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14:00:59 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:01:02 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
14:01:02 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started
14:01:03 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:01:03 <trackbot> Date: 23 May 2013
14:01:06 <Zakim> +[Mozilla]
14:01:08 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:01:10 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, mozilla is me
14:01:10 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman1; got it
14:01:17 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who is here?
14:01:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P9, Sandro, HadleyBeeman1, [IPcaller]
14:01:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, fadmaa, james, gatemezi, olyerickson, hadleybeeman, danbri, sandro, trackbot
14:01:26 <hadleybeeman> zakim, hadleybeeman1 is me
14:01:26 <Zakim> +hadleybeeman; got it
14:01:34 <olyerickson> zakim, [ipcaller] is me.
14:01:34 <Zakim> + +91.80.67.84.aaaa
14:01:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
14:01:34 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
14:01:34 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, ??P9 is BenediktKaempgen
14:01:35 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it
14:01:36 <MakxDekkers> MakxDekkers has joined #gld
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14:02:00 <Zakim> +DeirdreLee
14:02:10 <Biplav> Biplav has joined #gld
14:02:11 <fadmaa> Zakim, DeirdreLee is me
14:02:12 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it
14:02:14 <PhilA> zakim, code?
14:02:14 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA
14:02:39 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:02:44 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me
14:02:44 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it
14:02:45 <hadleybeeman> zakim, deirdrelee is fadmaa
14:02:46 <Zakim> sorry, hadleybeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'deirdrelee'
14:02:46 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:03:03 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who's on the call?
14:03:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see BenediktKaempgen, Sandro, hadleybeeman, olyerickson, james, +91.80.67.84.aaaa, fadmaa, PhilA, DaveReynolds
14:03:21 <Zakim> +gatemezi
14:03:22 <hadleybeeman> zakim, aaaa is biplav
14:03:23 <Zakim> +biplav; got it
14:03:34 <olyerickson> PhilA is an octave lower than everyone else...
14:04:20 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130523
14:04:30 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
14:04:31 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
14:04:35 <olyerickson> +1 fadmaa !
14:04:36 <fadmaa> scribe: fadmaa
14:04:43 <PhilA> fadmaa++
14:04:43 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-05-16
14:04:55 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers
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14:05:18 <fadmaa> PROPOSAL: accepting last telco minutes
14:05:19 <olyerickson> +1 to last week's minutes... well formatted etc
14:05:28 <james> +1
14:05:30 <hadleybeeman> +1
14:05:31 <DaveReynolds> +1 to minutes
14:05:34 <gatemezi> +1 to last week's minutes
14:05:41 <olyerickson> All Hail the Hail in Mother Englang!
14:05:49 <Biplav> +1
14:05:56 <olyerickson> (England...)
14:05:57 <fadmaa> RESOLUTION: accept last week minutes
14:06:09 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Data Cube
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14:06:57 <Zakim> +??P4
14:06:58 <Zakim> +[LC]
14:07:03 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: for ORG we decided it is not necessary to track all implementations and the use of every term
14:07:07 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me
14:07:07 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it
14:07:08 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P4 is me
14:07:09 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
14:07:51 <fadmaa> ... exit criteria for SKOS are weaker than we proposed for ORG
14:08:11 <fadmaa> ... marking properties that are not used twice as "at risk" didn't fly
14:08:39 <fadmaa> ... we decide to track implementations at the feature level
14:09:00 <fadmaa> ... I grouped properties in features
14:09:25 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: thanks for all the work Dave
14:09:39 <gatemezi> s/TOPIC: Data Cube / TOPIC:ORG
14:10:38 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we need to clarify the exit criteria
14:11:10 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: for example we can have two implementations of every feature and one implementation for every term
14:11:20 <fadmaa> ... I will write this down in an email
14:11:21 <PhilA> The topic is a report on the transition call yesterday that discussed ORG and QB which we're hoping will move to CR
14:12:40 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: Given the integrity constraints in data cube, it is more straightforward to define exit criteria
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14:13:07 <fadmaa> ... integrity constraints do not address all the terms
14:13:35 <fadmaa> ... tracking all the implementations on the term level for Data Cube is challenging
14:13:48 <fadmaa> ... we won't be tracking abstract classes for example
14:14:11 <Zakim> +??P30
14:14:19 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P30 is me
14:14:19 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
14:15:13 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: do we need further help regarding the implementation reports and hosting a tool for that?
