14:00:58 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-gld-irc
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14:00:59 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:01:02 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
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14:01:02 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started
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14:01:03 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:01:03 <trackbot> Date: 23 May 2013
14:01:06 <Zakim> +[Mozilla]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[Mozilla] ←
14:01:08 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:01:10 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, mozilla is me
Hadley Beeman: zakim, mozilla is me ←
14:01:10 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman1; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman1; got it ←
14:01:17 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who is here?
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who is here? ←
14:01:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P9, Sandro, HadleyBeeman1, [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P9, Sandro, HadleyBeeman1, [IPcaller] ←
14:01:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, fadmaa, james, gatemezi, olyerickson, hadleybeeman, danbri, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, fadmaa, james, gatemezi, olyerickson, hadleybeeman, danbri, sandro, trackbot ←
14:01:26 <hadleybeeman> zakim, hadleybeeman1 is me
Hadley Beeman: zakim, hadleybeeman1 is me ←
14:01:26 <Zakim> +hadleybeeman; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +hadleybeeman; got it ←
14:01:34 <olyerickson> zakim, [ipcaller] is me.
John Erickson: zakim, [ipcaller] is me. ←
14:01:34 <Zakim> + +91.80.67.84.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +91.80.67.84.aaaa ←
14:01:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
14:01:34 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it ←
14:01:34 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, ??P9 is BenediktKaempgen
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, ??P9 is BenediktKaempgen ←
14:01:35 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen; got it ←
14:02:00 <Zakim> +DeirdreLee
Zakim IRC Bot: +DeirdreLee ←
14:02:11 <fadmaa> Zakim, DeirdreLee is me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, DeirdreLee is me ←
14:02:12 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +fadmaa; got it ←
14:02:14 <PhilA> zakim, code?
Phil Archer: zakim, code? ←
14:02:14 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA ←
14:02:39 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:02:44 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me
Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
14:02:44 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA; got it ←
14:02:45 <hadleybeeman> zakim, deirdrelee is fadmaa
Hadley Beeman: zakim, deirdrelee is fadmaa ←
14:02:46 <Zakim> sorry, hadleybeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'deirdrelee'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, hadleybeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'deirdrelee' ←
14:02:46 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:03:03 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who's on the call?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who's on the call? ←
14:03:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see BenediktKaempgen, Sandro, hadleybeeman, olyerickson, james, +91.80.67.84.aaaa, fadmaa, PhilA, DaveReynolds
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BenediktKaempgen, Sandro, hadleybeeman, olyerickson, james, +91.80.67.84.aaaa, fadmaa, PhilA, DaveReynolds ←
14:03:21 <Zakim> +gatemezi
Zakim IRC Bot: +gatemezi ←
14:03:22 <hadleybeeman> zakim, aaaa is biplav
Hadley Beeman: zakim, aaaa is biplav ←
14:03:23 <Zakim> +biplav; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +biplav; got it ←
14:03:34 <olyerickson> PhilA is an octave lower than everyone else...
John Erickson: PhilA is an octave lower than everyone else... ←
14:04:20 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130523
Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130523 ←
14:04:30 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, mute me ←
14:04:31 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted ←
14:04:35 <olyerickson> +1 fadmaa !
John Erickson: +1 fadmaa ! ←
14:04:36 <fadmaa> scribe: fadmaa
(Scribe set to Fadi Maali)
14:04:43 <PhilA> fadmaa++
Phil Archer: fadmaa++ ←
14:04:43 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-05-16
Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-05-16 ←
14:04:55 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: +MakxDekkers ←
14:05:18 <fadmaa> PROPOSAL: accepting last telco minutes
PROPOSED: accepting last telco minutes ←
14:05:19 <olyerickson> +1 to last week's minutes... well formatted etc
John Erickson: +1 to last week's minutes... well formatted etc ←
14:05:28 <james> +1
James McKinney: +1 ←
14:05:30 <hadleybeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
14:05:31 <DaveReynolds> +1 to minutes
Dave Reynolds: +1 to minutes ←
14:05:34 <gatemezi> +1 to last week's minutes
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to last week's minutes ←
14:05:41 <olyerickson> All Hail the Hail in Mother Englang!
John Erickson: All Hail the Hail in Mother Englang! ←
14:05:49 <Biplav> +1
Biplav Srivastava: +1 ←
14:05:56 <olyerickson> (England...)
