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Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 07 November 2013

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20131107
Seen
Dave Reynolds, Fadi Maali, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, Sandro Hawke, Ted Thibodeau
Scribe
Fadi Maali
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Close issue-69 as editorial fix, as per Dave's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0007.html link
Topics
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15:01:46 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
15:01:46 <trackbot> Date: 07 November 2013
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15:01:51 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
15:01:51 <trackbot> Date: 07 November 2013
15:02:46 <fadmaa> Zakim, who is here?

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15:02:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see no one

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15:02:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see fadmaa, Zakim, RRSAgent, HadleyBeeman, gatemezi, bhyland, TallTed, trackbot, sandro

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15:03:22 <HadleyBeeman> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20131107
15:03:29 <HadleyBeeman> scribe: fadmaa

(Scribe set to Fadi Maali)

15:03:53 <HadleyBeeman> proposed:  accept minutes from previous meeting http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-10-31

PROPOSED: accept minutes from previous meeting http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-10-31

15:06:39 <gatemezi> +1 , thx Sandro

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 , thx Sandro

15:06:43 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

15:07:08 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, this is gld

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15:07:08 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, this was already T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM

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15:07:08 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the phone?

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15:07:09 <Zakim> ok, HadleyBeeman; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM

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15:07:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see no one

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15:07:27 <sandro> +Sandro

Sandro Hawke: +Sandro

15:07:30 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the phone?

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15:07:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see no one

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15:08:30 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Data Cube

1. Data Cube

15:08:53 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: issue-69 there was an error in one of the queries

Dave Reynolds: ISSUE-69 there was an error in one of the queries

15:09:08 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me

15:09:08 <Zakim> sorry, fadmaa, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

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15:10:07 <TallTed> Zakim, code?

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, code?

15:10:07 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), TallTed

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), TallTed

15:10:22 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: in practice this only affects dataset that has multiple cubes

Dave Reynolds: in practice this only affects dataset that has multiple cubes

15:10:42 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: this doesn't affect all the report we have so far

Dave Reynolds: this doesn't affect all the report we have so far

15:11:06 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I proposed to the mailing list to accept this as editorial

Dave Reynolds: I proposed to the mailing list to accept this as editorial

15:11:24 <fadmaa> ... and propose to close issue 69

... and propose to close ISSUE-69

15:11:30 <fadmaa> issue-69?

ISSUE-69?

15:11:30 <trackbot> issue-69 -- Typo in IC-8 rule -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-69 -- Typo in IC-8 rule -- raised

15:11:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/69

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/69

15:12:01 <fadmaa> PROPOSAL: close issue 69 as editorial fix

PROPOSED: close ISSUE-69 as editorial fix

15:12:18 <DaveReynolds> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0007.html

Dave Reynolds: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0007.html

15:12:25 <sandro> PROPOSED: Close issue-69 as editorial fix, as per Dave's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0007.html

PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-69 as editorial fix, as per Dave's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0007.html

15:12:29 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

15:12:31 <fadmaa> +1

+1

15:12:32 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

15:12:32 <DaveReynolds> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1

15:12:37 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

15:12:42 <sandro> RESOLVED: Close issue-69 as editorial fix, as per Dave's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0007.html

RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-69 as editorial fix, as per Dave's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0007.html

15:12:46 <TallTed> +1

Ted Thibodeau: +1

15:13:06 <DaveReynolds> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Implementations

Dave Reynolds: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Implementations

15:13:38 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I have had a good response so far regarding implementation report on Data Cube as documented at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Implementations

Dave Reynolds: I have had a good response so far regarding implementation report on Data Cube as documented at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Implementations

15:13:59 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we now have 5 full validated implementation report

Dave Reynolds: we now have 5 full validated implementation report

15:15:07 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: at the bottom of the page we tracked "additional properties" that are not tested in the integrity checks

Dave Reynolds: at the bottom of the page we tracked "additional properties" that are not tested in the integrity checks

15:15:32 <fadmaa> ... all are used so far apart from HierarchicalCodeList

... all are used so far apart from HierarchicalCodeList

15:16:21 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: it was requested by some people but I haven't got any implementation report that use them

