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13:56:47 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/04/22-egov-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/04/22-egov-irc ←
13:56:53 <sandro> zakim. this will be egov
Sandro Hawke: zakim. this will be egov ←
13:56:55 <sandro> rrsagent, make log public
Sandro Hawke: rrsagent, make log public ←
13:57:03 <sandro> rrsagent, pointer?
Sandro Hawke: rrsagent, pointer? ←
13:57:03 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2010/04/22-egov-irc#T13-57-03
RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2010/04/22-egov-irc#T13-57-03 ←
13:57:45 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: eGov IG : DCAT : http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/2010-04-22
Sandro Hawke: sandro has changed the topic to: eGov IG : DCAT : http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/2010-04-22 ←
13:57:47 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: eGov IG : DCAT : http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/2010-04-22
Sandro Hawke: sandro has changed the topic to: eGov IG : DCAT : http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/2010-04-22 ←
13:58:50 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:58:50 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, sandro, I don't know what conference this is ←
13:58:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, cygri, mhausenblas, danbri, hughb, tmarkus, edsu, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, cygri, mhausenblas, danbri, hughb, tmarkus, edsu, sandro, trackbot ←
13:58:54 <sandro> zakim, this will be egov
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this will be egov ←
13:58:54 <Zakim> ok, sandro; I see T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, sandro; I see T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes ←
13:59:29 <sandro> d'oh, I'm off by an hour.
Sandro Hawke: d'oh, I'm off by an hour. ←
13:59:53 <danbri> s/thread/conversation/
Scribe problem: the name 'danbri' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'danbri' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown danbri: s/thread/conversation/ (warning: replacement failed) ←
13:59:57 <sandro> uh huh
Sandro Hawke: uh huh ←
14:00:18 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM has now started ←
14:00:24 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM has ended ←
14:00:25 <Zakim> Attendees were
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were ←
14:00:30 <cygri_> sandro, dcat is in one hour is it?
Richard Cyganiak: sandro, dcat is in one hour is it? ←
14:01:09 <sandro> I think so cygri. For the last ten minutes I was confused thinking it was now.
Sandro Hawke: I think so cygri. For the last ten minutes I was confused thinking it was now. ←
14:01:49 <sandro> (I had another meeting now, before dcat, which was cancelled a few hours ago, and threw me off.)
Sandro Hawke: (I had another meeting now, before dcat, which was cancelled a few hours ago, and threw me off.) ←
14:02:53 <cygri> you had me scared for a second there :-)
Richard Cyganiak: you had me scared for a second there :-) ←
14:03:04 <cygri> so LD TECH is not us
Richard Cyganiak: so LD TECH is not us ←
14:03:53 <cygri> sandro: mhausenblas just pointed me to http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#D20100422 and i couldn't see anything about dcat, should it be listed there?
Sandro Hawke: mhausenblas just pointed me to http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#D20100422 and i couldn't see anything about dcat, should it be listed there? [ Scribe Assist by Richard Cyganiak ] ←
14:16:27 <sandro> cygri, I extended LD TECH for an extra hour to cover dcat, since zakim can't really handle back-to-back calls with the same code. (if you call at 14:59 it wouldn't know which to put you on.)
(No events recorded for 12 minutes)
Sandro Hawke: cygri, I extended LD TECH for an extra hour to cover dcat, since zakim can't really handle back-to-back calls with the same code. (if you call at 14:59 it wouldn't know which to put you on.) ←
14:16:41 <sandro> so this should be fine. it's what we had last week.
Sandro Hawke: so this should be fine. it's what we had last week. ←
14:17:09 <sandro> I kind of which we had different codes, though. I dunno.
Sandro Hawke: I kind of which we had different codes, though. I dunno. ←
14:17:23 <cygri> thanks sandro, sounds fine to me.
Richard Cyganiak: thanks sandro, sounds fine to me. ←
14:18:31 <lindstream> Hello folks. The meeting is in 40 minutes, correct?
Scribe problem: the name 'lindstream' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'lindstream' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown lindstream: Hello folks. The meeting is in 40 minutes, correct? ←
14:18:36 <sandro> yes, lindstream
Sandro Hawke: yes, lindstream ←
14:19:14 <lindstream> great. I cannot attend by phone unfortunately. Is it ok to give some feedback only via irc?
Scribe problem: the name 'lindstream' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'lindstream' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown lindstream: great. I cannot attend by phone unfortunately. Is it ok to give some feedback only via irc? ←
14:19:40 <sandro> You can try; people may or may not read what you say on IRC.
Sandro Hawke: You can try; people may or may not read what you say on IRC. ←
14:20:48 <lindstream> ok. better than nothing. (But I'll see if I can get phone access.)