John Erickson: (England...) ←
14:05:57 <fadmaa> RESOLUTION: accept last week minutes
RESOLVED: accept last week minutes ←
14:06:09 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Data Cube
14:06:57 <Zakim> +??P4
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P4 ←
14:06:58 <Zakim> +[LC]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[LC] ←
14:07:03 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: for ORG we decided it is not necessary to track all implementations and the use of every term
Dave Reynolds: for ORG we decided it is not necessary to track all implementations and the use of every term ←
14:07:07 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me
Tina Gheen: Zakim, [LC] is me ←
14:07:07 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +tinagheen; got it ←
14:07:08 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P4 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P4 is me ←
14:07:09 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
14:07:51 <fadmaa> ... exit criteria for SKOS are weaker than we proposed for ORG
... exit criteria for SKOS are weaker than we proposed for ORG ←
14:08:11 <fadmaa> ... marking properties that are not used twice as "at risk" didn't fly
... marking properties that are not used twice as "at risk" didn't fly ←
14:08:39 <fadmaa> ... we decide to track implementations at the feature level
... we decide to track implementations at the feature level ←
14:09:00 <fadmaa> ... I grouped properties in features
... I grouped properties in features ←
14:09:25 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: thanks for all the work Dave
Hadley Beeman: thanks for all the work Dave ←
14:09:39 <gatemezi> s/TOPIC: Data Cube / TOPIC:ORG
Ghislain Atemezing: s/TOPIC: Data Cube / TOPIC:ORG (warning: replacement failed) ←
14:10:38 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we need to clarify the exit criteria
Dave Reynolds: we need to clarify the exit criteria ←
14:11:10 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: for example we can have two implementations of every feature and one implementation for every term
Dave Reynolds: for example we can have two implementations of every feature and one implementation for every term ←
14:11:20 <fadmaa> ... I will write this down in an email
... I will write this down in an email ←
14:11:21 <PhilA> The topic is a report on the transition call yesterday that discussed ORG and QB which we're hoping will move to CR
Phil Archer: The topic is a report on the transition call yesterday that discussed ORG and QB which we're hoping will move to CR ←
14:12:40 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: Given the integrity constraints in data cube, it is more straightforward to define exit criteria
Dave Reynolds: Given the integrity constraints in data cube, it is more straightforward to define exit criteria ←
14:13:07 <fadmaa> ... integrity constraints do not address all the terms
... integrity constraints do not address all the terms ←
14:13:35 <fadmaa> ... tracking all the implementations on the term level for Data Cube is challenging
... tracking all the implementations on the term level for Data Cube is challenging ←
14:13:48 <fadmaa> ... we won't be tracking abstract classes for example
... we won't be tracking abstract classes for example ←
14:14:11 <Zakim> +??P30
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P30 ←
14:14:19 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P30 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??P30 is me ←
14:14:19 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it ←
14:15:13 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: do we need further help regarding the implementation reports and hosting a tool for that?
Hadley Beeman: do we need further help regarding the implementation reports and hosting a tool for that? ←
14:15:38 <hadleybeeman> and executing the CR exit criteria assessment.
Hadley Beeman: and executing the CR exit criteria assessment. ←
14:16:03 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I am not clear on the actual execution
Dave Reynolds: I am not clear on the actual execution ←
14:16:32 <BenediktKaempgen> did we get the report on the transition call per mail?
Benedikt Kaempgen: did we get the report on the transition call per mail? ←
14:16:38 <fadmaa> sandro: Dave and me can discuss via emails, maybe we can find some shortcut
Sandro Hawke: Dave and me can discuss via emails, maybe we can find some shortcut ←
14:17:30 <fadmaa> PhilA: getting into a CR is one thing but getting out of it needs to be kept in mind
Phil Archer: getting into a CR is one thing but getting out of it needs to be kept in mind ←
14:17:35 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: agree
Dave Reynolds: agree ←
14:17:59 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we need a clear idea about the future of the working group
Dave Reynolds: we need a clear idea about the future of the working group ←
14:18:40 <PhilA> DaveReynolds++
Phil Archer: DaveReynolds++ ←
14:18:40 <olyerickson> +1 to DaveReynolds !
John Erickson: +1 to DaveReynolds ! ←
14:18:50 <DaveReynolds> Thanks!