Dave Reynolds: it was requested by some people but I haven't got any implementation report that use them

15:17:10 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: It is not part of the formal exit criteria to use each property

Dave Reynolds: It is not part of the formal exit criteria to use each property

15:17:32 <fadmaa> ... but it would be worrisome not to have any implementation that use them

... but it would be worrisome not to have any implementation that use them

15:17:43 <HadleyBeeman> … and Ralph/Thomas asked us to keep track of their use, in the transition meeting to CR

Hadley Beeman: … and Ralph/Thomas asked us to keep track of their use, in the transition meeting to CR

15:19:03 <fadmaa> sandro: from a user perspective, it'd be helpful to have a note stating that this property is rarely used

Sandro Hawke: from a user perspective, it'd be helpful to have a note stating that this property is rarely used

15:19:09 <fadmaa> ... as people usually use SKOS

... as people usually use SKOS

15:19:43 <DaveReynolds> http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-data-cube/#schemes-hierarchy-nonskos

Dave Reynolds: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-data-cube/#schemes-hierarchy-nonskos

15:20:01 <DaveReynolds> In the case where a code list is already available as a SKOS concept scheme or collection, or could reasonable me made so, then those should be used directly. qb:HierarchicalCodeList is provided for cases where the terms are not available as SKOS but are available in some other RDF representation suitable for reuse.

Dave Reynolds: In the case where a code list is already available as a SKOS concept scheme or collection, or could reasonable me made so, then those should be used directly. qb:HierarchicalCodeList is provided for cases where the terms are not available as SKOS but are available in some other RDF representation suitable for reuse.

15:21:16 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, pointer?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, pointer?

15:21:16 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, HadleyBeeman.

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15:21:18 <gatemezi> q+

Ghislain Atemezing: q+

15:21:20 <HadleyBeeman> trackbot, pointer?

Hadley Beeman: trackbot, pointer?

15:21:20 <trackbot> Sorry, HadleyBeeman, I don't understand 'trackbot, pointer?'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.

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15:21:30 <HadleyBeeman>  RRSagent, pointer?

Hadley Beeman: RRSagent, pointer?

15:21:30 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2013/11/07-gld-irc#T15-21-30

RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2013/11/07-gld-irc#T15-21-30

15:21:53 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we don't need to discuss this more now but I wanted to flag it

Dave Reynolds: we don't need to discuss this more now but I wanted to flag it

15:22:08 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we can decide later on it in case we don't get any implementation report

Dave Reynolds: we can decide later on it in case we don't get any implementation report

15:22:51 <fadmaa> gatemezi: can different hierarchies be mapped to a SKOS one?

Ghislain Atemezing: can different hierarchies be mapped to a SKOS one?

15:23:01 <fadmaa> ... e.g. geographic

... e.g. geographic

15:23:40 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: yes possible but skos narrower and broader are not always enough to cover all hierarchical relation such as overlap,

Dave Reynolds: yes possible but skos narrower and broader are not always enough to cover all hierarchical relation such as overlap,

15:24:30 <fadmaa> * sorry meant scribe

* sorry meant scribe

15:25:33 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open

15:25:51 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: let's review open actions regarding Data Cube

Hadley Beeman: let's review open actions regarding Data Cube

15:26:12 <fadmaa> ... we have no open issues but a couple of actions

... we have no open issues but a couple of actions

15:26:24 <sandro> close action-102

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-102

15:26:25 <trackbot> Closed action-102.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-102.

15:26:45 <sandro> close action-142

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-142

15:26:45 <trackbot> Closed action-142.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-142.

15:27:03 <sandro> close action-151

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-151

15:27:03 <trackbot> Closed action-151.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-151.