Scribe problem: the name 'lindstream' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'lindstream' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown lindstream: ok. better than nothing. (But I'll see if I can get phone access.) ←
14:22:58 <sandro> skype or something?
Sandro Hawke: skype or something? ←
14:24:07 <lindstream> yes, I'll see if I can get that to play (I'm on a shaky wireless)
Scribe problem: the name 'lindstream' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'lindstream' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown lindstream: yes, I'll see if I can get that to play (I'm on a shaky wireless) ←
14:28:56 <sandro> ah.
Sandro Hawke: ah. ←
14:55:18 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM has now started
(No events recorded for 26 minutes)
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM has now started ←
14:55:25 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
14:55:29 <sandro> RRSAgent, pointer?
Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, pointer? ←
14:55:29 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2010/04/22-egov-irc#T14-55-29
RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2010/04/22-egov-irc#T14-55-29 ←
14:58:13 <Zakim> + +1.202.955.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.955.aaaa ←
14:58:36 <sandro> zakim, aaaa is Sunlight
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aaaa is Sunlight ←
14:58:36 <Zakim> +Sunlight; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sunlight; got it ←
14:58:45 <sandro> Zakim, Sunlight has Luigi, David
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, Sunlight has Luigi, David ←
14:58:45 <Zakim> +Luigi, David; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Luigi, David; got it ←
14:59:00 <Zakim> +??P27
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27 ←
14:59:15 <Zakim> +[CTIC]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[CTIC] ←
14:59:23 <Zakim> + +1.202.690.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.690.aabb ←
14:59:34 <martin> Zakim, +[C is martin
Martín Álvarez: Zakim, +[C is martin ←
14:59:34 <Zakim> sorry, martin, I do not recognize a party named '+[C'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, martin, I do not recognize a party named '+[C' ←
14:59:46 <martin> Zakim, [C is martin
Martín Álvarez: Zakim, [C is martin ←
14:59:46 <Zakim> +martin; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +martin; got it ←
15:00:18 <Zakim> + +1.617.521.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.521.aacc ←
15:00:34 <Zakim> + +1.510.643.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.510.643.aadd ←
15:00:53 <Zakim> + +0789798aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +0789798aaee ←
15:01:12 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
15:01:22 <Zakim> + +03539149aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +03539149aaff ←
15:01:23 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.510.643.aadd (22%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.510.643.aadd (22%) ←
15:01:38 <Zakim> +??P43
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P43 ←
15:01:44 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:01:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, Sunlight, ??P27, martin, +1.202.690.aabb, +1.617.521.aacc (muted), +1.510.643.aadd, +0789798aaee (muted), +03539149aaff, ??P43
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, Sunlight, ??P27, martin, +1.202.690.aabb, +1.617.521.aacc (muted), +1.510.643.aadd, +0789798aaee (muted), +03539149aaff, ??P43 ←
15:01:46 <cygri> zakim, aaff is cygri
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, aaff is cygri ←
15:01:48 <Zakim> Sunlight has Luigi, David
Zakim IRC Bot: Sunlight has Luigi, David ←
15:01:48 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it ←
15:02:07 <cygri> zakim, fadi_ is with cygri
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, fadi_ is with cygri ←
15:02:12 <Zakim> +fadi_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +fadi_; got it ←
15:02:28 <sandro> scribe: sandro
(Scribe set to Sandro Hawke)
15:03:19 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:03:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, Sunlight, ??P27, martin, +1.202.690.aabb, +1.617.521.aacc (muted), +1.510.643.aadd, +0789798aaee (muted), cygri, ??P43
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, Sunlight, ??P27, martin, +1.202.690.aabb, +1.617.521.aacc (muted), +1.510.643.aadd, +0789798aaee (muted), cygri, ??P43 ←
15:03:23 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
zakim, who is talking? ←
15:03:23 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, fadi_
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, fadi_ ←
15:03:23 <Zakim> Sunlight has Luigi, David
Zakim IRC Bot: Sunlight has Luigi, David ←
15:03:25 <Zakim> + +1.617.619.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.619.aagg ←
15:03:33 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P27 (10%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P27 (10%) ←
15:03:59 <sandro> zakim, aabb is George
zakim, aabb is George ←
15:03:59 <Zakim> +George; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +George; got it ←
15:04:19 <sandro> zakim, aacc is Kate
zakim, aacc is Kate ←
15:04:19 <Zakim> +Kate; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Kate; got it ←
15:04:42 <sandro> zakim, aadd is Erik
zakim, aadd is Erik ←