Dave Reynolds: Thanks! ←
14:18:58 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Extension to the working group's charter
14:19:10 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: we have only one week left
Hadley Beeman: we have only one week left ←
14:19:36 <fadmaa> sandro: nothing has changed re. our chances of getting an extension
Sandro Hawke: nothing has changed re. our chances of getting an extension ←
14:19:44 <fadmaa> ... we need to get into a CR
... we need to get into a CR ←
14:19:59 <fadmaa> ... which looks very much doable
... which looks very much doable ←
14:20:27 <fadmaa> ... hard to confirm whether having a CR is sufficient to get an extension
... hard to confirm whether having a CR is sufficient to get an extension ←
14:20:45 <fadmaa> ... we need to wait for a formal meeting which might not happen soon
... we need to wait for a formal meeting which might not happen soon ←
14:21:19 <fadmaa> ... but we still can work for a week or so even before confirming the extension
... but we still can work for a week or so even before confirming the extension ←
14:21:51 <fadmaa> sandro: we need to formally capture that people are willing to continue working on the pending items
Sandro Hawke: we need to formally capture that people are willing to continue working on the pending items ←
14:22:06 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:22:23 <Zakim> +??P4
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P4 ←
14:22:27 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P4 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P4 is me ←
14:22:27 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
14:22:51 <fadmaa> PhilA: there is an approval for the working group that will continue this WG work
Phil Archer: there is an approval for the working group that will continue work in this broad area ←
14:22:58 <fadmaa> ... starting around September
... starting around September ←
14:23:20 <DaveReynolds> s/continue this WG work/continue work in this broad area/
14:23:55 <Biplav> q+
Biplav Srivastava: q+ ←
14:24:10 <gatemezi> @Dave: I'll send you the file and a capture of the error
Ghislain Atemezing: @Dave: I'll send you the file and a capture of the error ←
14:24:24 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: from work perspective, we need to get Cube and Org into PR and DCAT into CR
Hadley Beeman: from work perspective, we need to get Cube and Org into PR and DCAT into CR ←
14:24:36 <fadmaa> ... and get the notes into transition
... and get the notes into transition ←
14:24:58 <Zakim> -olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson ←
14:25:15 <PhilA> ack Biplav
Phil Archer: ack Biplav ←
14:25:18 <olyerickson> sorry lost my skype...
John Erickson: sorry lost my skype... ←
14:25:24 <olyerickson> dialing in again :(
John Erickson: dialing in again :( ←
14:25:32 <olyerickson> +1 to carrying on
John Erickson: +1 to carrying on ←
14:25:53 <fadmaa> Biplav: one direction is to finish remaining work, the other direction is what's next
Biplav Srivastava: one direction is to finish remaining work, the other direction is what's next ←
14:26:14 <fadmaa> Biplav: I found the email from Phil on open API very interesting
Biplav Srivastava: I found the email from Phil on open API very interesting ←
14:26:23 <fadmaa> ... so far we focused only on data
... so far we focused only on data ←
14:26:26 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:26:32 <olyerickson> zakim, I am [ipcaller]
John Erickson: zakim, I am [ipcaller] ←
14:26:32 <Zakim> ok, olyerickson, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, olyerickson, I now associate you with [IPcaller] ←
14:26:45 <Zakim> +??P13
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P13 ←
14:26:50 <olyerickson> I think DCAT will be quick....
John Erickson: I think DCAT will be quick.... ←
14:26:51 <martinA> zakim, ??p13 is me
Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??p13 is me ←
14:26:51 <Zakim> +martinA; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +martinA; got it ←
14:27:47 <Biplav> For some reason, I cannot hear anything
Biplav Srivastava: For some reason, I cannot hear anything ←
14:28:00 <Biplav> Dropping-off, and reconnecting
Biplav Srivastava: Dropping-off, and reconnecting ←
14:28:04 <DaveReynolds> q+
Dave Reynolds: q+ ←
14:28:15 <Zakim> -biplav
Zakim IRC Bot: -biplav ←
14:28:55 <Zakim> + +91.80.67.84.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +91.80.67.84.aabb ←
14:29:20 <Biplav> zakim, aabb is me
Biplav Srivastava: zakim, aabb is me ←
14:29:20 <Zakim> sorry, Biplav, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Biplav, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb' ←
14:29:29 <hadleybeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
14:30:34 <PhilA> q- DaveReynolds
Phil Archer: q- DaveReynolds ←
14:30:34 <DaveReynolds> ack me
Dave Reynolds: ack me ←
14:30:43 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Transition ADMS into Note
14:30:46 <PhilA> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/adms/index.html