15:27:08 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: actions 102, 142, 151 are all done and can be colsed

Hadley Beeman: actions 102, 142, 151 are all done and can be closed

15:27:26 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Org Vocabulary

2. Org Vocabulary

15:27:51 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I had a good response back during the last week

Dave Reynolds: I had a good response back during the last week

15:27:55 <DaveReynolds> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Implementations#Org_implementations

Dave Reynolds: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Implementations#Org_implementations

15:27:57 <HadleyBeeman> s/colsed/closed
15:27:59 <fadmaa> ... regarding implementation reports

... regarding implementation reports

15:28:05 <gatemezi> Congrats for all the feedback on ORG

Ghislain Atemezing: Congrats for all the feedback on ORG

15:28:31 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I kept track of which terms are used by whom at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Implementations#Org_implementations

Dave Reynolds: I kept track of which terms are used by whom at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Implementations#Org_implementations

15:29:01 <fadmaa> ... some of them are planned to be used in the future

... some of them are planned to be used in the future

15:29:33 <fadmaa> ... we now have enough implementation reports

... we now have enough implementation reports

15:29:58 <fadmaa> ... however we don't have every term used by two implementations

... however we don't have every term used by two implementations

15:30:07 <fadmaa> ... example subOrganizationOf

... example subOrganizationOf

15:31:10 <fadmaa> ... what would be better in such case: keeping such terms and going to PR without implementation evidence or taking them out

... what would be better in such case: keeping such terms and going to PR without implementation evidence or taking them out

15:31:26 <fadmaa> sandro: we need to discuss that

Sandro Hawke: we need to discuss that

15:31:41 <fadmaa> sandro: this seems more for querying than for publishing for me

Sandro Hawke: the term seems more for querying than for publishing for me

15:31:50 <fadmaa> s/this/the term/
15:32:21 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: yes. for this particular term we can argue it is used indirectly

Dave Reynolds: yes. for this particular term we can argue it is used indirectly

15:32:29 <fadmaa> ... not materialized

... not materialized

15:32:30 <TallTed> +1 for that argument

Ted Thibodeau: +1 for that argument

15:33:05 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: this leaves the term OrganizationalCollaboration

Dave Reynolds: this leaves the term OrganizationalCollaboration

15:33:29 <fadmaa> ... three groups said they plan to use

... three groups said they plan to use

15:33:35 <fadmaa> ... but not currently

... but not currently

15:35:55 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: do we still need to re-asses whether we change ORG to a note?

Hadley Beeman: do we still need to re-asses whether we change ORG to a note?

15:36:00 <fadmaa> sandro: no

Sandro Hawke: no

15:36:02 <HadleyBeeman> actions : http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open

Hadley Beeman: actions : http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open

15:36:04 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: no

Dave Reynolds: no

15:36:40 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Best Practices

3. Best Practices

15:37:02 <fadmaa> gatemezi: I sent an email detailing some closed issues

Ghislain Atemezing: I sent an email detailing some closed issues

15:37:10 <sandro> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html

Sandro Hawke: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html

15:37:41 <fadmaa> gatemezi: we added some description to the open data lifecycle

Ghislain Atemezing: we added some description to the open data lifecycle

15:37:44 <HadleyBeeman> gatemezi's email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0017.html

Hadley Beeman: gatemezi's email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0017.html

15:38:19 <fadmaa> gatemezi: not sure what to add to section 4 on using SKOS

Ghislain Atemezing: not sure what to add to section 4 on using SKOS

15:38:20 <sandro> q+ about respec and references

Sandro Hawke: q+ about respec and references

15:38:26 <fadmaa> ... need some input on this

... need some input on this

15:38:27 <sandro> q+ to talk about respec and references

Sandro Hawke: q+ to talk about respec and references

15:38:59 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: is the problem with the content or with the inclusion of that section in the first place?

Hadley Beeman: is the problem with the content or with the inclusion of that section in the first place?

15:39:14 <fadmaa> gatemezi: mainly with the content

Ghislain Atemezing: mainly with the content

15:39:47 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: why SKOS and not other vocabularies?

Hadley Beeman: why SKOS and not other vocabularies?

15:40:10 <sandro> q+ to suggest dropping 5. Is your Linked Data Vocabulary 5-star?

Sandro Hawke: q+ to suggest dropping 5. Is your Linked Data Vocabulary 5-star?

