the next Web Best Practices WG.

Bernadette Hyland: Do we need a disposition of comments for this WG Note? I feel this may help with transition to the next Web Best Practices WG.

15:43:42 <fadmaa> bhyland: thanks Dave for the comments

Bernadette Hyland: thanks Dave for the comments

15:44:00 <fadmaa> ... editors resolved all the issues recorded on the tracker

... editors resolved all the issues recorded on the tracker

15:44:16 <fadmaa> ... we got quite a bit of feedback

... we got quite a bit of feedback

15:44:38 <fadmaa> ... we still need to review the document

... we still need to review the document

15:44:52 <fadmaa> ... an important section taht I'd like to improve is the URI construction

... an important section that I'd like to improve is the URI construction

15:45:04 <Biplav> Request to consider comments I sent earlier. Some still relevant/ unaddressed. At http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0029.html

Biplav Srivastava: Request to consider comments I sent earlier. Some still relevant/ unaddressed. At http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0029.html

15:45:15 <gatemezi> s/taht/that
15:46:11 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

15:46:21 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q-

15:46:49 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: from teh next WG perspective, the more organised the work the easier for the next WG

Hadley Beeman: from teh next WG perspective, the more organised the work the easier for the next WG

15:47:06 <fadmaa> ... I am more concerned about getting our work finished in this WG

... I am more concerned about getting our work finished in this WG

15:47:19 <gatemezi> Thanks Biplav..we will look at it closely. At the mean time, could you look at the current version of the doc at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html#sumbp. TIA

Ghislain Atemezing: Thanks Biplav..we will look at it closely. At the mean time, could you look at the current version of the doc at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html#sumbp. TIA

15:47:39 <fadmaa> ... the question is more to the editors whether the quality is good enough even if the scope is not as wide as we might like

... the question is more to the editors whether the quality is good enough even if the scope is not as wide as we might like

15:48:02 <Biplav> q+

Biplav Srivastava: q+

15:48:11 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida

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15:48:23 <fadmaa> bhyland: best practices document can be reviewed. I encourage people to do so

Bernadette Hyland: best practices document can be reviewed. I encourage people to do so

15:48:28 <Zakim> +??P11

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P11

15:48:35 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P11 is me

Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P11 is me

15:48:35 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

15:48:36 <fadmaa> ... I want to change the section on the URI construction

... I want to change the section on the URI construction

15:49:22 <DaveReynolds> q+

Dave Reynolds: q+

15:49:50 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: changes to the document is more important than organising the comments IMO

Hadley Beeman: changes to the document is more important than organising the comments IMO

15:50:10 <bhyland> For example, choosing entity URIs is only "notes" quality, https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html#howto

Bernadette Hyland: For example, choosing entity URIs is only "notes" quality, https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html#howto

15:50:23 <fadmaa> ... is it possible to do the changes to the URI construction section by next Monday?

... is it possible to do the changes to the URI construction section by next Monday?

15:51:09 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: I mean having a stable version of the document to review by Monday?

Hadley Beeman: I mean having a stable version of the document to review by Monday?

15:51:11 <fadmaa> bhyland: yes

Bernadette Hyland: yes

15:51:13 <HadleyBeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

15:51:31 <HadleyBeeman> q-

Hadley Beeman: q-

15:51:38 <fadmaa> gatemezi: I think we addressed most of the comments we received

Ghislain Atemezing: I think we addressed most of the comments we received

15:51:51 <fadmaa> ... I believe we can have a stable version by next week

... I believe we can have a stable version by next week

15:52:06 <fadmaa> Biplav: the BP document is extremely valuable

Biplav Srivastava: the BP document is extremely valuable

15:52:39 <fadmaa> ... even if there are some pieces which are incomplete, I'd suggest having a section that indicate non-polished sections

... even if there are some pieces which are incomplete, I'd suggest having a section that indicate non-polished sections

15:52:48 <fadmaa> ... the next WG can take it from there

... the next WG can take it from there

15:53:07 <fadmaa> ... let's have coloured sections indicating where further work is needed

... let's have coloured sections indicating where further work is needed

15:53:14 <fadmaa> bhyland: that's good idea

Bernadette Hyland: that's good idea

15:53:35 <HadleyBeeman> ack biplav

Hadley Beeman: ack biplav

15:53:51 <HadleyBeeman> ack dave

Hadley Beeman: ack dave

15:54:33 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: in addition to talking about individual sections, I suggest we have an indication in the abstract that this document is unfinished

Dave Reynolds: in addition to talking about individual sections, I suggest we have an indication in the abstract that this document is unfinished

15:55:02 <fadmaa> ... to set the reader's expectation and indicate that furhter changes might be introduced

... to set the reader's expectation and indicate that furhter changes might be introduced

15:55:40 <fadmaa> ACTION: bhyland to indicate in the BP abstract that the document is unfinished and is subject to change

ACTION: bhyland to indicate in the BP abstract that the document is unfinished and is subject to change

15:55:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-156 - Indicate in the bp abstract that the document is unfinished and is subject to change [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2013-12-12].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-156 - Indicate in the bp abstract that the document is unfinished and is subject to change [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2013-12-12].

15:58:21 <fadmaa> thanks all! a great meeting!

thanks all! a great meeting!

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15:58:40 <HadleyBeeman> thank you, fadmaa and sandro for scribing!!

Hadley Beeman: thank you, fadmaa and sandro for scribing!!

15:58:50 <fadmaa> RRSAgent, generate minutes

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15:58:55 <Zakim> -biplav

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15:58:56 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended

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15:58:56 <Zakim> Attendees were HadleyBeeman, +3539149aaaa, +33.4.93.00.aabb, fadmaa, bhyland, JoaoPauloAlmeida, Sandro, gatemazi, biplav, tinagheen, deirdrelee, DaveReynolds

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15:58:58 <fadmaa> RRSAgent, make minutes public

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16:01:44 <bhyland> @Hadley, that was a rockin' GLD WG call, congrats & thanks for pushing things forward!  Well done.

Bernadette Hyland: @Hadley, that was a rockin' GLD WG call, congrats & thanks for pushing things forward! Well done.



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