Phil Archer: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/adms/index.html ←
14:31:16 <fadmaa> PhilA: I followed up on all the comments that have been made. ADMS is a DCAT profile now
Phil Archer: I followed up on all the comments that have been made. ADMS is a DCAT profile now ←
14:31:48 <fadmaa> PhilA: still waits for DCAT to add contactPoint
Phil Archer: still waits for DCAT to add contactPoint ←
14:32:07 <fadmaa> PhilA: it is being used extensively by the European Commision
Phil Archer: it is being used extensively by the European Commision ←
14:32:34 <fadmaa> ... if there is no comments on it ,I'd like to publish it as a note
... if there is no comments on it ,I'd like to publish it as a note ←
14:32:46 <hadleybeeman> ack sandro
Hadley Beeman: ack sandro ←
14:32:58 <fadmaa> sandro asks about the identifier in ADMS
sandro asks about the identifier in ADMS ←
14:33:18 <MakxDekkers> +1
Makx Dekkers: +1 ←
14:33:19 <olyerickson> re adms:Identifier see: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/adms/index.html#dt_identifier
John Erickson: re adms:Identifier see: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/adms/index.html#dt_identifier ←
14:33:25 <fadmaa> PROPOSAL: transition ADMS to a working group note
PROPOSED: transition ADMS to a working group note ←
14:33:28 <james> +1
James McKinney: +1 ←
14:33:29 <fadmaa> +1
+1 ←
14:33:30 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
14:33:31 <DaveReynolds> +1
Dave Reynolds: +1 ←
14:33:31 <Biplav> +1
Biplav Srivastava: +1 ←
14:33:31 <hadleybeeman> +1 for Sandro
Hadley Beeman: +1 for Sandro ←
14:33:32 <PhilA> sandro says +1
Phil Archer: sandro says +1 ←
14:33:32 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 ←
14:33:33 <PhilA> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
14:33:34 <martinA> +1
Martín Álvarez: +1 ←
14:33:36 <tinagheen> +1
Tina Gheen: +1 ←
14:33:38 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
14:33:38 <olyerickson> +1
John Erickson: +1 ←
14:33:52 <olyerickson> +1 to PhilA !
John Erickson: +1 to PhilA ! ←
14:33:59 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
14:34:17 <fadmaa> RESOLVED: transitioning ADMS into a working group note
RESOLVED: transitioning ADMS into a working group note ←
14:34:37 <fadmaa> sandro: what about the references? dcat is referred to as a working draft
Sandro Hawke: what about the references? dcat is referred to as a working draft ←
14:35:17 <PhilA> topic: RegOrg https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/legal/index.html
14:35:35 <fadmaa> PhilA: RegOrg is now in alignment with Org
Phil Archer: RegOrg is now in alignment with Org ←
14:36:11 <fadmaa> .. it defined some new properties, it refers to ADMS identifier
.. it defined some new properties, it refers to ADMS identifier ←
14:36:28 <fadmaa> ... its main usecase is describing corporates
... its main usecase is describing corporates ←
14:36:45 <fadmaa> ... if no comment on it, I'd like to publish it as a note
... if no comment on it, I'd like to publish it as a note ←
14:37:37 <fadmaa> PROPOSAL: transition RegOrg to a working group note
PROPOSED: transition RegOrg to a working group note ←
14:37:45 <olyerickson> +1
John Erickson: +1 ←
14:37:47 <PhilA> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
14:37:49 <fadmaa> +1
+1 ←
14:37:49 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:37:50 <tinagheen> +1
Tina Gheen: +1 ←
14:37:50 <martinA> +1
Martín Álvarez: +1 ←
14:37:54 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
14:37:55 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
14:38:04 <PhilA> sandro +1
14:38:05 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
14:38:10 <Zakim> +??P4
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P4 ←
14:38:14 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P4 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P4 is me ←
14:38:14 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
14:38:19 <DaveReynolds> +1
Dave Reynolds: +1 ←
14:38:37 <sandro> s/sandro +1/
14:38:38 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:38:42 <olyerickson> Makes reference to org:identifier
John Erickson: Makes reference to org:identifier ←
14:38:56 <olyerickson> is there another browser than Chrome?
John Erickson: is there another browser than Chrome? ←
14:39:00 <fadmaa> gatemezi: the references don't appear on my browser
Ghislain Atemezing: the references don't appear on my browser ←
14:39:11 <fadmaa> PhilA: yes donot appear correctly on Chrome
Phil Archer: yes donot appear correctly on Chrome ←
14:39:16 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 ←
14:39:27 <james> +1
James McKinney: +1 ←
14:39:30 <fadmaa> RESOLVED: transitioning RegOrg into a working group note
RESOLVED: transitioning RegOrg into a working group note ←
14:39:30 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
14:39:40 <PhilA> Thank you everyone
Phil Archer: Thank you everyone ←
14:39:41 <olyerickson> Seriously, this is browser-dependent? Whoa...