15:40:42 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: I'll leave it to the editors to decide as we have no input or suggestions currently from teh WG

Hadley Beeman: I'll leave it to the editors to decide as we have no input or suggestions currently from the WG

15:40:47 <fadmaa> s/teh/the/
15:40:59 <DaveReynolds> Doesn't make much sense to me to have a section on how to use SKOS, that's a job for the SKOS documents. I would suggest dropping or just pointing out the relevance of skos and pointing to the docs.

Dave Reynolds: Doesn't make much sense to me to have a section on how to use SKOS, that's a job for the SKOS documents. I would suggest dropping or just pointing out the relevance of skos and pointing to the docs.

15:42:24 <fadmaa> +1 I also find it confusing

+1 I also find it confusing

15:42:30 <DaveReynolds> +1 to Sandro, keep "5 star" for linked data

Dave Reynolds: +1 to Sandro, keep "5 star" for linked data

15:42:31 <fadmaa> especially the fifth star

especially the fifth star

15:42:32 <HadleyBeeman> +1 me too

Hadley Beeman: +1 me too

15:44:08 <fadmaa> sandro: this seems to consider non-linkeddata vocabulary

Sandro Hawke: this seems to consider non-linkeddata vocabulary

15:44:20 <fadmaa> ... especially the first three stars

... especially the first three stars

15:44:47 <fadmaa> ... having a mini checklist looks better though the next section seems to have that

... having a mini checklist looks better though the next section seems to have that

15:45:26 <fadmaa> gatemezi: we can take the stars off and change the style

Ghislain Atemezing: we can take the stars off and change the style

15:45:31 <HadleyBeeman> ack sandro

Hadley Beeman: ack sandro

15:45:31 <Zakim> sandro, you wanted to talk about respec and references and to suggest dropping 5. Is your Linked Data Vocabulary 5-star?

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, you wanted to talk about respec and references and to suggest dropping 5. Is your Linked Data Vocabulary 5-star?

15:46:22 <HadleyBeeman> email exchange re respec: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0003.html

Hadley Beeman: email exchange re respec: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0003.html

15:46:29 <fadmaa> sandro: with the new respec we use only one global bibliography

Sandro Hawke: with the new respec we use only one global bibliography

15:46:49 <fadmaa> ... the BP document seems to still use the old version of respec

... the BP document seems to still use the old version of respec

15:47:23 <sandro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0005.html

Sandro Hawke: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Nov/0005.html

15:47:36 <sandro> (explanation of shared biblio)

Sandro Hawke: (explanation of shared biblio)

15:47:37 <HadleyBeeman> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6

Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6

15:47:44 <sandro> issue-6?

Sandro Hawke: ISSUE-6?

15:47:44 <trackbot> issue-6 -- How should publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-6 -- How should publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised

15:47:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6

15:48:03 <fadmaa> q+

q+

15:48:20 <HadleyBeeman> ack fadmaa

Hadley Beeman: ack fadmaa

15:49:07 <fadmaa> gatemezi: issue still open

Ghislain Atemezing: issue still open

15:50:29 <sandro> close action-86

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-86

15:50:29 <trackbot> Closed action-86.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-86.

15:50:42 <sandro> close action-87

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-87

15:50:42 <trackbot> Closed action-87.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-87.

15:50:46 <sandro> close action-88

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-88

15:50:46 <trackbot> Closed action-88.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-88.

15:50:55 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: we just discussed action 86 it can be closed

Hadley Beeman: we just discussed ACTION-86 it can be closed

15:51:01 <sandro> close action-95

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-95

15:51:01 <trackbot> Closed action-95.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-95.

15:51:03 <sandro> close action-103

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-103

15:51:03 <trackbot> Closed action-103.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-103.

15:51:27 <sandro> close action-143

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-143

15:51:27 <trackbot> Closed action-143.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-143.

15:52:01 <sandro> close action-152

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-152

15:52:02 <trackbot> Closed action-152.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-152.

15:52:03 <sandro> close action-153

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-153

15:52:03 <trackbot> Closed action-153.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-153.

15:52:07 <fadmaa> TOPIC: DCAT

4. DCAT

15:52:38 <DaveReynolds> Yes, congratulations on getting DCAT through to CR!

Dave Reynolds: Yes, congratulations on getting DCAT through to CR!