14:15:38 <hadleybeeman> and executing the CR exit criteria assessment.
14:16:03 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I am not clear on the actual execution
14:16:32 <BenediktKaempgen> did we get the report on the transition call per mail?
14:16:38 <fadmaa> sandro: Dave and me can discuss via emails, maybe we can find some shortcut
14:17:30 <fadmaa> PhilA: getting into a CR is one thing but getting out of it needs to be kept in mind
14:17:35 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: agree
14:17:59 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we need a clear idea about the future of the working group
14:18:40 <PhilA> DaveReynolds++
14:18:40 <olyerickson> +1 to DaveReynolds !
14:18:50 <DaveReynolds> Thanks!
14:18:58 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Extension to the working group's charter
14:19:10 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: we have only one week left
14:19:36 <fadmaa> sandro: nothing has changed re. our chances of getting an extension
14:19:44 <fadmaa> ... we need to get into a CR
14:19:59 <fadmaa> ... which looks very much doable
14:20:27 <fadmaa> ... hard to confirm whether having a CR is sufficient to get an extension
14:20:45 <fadmaa> ... we need to wait for a formal meeting which might not happen soon
14:21:19 <fadmaa> ... but we still can work for a week or so even before confirming the extension
14:21:51 <fadmaa> sandro: we need to formally capture that people are willing to continue working on the pending items
14:22:06 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
14:22:23 <Zakim> +??P4
14:22:27 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P4 is me
14:22:27 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
14:22:51 <fadmaa> PhilA: there is an approval for the working group that will continue this WG work
14:22:58 <fadmaa> ... starting around September
14:23:20 <DaveReynolds> s/continue this WG work/continue work in this broad area/
14:23:55 <Biplav> q+
14:24:10 <gatemezi> @Dave: I'll send you the file and a capture of the error
14:24:24 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: from work perspective, we need to get Cube and Org into PR and DCAT into CR
14:24:36 <fadmaa> ... and get the notes into transition
14:24:58 <Zakim> -olyerickson
14:25:15 <PhilA> ack Biplav
14:25:18 <olyerickson> sorry lost my skype...
14:25:24 <olyerickson> dialing in again :(
14:25:32 <olyerickson> +1 to carrying on
14:25:53 <fadmaa> Biplav: one direction is to finish remaining work, the other direction is what's next
14:26:14 <fadmaa> Biplav: I found the email from Phil on open API very interesting
14:26:23 <fadmaa> ... so far we focused only on data
14:26:26 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:26:32 <olyerickson> zakim, I am [ipcaller]
14:26:32 <Zakim> ok, olyerickson, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
14:26:45 <Zakim> +??P13
14:26:50 <olyerickson> I think DCAT will be quick....
14:26:51 <martinA> zakim, ??p13 is me
14:26:51 <Zakim> +martinA; got it
14:27:47 <Biplav> For some reason, I cannot hear anything
14:28:00 <Biplav> Dropping-off, and reconnecting
14:28:04 <DaveReynolds> q+
14:28:15 <Zakim> -biplav
14:28:55 <Zakim> + +91.80.67.84.aabb
14:29:20 <Biplav> zakim, aabb is me
14:29:20 <Zakim> sorry, Biplav, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'
14:29:29 <hadleybeeman> q?
14:30:34 <PhilA> q- DaveReynolds
14:30:34 <DaveReynolds> ack me
14:30:43 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Transition ADMS into Note
14:30:46 <PhilA> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/adms/index.html
14:31:16 <fadmaa> PhilA: I followed up on all the comments that have been made. ADMS is a DCAT profile now
14:31:48 <fadmaa> PhilA: still waits for DCAT to add contactPoint
14:32:07 <fadmaa> PhilA: it is being used extensively by the European Commision
14:32:34 <fadmaa> ... if there is no comments on it ,I'd like to publish it as a note
14:32:46 <hadleybeeman> ack sandro
14:32:58 <fadmaa> sandro asks about the identifier in ADMS
14:33:18 <MakxDekkers> +1
14:33:19 <olyerickson> re adms:Identifier see: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/adms/index.html#dt_identifier
14:33:25 <fadmaa> PROPOSAL: transition ADMS to a working group note
14:33:28 <james> +1
14:33:29 <fadmaa> +1
14:33:30 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
14:33:31 <DaveReynolds> +1
14:33:31 <Biplav> +1
14:33:31 <hadleybeeman> +1 for Sandro
14:33:32 <PhilA> sandro says  +1
14:33:32 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
14:33:33 <PhilA> +1
14:33:34 <martinA> +1
14:33:36 <tinagheen> +1
14:33:38 <gatemezi> +1
14:33:38 <olyerickson> +1
14:33:52 <olyerickson> +1 to PhilA !