John Erickson: Seriously, this is browser-dependent? Whoa... ←
14:40:11 <fadmaa> TOPIC: DCAT Issues
14:40:47 <fadmaa> olyerickson: we went through all the issues
John Erickson: we went through all the issues ←
14:40:51 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me
Zakim, unmute me ←
14:40:51 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should no longer be muted ←
14:41:28 <hadleybeeman> fadmaa: we've had proposals for all the issues. We've closed a couple of them. Half issues are on the editing side, still left to be done.
Fadi Maali: we've had proposals for all the issues. We've closed a couple of them. Half issues are on the editing side, still left to be done. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
14:41:33 <olyerickson> Need URL...
John Erickson: Need URL... ←
14:41:38 <hadleybeeman> fadmaa: Last version has contactPoint added now
Fadi Maali: Last version has contactPoint added now [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
14:42:05 <hadleybeeman> … Two main issues to discuss (now or by email). Licences/rights and date formats.
Hadley Beeman: … Two main issues to discuss (now or by email). Licences/rights and date formats. ←
14:42:07 <gatemezi> fadmaa: there are 2 main issues lefted to be discusses..re using License and Date format
Fadi Maali: there are 2 main issues lefted to be discussed..re using License and Date format [ Scribe Assist by Ghislain Atemezing ] ←
14:42:28 <fadmaa> olyerickson: there is a suggestion to use dct:rights instead of dct:license
John Erickson: there is a suggestion to use dct:rights instead of dct:license ←
14:42:38 <PhilA> issue-60?
14:42:38 <trackbot> ISSUE-60 -- dct:license vs. dct:rights -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-60 -- dct:license vs. dct:rights -- raised ←
14:42:38 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/60
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/60 ←
14:42:38 <fadmaa> ... most notably from Jeni Tennison
... most notably from Jeni Tennison ←
14:42:53 <fadmaa> ... rights is "looser" which makes it broader
... rights is "looser" which makes it broader ←
14:43:25 <MakxDekkers> DCMI does not agree with the "looser" interpretation
Makx Dekkers: DCMI does not agree with the "looser" interpretation ←
14:43:36 <fadmaa> olyerickson: the proposal is to use dct:rights instead of dct:license
John Erickson: the proposal is to use dct:rights instead of dct:license ←
14:44:16 <gatemezi> s/discusses/discussed
14:44:20 <fadmaa> MakxDekkers: DCMI states that dct:rights range is a resource
Makx Dekkers: DCMI states that dct:rights range is a resource ←
14:45:24 <fadmaa> olyerickson: I am happy with defining dct:rights with a suggestion that using dct:license is also possible
John Erickson: I am happy with defining dct:rights with a suggestion that using dct:license is also possible ←
14:45:26 <fadmaa> q+
q+ ←
14:47:13 <fadmaa> q-
q- ←
14:47:13 <gatemezi> fadmaa: support to use dct:License
Fadi Maali: support to use dct:rights [ Scribe Assist by Ghislain Atemezing ] ←
14:47:21 <MakxDekkers> +1
Makx Dekkers: +1 ←
14:47:38 <gatemezi> hadleybeeman: are you happy for the conclusion of the issue?
Hadley Beeman: are you happy for the conclusion of the issue? [ Scribe Assist by Ghislain Atemezing ] ←
14:47:54 <DaveReynolds> s/use dct:License/use dct:rights/
14:47:57 <MakxDekkers> +1 for dct:rights
Makx Dekkers: +1 for dct:rights ←
14:47:59 <PhilA> issue-63?
14:47:59 <trackbot> ISSUE-63 -- How to treat underspecified dates in DCAT? -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-63 -- How to treat underspecified dates in DCAT? -- raised ←
14:47:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/63
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/63 ←
14:48:10 <gatemezi> hadleybeeman: So, could we close issue-60?
Hadley Beeman: So, could we close ISSUE-60? [ Scribe Assist by Ghislain Atemezing ] ←
14:49:08 <fadmaa> olyerickson: Phil's suggestion is to drop the recommendation to use a specific format
John Erickson: Phil's suggestion is to drop the recommendation to use a specific format ←
14:49:24 <olyerickson> Phil's suggestion is to drop this and say something like: use a date formatted as one of the formats defined in XSD such as xdd:year, xdd:date, etc.