15:54:08 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa: Can we change the description of properties in the document?  Can we still do editorial changes?

Fadi Maali: Can we change the description of properties in the document? Can we still do editorial changes? [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

15:54:30 <HadleyBeeman> Sandro: yes, as long as it's not going to change any implementations or make anyone unhappy with the document.

Sandro Hawke: yes, as long as it's not going to change any implementations or make anyone unhappy with the document. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

15:55:05 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa: Okay, there are two things.  DCAT doesn't support versioning and we won't be adding it.  There was a suggestion to clarify the description of lastUpdate.  I'll ask again for feedback.

Fadi Maali: Okay, there are two things. DCAT doesn't support versioning and we won't be adding it. There was a suggestion to clarify the description of lastUpdate. I'll ask again for feedback. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

15:56:01 <HadleyBeeman> …  Second: Comments from Leigh Dodds:  I've partially addressed his concerns.  He'd still like links next to each term with possible value to be used.  Ex: for countries, possibly could be used with geonames.

Hadley Beeman: … Second: Comments from Leigh Dodds: I've partially addressed his concerns. He'd still like links next to each term with possible value to be used. Ex: for countries, possibly could be used with geonames.

15:56:38 <HadleyBeeman> … Do you think it's a good idea to include links next to each property of possible values to be used with that property?

Hadley Beeman: … Do you think it's a good idea to include links next to each property of possible values to be used with that property?

15:57:16 <HadleyBeeman> gatemezi:  Should that go into the BP doc?  We aren't recommending geonames.

Ghislain Atemezing: Should that go into the BP doc? We aren't recommending geonames. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

15:57:30 <HadleyBeeman> Sandro:  We can put a link as long as using that vocabulary isn't required.  It's a non-normative reference.

Sandro Hawke: We can put a link as long as using that vocabulary isn't required. It's a non-normative reference. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

15:57:51 <HadleyBeeman> gatemezi:  In that case, for me — it's okay.

Ghislain Atemezing: In that case, for me — it's okay. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

15:57:53 <sandro> sandro: Not telling people what they SHOULD or MUST do, just something they MIGHT do.

Sandro Hawke: Not telling people what they SHOULD or MUST do, just something they MIGHT do. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:58:16 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa:  My concern is that this might result in a long discussion without clear criteria on how to select these.

Fadi Maali: My concern is that this might result in a long discussion without clear criteria on how to select these. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

15:59:10 <HadleyBeeman> Hadley:  I'm concerned about the time we have left

Hadley Beeman: I'm concerned about the time we have left [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

15:59:20 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa: Okay, I'll reply to Leigh about this.

Fadi Maali: Okay, I'll reply to Leigh about this. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

15:59:41 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Implementations

http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Implementations

16:00:11 <HadleyBeeman> … most of the implementations on the table are using an older version.  I have a few people promising to update their implementations.

Hadley Beeman: … most of the implementations on the table are using an older version. I have a few people promising to update their implementations.

16:00:26 <HadleyBeeman> … Things aren't as bright as for ORG and Data Cube, but I think we have enough to meet CR criteria.

Hadley Beeman: … Things aren't as bright as for ORG and Data Cube, but I think we have enough to meet CR criteria.

16:00:46 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open

16:01:12 <HadleyBeeman> action-69?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-69?

16:01:12 <trackbot> action-69 -- Richard Cyganiak to Create wiki page for void-dcat mapping -- due 2012-05-10 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-69 -- Richard Cyganiak to Create wiki page for void-dcat mapping -- due 2012-05-10 -- OPEN

16:01:12 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/69

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/69

16:01:45 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa: People are asking about this.  We don't have it documented anywhere.

Fadi Maali: People are asking about this. We don't have it documented anywhere. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

16:02:10 <HadleyBeeman> sandro: this action reminds me of the table on the schema.org version of the DCAT page which compares all three terminologies.  I found that useful.

Sandro Hawke: this action reminds me of the table on the schema.org version of the DCAT page which compares all three terminologies. I found that useful. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

16:02:42 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets

http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets

16:02:43 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets

Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets

16:02:45 <DaveReynolds> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets#Related_vocabularies

Dave Reynolds: http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets#Related_vocabularies

16:03:11 <HadleyBeeman> … ADMS is there too.  I don't know how accurate this is...