14:33:59 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
14:34:17 <fadmaa> RESOLVED: transitioning ADMS into a working group note
14:34:37 <fadmaa> sandro: what about the references? dcat is referred to as a working draft
14:35:17 <PhilA> topic: RegOrg https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/legal/index.html
14:35:35 <fadmaa> PhilA: RegOrg is now in alignment with Org
14:36:11 <fadmaa> .. it defined some new properties, it refers to ADMS identifier
14:36:28 <fadmaa> ... its main usecase is describing corporates
14:36:45 <fadmaa> ... if no comment on it, I'd like to publish it as a note
14:37:37 <fadmaa> PROPOSAL: transition RegOrg to a working group note
14:37:45 <olyerickson> +1
14:37:47 <PhilA> +1
14:37:49 <fadmaa> +1
14:37:49 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
14:37:50 <tinagheen> +1
14:37:50 <martinA> +1
14:37:54 <gatemezi> +1
14:37:55 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
14:38:04 <PhilA> sandro +1
14:38:05 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
14:38:10 <Zakim> +??P4
14:38:14 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P4 is me
14:38:14 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
14:38:19 <DaveReynolds> +1
14:38:37 <sandro> s/sandro +1/
14:38:38 <sandro> +1
14:38:42 <olyerickson> Makes reference to org:identifier
14:38:56 <olyerickson> is there another browser than Chrome?
14:39:00 <fadmaa> gatemezi: the references don't appear on my browser
14:39:11 <fadmaa> PhilA: yes donot appear correctly on Chrome
14:39:16 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
14:39:27 <james> +1
14:39:30 <fadmaa> RESOLVED: transitioning RegOrg into a working group note
14:39:30 <gatemezi> +1
14:39:40 <PhilA> Thank you everyone
14:39:41 <olyerickson> Seriously, this is browser-dependent? Whoa...
14:40:11 <fadmaa> TOPIC: DCAT Issues
14:40:47 <fadmaa> olyerickson: we went through all the issues
14:40:51 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me
14:40:51 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted
14:41:28 <hadleybeeman> fadmaa:  we've had proposals for all the issues.  We've closed a couple of them.  Half issues are on the editing side, still left to be done.
14:41:33 <olyerickson> Need URL...
14:41:38 <hadleybeeman> fadmaa:  Last version has contactPoint added now
14:42:05 <hadleybeeman> …  Two main issues to discuss (now or by email).  Licences/rights and date formats.
14:42:07 <gatemezi> fadmaa: there are 2 main issues lefted to be discusses..re using License and Date format
14:42:28 <fadmaa> olyerickson: there is a suggestion to use dct:rights instead of dct:license
14:42:38 <PhilA> issue-60?
14:42:38 <trackbot> ISSUE-60 -- dct:license vs. dct:rights -- raised
14:42:38 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/60
14:42:38 <fadmaa> ... most notably from Jeni Tennison
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14:42:53 <fadmaa> ... rights is "looser" which makes it broader
14:43:25 <MakxDekkers> DCMI does not agree with the "looser" interpretation
14:43:36 <fadmaa> olyerickson: the proposal is to use dct:rights instead of dct:license
14:44:16 <gatemezi> s/discusses/discussed
14:44:20 <fadmaa> MakxDekkers: DCMI states that dct:rights range is a resource
14:45:24 <fadmaa> olyerickson: I am happy with defining dct:rights with a suggestion that using dct:license is also possible
14:45:26 <fadmaa> q+
14:47:13 <fadmaa> q-
14:47:13 <gatemezi> fadmaa: support to use dct:License
14:47:21 <MakxDekkers> +1
14:47:38 <gatemezi> hadleybeeman: are you happy for the conclusion of the issue?