John Erickson: Phil's suggestion is to drop this and say something like: use a date formatted as one of the formats defined in XSD such as xdd:year, xdd:date, etc. ←
14:49:38 <DaveReynolds> +1 to Phil's suggestion on this
Dave Reynolds: +1 to Phil's suggestion on this ←
14:49:46 <olyerickson> Someone else talk if you can't hear me :(
John Erickson: Someone else talk if you can't hear me :( ←
14:50:32 <fadmaa> PhilA: in my experience asking for a specific format as for example xsd:datetime forces people to make inaccurate statements
Phil Archer: in my experience asking for a specific format as for example xsd:datetime forces people to make inaccurate statements ←
14:50:34 <fadmaa> +1
+1 ←
14:50:47 <PhilA> rdfs:Literal using the relevant ISO 8601 Date and Time compliant string and typed using the appropriate XML Schema datatype [[XMLSCHEMA-2]]
Phil Archer: rdfs Literal using the relevant ISO 8601 Date and Time compliant string and typed using the appropriate XML Schema datatype [[XMLSCHEMA-2]] ←
14:51:20 <olyerickson> +!
John Erickson: +! ←
14:52:12 <gatemezi> fadmaa: versioning is not included in DCAT
Fadi Maali: versioning is not included in DCAT [ Scribe Assist by Ghislain Atemezing ] ←
14:52:42 <gatemezi> hadleybeeman: when do you think we can go to LC?
Hadley Beeman: when do you think we can go to LC? [ Scribe Assist by Ghislain Atemezing ] ←
14:53:16 <gatemezi> fadmaa: some editions task to do...but do we need to answer to all the questions received?
Fadi Maali: some editions task to do...but do we need to answer to all the questions received? [ Scribe Assist by Ghislain Atemezing ] ←
14:53:33 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:54:27 <gatemezi> fadmaa: Richard is quite busy, but will answer wording with olyerickson
Fadi Maali: Richard is quite busy, but will answer wording with olyerickson [ Scribe Assist by Ghislain Atemezing ] ←
14:54:35 <olyerickson> so be quick...
John Erickson: so be quick... ←
14:54:59 <fadmaa> ACTION: fadmaa to finish editing DCAT SPEC and reply to feedback email by next Tuesday
ACTION: fadmaa to finish editing DCAT SPEC and reply to feedback email by next Tuesday ←
14:54:59 <trackbot> Created ACTION-140 - Finish editing DCAT SPEC and reply to feedback email by next Tuesday [on Fadi Maali - due 2013-05-30].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-140 - Finish editing DCAT SPEC and reply to feedback email by next Tuesday [on Fadi Maali - due 2013-05-30]. ←
14:55:20 <olyerickson> +1 to continuing GLD WG to whenever
John Erickson: +1 to continuing GLD WG to whenever ←
14:55:40 <olyerickson> ;)
John Erickson: ;) ←
14:55:45 <sandro> PROPOSED: We'd like to extend the Working Group so that we can finish our NOTES and see our three Rec-Track documents through to REC.
PROPOSED: We'd like to extend the Working Group so that we can finish our NOTES and see our three Rec-Track documents through to REC. ←
14:55:46 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
14:55:46 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted ←
14:55:52 <hadleybeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
14:55:55 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:55:55 <Biplav> +1
Biplav Srivastava: +1 ←
14:55:57 <gatemezi> +1 to continuing GLD WG for 2 months
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to continuing GLD WG for 2 months ←
14:55:57 <fadmaa> +1
+1 ←
14:55:58 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 ←
14:55:58 <tinagheen> +1
Tina Gheen: +1 ←
14:56:01 <james> +1
James McKinney: +1 ←
14:56:01 <martinA> +1
Martín Álvarez: +1 ←
14:56:02 <olyerickson> +1 to what sandro proposed
John Erickson: +1 to what sandro proposed ←
14:56:02 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
14:56:06 <DaveReynolds> +1
Dave Reynolds: +1 ←
14:56:06 <MakxDekkers> +1
Makx Dekkers: +1 ←
14:56:19 <sandro> RESOLVED: We'd like to extend the Working Group so that we can finish our NOTES and see our three Rec-Track documents through to REC.
RESOLVED: We'd like to extend the Working Group so that we can finish our NOTES and see our three Rec-Track documents through to REC. ←
14:56:34 <olyerickson> Bye!