Hadley Beeman: … ADMS is there too. I don't know how accurate this is...

16:03:27 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa:  DCAT datasets and VoiD datasets may not be the same.

Fadi Maali: DCAT datasets and VoiD datasets may not be the same. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

16:03:48 <HadleyBeeman> sandro:  this may be the subject of a blog post or something.  Would be useful to have written authoritatviely.

Sandro Hawke: this may be the subject of a blog post or something. Would be useful to have written authoritatviely. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

16:04:44 <HadleyBeeman> action fadi to draft a blog post for the W3C semantic web blog or working group note comparing DCAT, VOID (and possibly schema.org and ADMS)

Hadley Beeman: action fadi to draft a blog post for the W3C semantic web blog or working group note comparing DCAT, VOID (and possibly schema.org and ADMS)

16:04:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-154 - Draft a blog post for the w3c semantic web blog or working group note comparing dcat, void (and possibly schema.org and adms) [on Fadi Maali - due 2013-11-14].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-154 - Draft a blog post for the w3c semantic web blog or working group note comparing dcat, void (and possibly schema.org and adms) [on Fadi Maali - due 2013-11-14].

16:05:24 <HadleyBeeman> gatemezi: Fadi, you can ask for other vocabularies maybe that people might use?

Ghislain Atemezing: Fadi, you can ask for other vocabularies maybe that people might use? [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

16:05:35 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa:  not sure if that should go in the same blog post.

Fadi Maali: not sure if that should go in the same blog post. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

16:06:00 <sandro> close action-69

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-69

16:06:00 <trackbot> Closed action-69.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-69.

16:06:37 <sandro> action-77?

Sandro Hawke: ACTION-77?

16:06:37 <trackbot> action-77 -- Fadi Maali to Include text in DCAT to point to the BP doc, with link to the issue in the interim -- due 2013-05-30 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-77 -- Fadi Maali to Include text in DCAT to point to the BP doc, with link to the issue in the interim -- due 2013-05-30 -- OPEN

16:06:37 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/77

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/77

16:07:38 <HadleyBeeman> fadmaa: if the BP doc include guidance on how to select values for properties, then linking would be useful.

Fadi Maali: if the BP doc include guidance on how to select values for properties, then linking would be useful. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

16:07:44 <HadleyBeeman> sandro: we can't link until it's published.

Sandro Hawke: we can't link until it's published. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

16:07:59 <HadleyBeeman> … so we should keep this action open until bp is published and see.

Hadley Beeman: … so we should keep this action open until bp is published and see.

16:08:58 <sandro> close action-108

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-108

16:08:58 <trackbot> Closed action-108.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-108.

16:09:08 <sandro> action-112?

Sandro Hawke: ACTION-112?

16:09:08 <trackbot> action-112 -- Fadi Maali to Organize a call with people who are able to help resolve open DCAT issues. -- due 2013-04-18 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-112 -- Fadi Maali to Organize a call with people who are able to help resolve open DCAT issues. -- due 2013-04-18 -- OPEN

16:09:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/112

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/112

16:09:12 <sandro> close action-112

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-112

16:09:12 <trackbot> Closed action-112.

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16:09:30 <sandro> close action-120

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-120

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16:09:52 <sandro> close action-124

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-124

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16:10:07 <sandro> close action-140

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-140

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16:10:34 <sandro> close action-144

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-144

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16:10:40 <sandro> close action-146

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-146

16:10:41 <trackbot> Closed action-146.

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16:11:08 <sandro> close action-150

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-150

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16:12:05 <sandro> close action-122

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-122

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16:12:22 <HadleyBeeman> sandro, tell Zakim I hope he's feeling better soon. :)

Hadley Beeman: sandro, tell Zakim I hope he's feeling better soon. :)

16:12:27 <sandro> :)

Sandro Hawke: :)

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16:12:31 <Zakim> Attendees were

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16:13:55 <fadmaa> RRSAgent, generate minutes

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