14:47:54 <DaveReynolds> s/use dct:License/use dct:rights/
14:47:57 <MakxDekkers> +1 for dct:rights
14:47:59 <PhilA> issue-63?
14:47:59 <trackbot> ISSUE-63 -- How to treat underspecified dates in DCAT? -- raised
14:47:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/63
14:48:10 <gatemezi> hadleybeeman: So, could we close issue-60?
14:49:08 <fadmaa> olyerickson: Phil's suggestion is to drop the recommendation to use a specific format
14:49:24 <olyerickson>  Phil's suggestion is to drop this and say something like: use a date formatted as one of the formats defined in XSD such as xdd:year, xdd:date, etc.
14:49:38 <DaveReynolds> +1 to Phil's suggestion on this
14:49:46 <olyerickson> Someone else talk if you can't hear me :(
14:50:32 <fadmaa> PhilA: in my experience asking for a specific format as for example xsd:datetime forces people to make inaccurate statements
14:50:34 <fadmaa> +1
14:50:47 <PhilA> rdfs:Literal using the relevant ISO 8601 Date and Time compliant string and typed using the appropriate XML Schema datatype [[XMLSCHEMA-2]]
14:51:20 <olyerickson> +!
14:52:12 <gatemezi> fadmaa: versioning is not included in DCAT
14:52:42 <gatemezi> hadleybeeman: when do you think we can go to LC?
14:53:16 <gatemezi> fadmaa: some editions task to do...but do we need to answer to all the questions received?
14:53:33 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
14:54:27 <gatemezi> fadmaa: Richard is quite busy, but will answer wording with olyerickson
14:54:35 <olyerickson> so be quick...
14:54:59 <fadmaa> ACTION: fadmaa to finish editing DCAT SPEC and reply to feedback email by next Tuesday
14:54:59 <trackbot> Created ACTION-140 - Finish editing DCAT SPEC and reply to feedback email by next Tuesday [on Fadi Maali - due 2013-05-30].
14:55:20 <olyerickson> +1 to continuing GLD WG to whenever
14:55:40 <olyerickson> ;)
14:55:45 <sandro> PROPOSED: We'd like to extend the Working Group so that we can finish our NOTES and see our three Rec-Track documents through to REC.
14:55:46 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
14:55:46 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
14:55:52 <hadleybeeman> +1
14:55:55 <sandro> +1
14:55:55 <Biplav> +1
14:55:57 <gatemezi> +1 to continuing GLD WG for 2 months
14:55:57 <fadmaa> +1
14:55:58 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
14:55:58 <tinagheen> +1
14:56:01 <james> +1
14:56:01 <martinA> +1
14:56:02 <olyerickson> +1 to what sandro proposed
14:56:02 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
14:56:06 <DaveReynolds> +1
14:56:06 <MakxDekkers> +1
14:56:19 <sandro> RESOLVED: We'd like to extend the Working Group so that we can finish our NOTES and see our three Rec-Track documents through to REC.
14:56:34 <olyerickson> Bye!
14:56:38 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
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14:57:20 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
14:57:39 <BenediktKaempgen> i can give the status of qb ucr
14:58:35 <Zakim> -MakxDekkers
14:58:45 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: I received some feedback regarding the qb ucr
14:59:04 <fadmaa> ... both editorial and content-related feedback
14:59:38 <fadmaa> ... requirements int he documents need to be changed as some of them are relevant to tools but not to the vocabulary
14:59:53 <fadmaa> s/int he /in the /
15:00:21 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: DaveReynolds asks if it is still worth the efforts of continuing this
15:00:51 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: I can address the comments I got but can't add new parts to it
15:01:05 <PhilA> q+
15:01:53 <fadmaa> ... I suggest that I do the required editing  and then publish it as  a note
15:02:07 <hadleybeeman> s/note/first public working draft
15:02:08 <fadmaa> ... if people are not happy with the document, I am fine with not publishing it
15:02:32 <PhilA> ack me
15:02:58 <fadmaa> PhilA: good to hear that BenediktKaempgen is willing to continue working ont he document
15:03:34 <fadmaa> ... I am trying to figure out the purpose of the document as Cube is done so it won't inform it
15:04:17 <fadmaa> ... the question is whether the document is useful outside the scope of the vocabulary design
15:04:50 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: I think Sandro said that having a ucr is good from the implementer perspective
15:05:02 <Zakim> -gatemezi
15:05:07 <fadmaa> ... is it worth having the document as input for implementers?