John Erickson: Bye! ←
14:56:38 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
14:57:20 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 ←
14:57:39 <BenediktKaempgen> i can give the status of qb ucr
Benedikt Kaempgen: i can give the status of qb ucr ←
14:58:35 <Zakim> -MakxDekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: -MakxDekkers ←
14:58:45 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: I received some feedback regarding the qb ucr
Benedikt Kaempgen: I received some feedback regarding the qb ucr ←
14:59:04 <fadmaa> ... both editorial and content-related feedback
... both editorial and content-related feedback ←
14:59:38 <fadmaa> ... requirements int he documents need to be changed as some of them are relevant to tools but not to the vocabulary
... requirements in the documents need to be changed as some of them are relevant to tools but not to the vocabulary ←
14:59:53 <fadmaa> s/int he /in the /
15:00:21 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: DaveReynolds asks if it is still worth the efforts of continuing this
Benedikt Kaempgen: DaveReynolds asks if it is still worth the efforts of continuing this ←
15:00:51 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: I can address the comments I got but can't add new parts to it
Benedikt Kaempgen: I can address the comments I got but can't add new parts to it ←
15:01:05 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
15:01:53 <fadmaa> ... I suggest that I do the required editing and then publish it as a note
... I suggest that I do the required editing and then publish it as a first public working draft ←
15:02:07 <hadleybeeman> s/note/first public working draft
15:02:08 <fadmaa> ... if people are not happy with the document, I am fine with not publishing it
... if people are not happy with the document, I am fine with not publishing it ←
15:02:32 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
15:02:58 <fadmaa> PhilA: good to hear that BenediktKaempgen is willing to continue working ont he document
Phil Archer: good to hear that BenediktKaempgen is willing to continue working ont he document ←
15:03:34 <fadmaa> ... I am trying to figure out the purpose of the document as Cube is done so it won't inform it
... I am trying to figure out the purpose of the document as Cube is done so it won't inform it ←
15:04:17 <fadmaa> ... the question is whether the document is useful outside the scope of the vocabulary design
... the question is whether the document is useful outside the scope of the vocabulary design ←
15:04:50 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: I think Sandro said that having a ucr is good from the implementer perspective
Hadley Beeman: I think Sandro said that having a ucr is good from the implementer perspective ←
15:05:02 <Zakim> -gatemezi
Zakim IRC Bot: -gatemezi ←
15:05:07 <fadmaa> ... is it worth having the document as input for implementers?
... is it worth having the document as input for implementers? ←
15:05:27 <DaveReynolds> sounds like a lot more work to me!
Dave Reynolds: sounds like a lot more work to me! ←
15:06:22 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←
15:07:03 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: currently the ucr document is an overview of the tools and application that could use and benefit from the Cube vocabulary
Benedikt Kaempgen: currently the ucr document is an overview of the tools and application that could use and benefit from the Cube vocabulary ←
15:07:27 <fadmaa> ... it help someone to make the decision whether to use the vocabulary
... it help someone to make the decision whether to use the vocabulary ←
15:07:51 <fadmaa> ... the spec helps someone who already decided to use the vocabulary
... the spec helps someone who already decided to use the vocabulary ←
15:08:03 <DaveReynolds> q+
Dave Reynolds: q+ ←
15:08:49 <hadleybeeman> ack dave
Hadley Beeman: ack dave ←
15:10:09 <Zakim> -biplav
Zakim IRC Bot: -biplav ←
15:10:16 <PhilA> Can I emphasise again that I was not making a criticism. You wanna see me try and write German?
Phil Archer: Can I emphasise again that I was not making a criticism. You wanna see me try and write German? ←
15:10:25 <hadleybeeman> :)
Hadley Beeman: :) ←
15:11:10 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I am not sure if there exists a working draft status for note in the W3C process
Dave Reynolds: I am not sure if there exists a working draft status for note in the W3C process ←
15:12:27 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: we did it for the best practices to get multiple rounds of feedback
Hadley Beeman: we did it for the best practices to get multiple rounds of feedback ←
15:13:59 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: what is your recommendation?
Hadley Beeman: what is your recommendation? ←
15:14:18 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: I can give it a try. implement the feedback I got (mostly the editorial ones)
Benedikt Kaempgen: I can give it a try. implement the feedback I got (mostly the editorial ones) ←
15:14:51 <fadmaa> ... then I can ask for feedback and then we can decide accordingly
... then I can ask for feedback and then we can decide accordingly ←
15:15:17 <PhilA> Just publish it as a Note
Phil Archer: Just publish it as a Note ←
15:15:19 <fadmaa> ... whether to continue toward publishing the document as a note
... whether to continue toward publishing the document as a note ←
15:15:31 <PhilA> It can be updated if desired or it can be left as as
Phil Archer: It can be updated if desired or it can be left as is ←
15:15:40 <PhilA> s/as as/as is/
15:17:01 <PhilA> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
15:17:06 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 ←
15:17:17 <sandro> yes
Sandro Hawke: yes ←
15:17:25 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks all!
Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks all! ←
15:17:31 <Zakim> -martinA
Zakim IRC Bot: -martinA ←
15:17:33 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BenediktKaempgen ←
15:17:34 <Zakim> -fadmaa
Zakim IRC Bot: -fadmaa ←
15:17:35 <Zakim> -tinagheen
Zakim IRC Bot: -tinagheen ←
15:17:36 <Zakim> -james
Zakim IRC Bot: -james ←
15:17:48 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is here?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here? ←
15:17:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, hadleybeeman, PhilA, DaveReynolds
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, hadleybeeman, PhilA, DaveReynolds ←
15:17:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see martinA, PhilA, Zakim, RRSAgent, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, fadmaa, hadleybeeman, danbri, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see martinA, PhilA, Zakim, RRSAgent, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, fadmaa, hadleybeeman, danbri, sandro, trackbot ←
15:19:28 <fadmaa> RRSAgent, generate minutes
RRSAgent, generate minutes ←
15:19:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-gld-minutes.html fadmaa
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-gld-minutes.html fadmaa ←
15:22:17 <fadmaa> RRSAgent, make notes public
RRSAgent, make notes public ←
15:22:17 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make notes public', fadmaa. Try /msg RRSAgent help
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'make notes public', fadmaa. Try /msg RRSAgent help ←
15:22:28 <hadleybeeman> thanks again, fadmaa!
Hadley Beeman: thanks again, fadmaa! ←
15:22:30 <hadleybeeman> :) have a good week
Hadley Beeman: :) have a good week ←
15:26:17 <fadmaa> thanks hadleybeeman
thanks hadleybeeman ←
15:31:54 <fadmaa> s/rdfs: Literal/rdfs Literal/
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s/rdfs: Literal/rdfs Literal/ (warning: replacement failed) ←
15:31:58 <fadmaa> RRSAgent, generate minutes
RRSAgent, generate minutes ←
15:31:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-gld-minutes.html fadmaa
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-gld-minutes.html fadmaa ←
15:32:49 <fadmaa> s/rdfs:Literal/rdfs Literal/
15:32:53 <fadmaa> RRSAgent, generate minutes
RRSAgent, generate minutes ←
15:32:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-gld-minutes.html fadmaa
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-gld-minutes.html fadmaa ←
15:37:54 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is on the call?
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Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:37:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, hadleybeeman, PhilA, DaveReynolds
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, hadleybeeman, PhilA, DaveReynolds ←
15:37:56 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
15:38:09 <sandro> grrrrr, call waiting dropped me. sorry.
Sandro Hawke: grrrrr, call waiting dropped me. sorry. ←
15:38:15 <hadleybeeman> no worries
Hadley Beeman: no worries ←
15:38:18 <sandro> and zakim says the call is over so I cant get back in.
Sandro Hawke: and zakim says the call is over so I cant get back in. ←
15:38:26 <hadleybeeman> oh dear.
Hadley Beeman: oh dear. ←
15:38:38 <sandro> can we switch to a new code?
Sandro Hawke: can we switch to a new code? ←
15:39:07 <sandro> code 26633 (CONF3
Sandro Hawke: code 26633 (CONF3 ←
15:39:10 <sandro> )
Sandro Hawke: ) ←
15:39:41 <Zakim> -PhilA
Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA ←
15:39:50 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds
Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds ←
15:39:51 <Zakim> -hadleybeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -hadleybeeman ←
15:39:51 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended ←
15:39:51 <Zakim> Attendees were Sandro, hadleybeeman, +91.80.67.84.aaaa, olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, james, fadmaa, PhilA, DaveReynolds, gatemezi, biplav, MakxDekkers, tinagheen,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Sandro, hadleybeeman, +91.80.67.84.aaaa, olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, james, fadmaa, PhilA, DaveReynolds, gatemezi, biplav, MakxDekkers, tinagheen, ←
15:39:51 <Zakim> ... JoaoPauloAlmeida, BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], martinA, +91.80.67.84.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: ... JoaoPauloAlmeida, BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], martinA, +91.80.67.84.aabb ←
15:40:06 <PhilA> I'm on CONF 3
Phil Archer: I'm on CONF 3 ←
15:40:21 <sandro> sorry -- i;ll be right there
Sandro Hawke: sorry -- i;ll be right there ←
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