15:05:27 <DaveReynolds> sounds like a lot more work to me!
15:06:22 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
15:07:03 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: currently the ucr document is an overview of the tools and application that could use and benefit from the Cube vocabulary
15:07:27 <fadmaa> ... it help someone to make the decision whether to use the vocabulary
15:07:51 <fadmaa> ... the spec helps someone who already decided to use the vocabulary
15:08:03 <DaveReynolds> q+
15:08:49 <hadleybeeman> ack dave
15:10:09 <Zakim> -biplav
15:10:16 <PhilA> Can I emphasise again that I was not making a criticism. You wanna see me try and write German?
15:10:25 <hadleybeeman> :)
15:11:10 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I am not sure if there exists a working draft status for note in the W3C process
15:12:27 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: we did it for the best practices to get multiple rounds of feedback
15:13:59 <fadmaa> hadleybeeman: what is your recommendation?
15:14:18 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: I can give it a try. implement the feedback I got (mostly the editorial ones)
15:14:51 <fadmaa> ... then I can ask for feedback and then we can decide accordingly
15:15:17 <PhilA> Just publish it as a Note
15:15:19 <fadmaa> ... whether to continue toward publishing the document as a note
15:15:31 <PhilA> It can be updated if desired or it can be left as as
15:15:40 <PhilA> s/as as/as is/
15:17:01 <PhilA> +1
15:17:06 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
15:17:17 <sandro> yes
15:17:25 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks all!
15:17:31 <Zakim> -martinA
15:17:33 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen
15:17:34 <Zakim> -fadmaa
15:17:35 <Zakim> -tinagheen
15:17:36 <Zakim> -james
15:17:48 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is here?
15:17:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, hadleybeeman, PhilA, DaveReynolds
15:17:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see martinA, PhilA, Zakim, RRSAgent, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, fadmaa, hadleybeeman, danbri, sandro, trackbot
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15:19:28 <fadmaa> RRSAgent, generate minutes
15:19:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-gld-minutes.html fadmaa
15:22:17 <fadmaa> RRSAgent, make notes public
15:22:17 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make notes public', fadmaa.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:22:28 <hadleybeeman> thanks again, fadmaa!
15:22:30 <hadleybeeman> :) have a good week
15:26:17 <fadmaa> thanks hadleybeeman
15:31:54 <fadmaa> s/rdfs: Literal/rdfs Literal/
15:31:58 <fadmaa> RRSAgent, generate minutes
15:31:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-gld-minutes.html fadmaa
15:32:49 <fadmaa> s/rdfs:Literal/rdfs Literal/
15:32:53 <fadmaa> RRSAgent, generate minutes
15:32:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/23-gld-minutes.html fadmaa
15:37:54 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is on the call?
15:37:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, hadleybeeman, PhilA, DaveReynolds
15:37:56 <Zakim> -Sandro
15:38:09 <sandro> grrrrr, call waiting dropped me.   sorry.
15:38:15 <hadleybeeman> no worries
15:38:18 <sandro> and zakim says the call is over so I cant get back in.
15:38:26 <hadleybeeman> oh dear.
15:38:38 <sandro> can we switch to a new code?
15:39:07 <sandro>  code 26633 (CONF3
15:39:10 <sandro> )
15:39:41 <Zakim> -PhilA
15:39:50 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds
15:39:51 <Zakim> -hadleybeeman
15:39:51 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended
15:39:51 <Zakim> Attendees were Sandro, hadleybeeman, +91.80.67.84.aaaa, olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, james, fadmaa, PhilA, DaveReynolds, gatemezi, biplav, MakxDekkers, tinagheen,
15:39:51 <Zakim> ... JoaoPauloAlmeida, BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], martinA, +91.80.67.84.aabb
15:40:06 <PhilA> I'm on CONF 3
15:40:21 <sandro> sorry -- i;ll be right there
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