15:04:42 <Zakim> +Erik; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Erik; got it ←
15:05:08 <RichW> 617-521 is Rich Wolverton from the Commonwealth of Mass
Scribe problem: the name 'RichW' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'RichW' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown RichW: 617-521 is Rich Wolverton from the Commonwealth of Mass ←
15:05:29 <Zakim> + +1.410.336.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.410.336.aahh ←
15:05:42 <Zakim> +??P48
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P48 ←
15:05:54 <Zakim> + +1.202.564.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.564.aaii ←
15:05:56 <Zakim> + +1.607.785.aajj
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.607.785.aajj ←
15:06:00 <Zakim> -??P43
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P43 ←
15:06:01 <kate_geyer> Sorry Rich, I might have nabed your number by mistake
Scribe problem: the name 'kate_geyer' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'kate_geyer' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown kate_geyer: Sorry Rich, I might have nabed your number by mistake ←
15:06:30 <sandro> zakim, kate is Rich_Wolverton
zakim, kate is Rich_Wolverton ←
15:06:30 <Zakim> +Rich_Wolverton; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Rich_Wolverton; got it ←
15:06:40 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:06:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, Sunlight, ??P27, martin, George, Rich_Wolverton (muted), Erik, +0789798aaee (muted), cygri, +1.617.619.aagg, +1.410.336.aahh, ??P48, +1.202.564.aaii,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, Sunlight, ??P27, martin, George, Rich_Wolverton (muted), Erik, +0789798aaee (muted), cygri, +1.617.619.aagg, +1.410.336.aahh, ??P48, +1.202.564.aaii, ←
15:06:44 <Zakim> ... +1.607.785.aajj (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.607.785.aajj (muted) ←
15:06:44 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, fadi_
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, fadi_ ←
15:06:46 <Zakim> Sunlight has Luigi, David
Zakim IRC Bot: Sunlight has Luigi, David ←
15:06:47 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:06:54 <sandro> zakim, aagg is Kate
zakim, aagg is Kate ←
15:06:54 <Zakim> +Kate; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Kate; got it ←
15:06:55 <RichW> kate is 617-619
Scribe problem: the name 'RichW' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'RichW' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown RichW: kate is 617-619 ←
15:06:55 <vassilios> HI Vasilios just joined through skype
Vassilios Peristeras: HI Vasilios just joined through skype ←
15:07:14 <Cory> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Cory
Cory Casanave: Zakim, [IPcaller] is Cory ←
15:07:14 <Zakim> +Cory; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Cory; got it ←
15:07:47 <edsu> hmm, conference is full?
Ed Summers: hmm, conference is full? ←
15:08:40 <sandro> edsu, did you try pressing *0 for the operator and askin gthem to add ytou>?
edsu, did you try pressing *0 for the operator and askin gthem to add ytou>? ←
15:08:52 <mib_en6uda> who am i?
Scribe problem: the name 'mib_en6uda' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'mib_en6uda' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown mib_en6uda: who am i? ←
15:09:47 <jonphipps> zakim, +1.607.785.aajj is jonphipps
Scribe problem: the name 'jonphipps' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jonphipps' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jonphipps: zakim, +1.607.785.aajj is jonphipps ←
15:09:47 <Zakim> +jonphipps; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jonphipps; got it ←
15:10:02 <mib_en6uda> who am i now?
Scribe problem: the name 'mib_en6uda' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'mib_en6uda' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown mib_en6uda: who am i now? ←
15:10:20 <cygri> zakim, who is on the phone?
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:10:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, Sunlight, ??P27, martin, George, Rich_Wolverton (muted), Erik, +0789798aaee (muted), cygri, Kate, +1.410.336.aahh, ??P48, +1.202.564.aaii, jonphipps
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, Sunlight, ??P27, martin, George, Rich_Wolverton (muted), Erik, +0789798aaee (muted), cygri, Kate, +1.410.336.aahh, ??P48, +1.202.564.aaii, jonphipps ←
15:10:24 <Zakim> ... (muted), Cory
Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), Cory ←
15:10:24 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, fadi_
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, fadi_ ←
15:10:26 <Zakim> Sunlight has Luigi, David
Zakim IRC Bot: Sunlight has Luigi, David ←
15:10:34 <ww> william waites here +44 789 798 9965 from OKF
Scribe problem: the name 'ww' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'ww' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown ww: william waites here +44 789 798 9965 from OKF ←
15:10:46 <li> hi this is Li Ding from RPI
Li Ding: hi this is Li Ding from RPI ←
15:11:02 <li> I cannot join the telecon as I have a conflict telecon right now
Li Ding: I cannot join the telecon as I have a conflict telecon right now ←
15:11:24 <li> but I will stay in IRC, would there be anyone help scribing the conversation?
Li Ding: but I will stay in IRC, would there be anyone help scribing the conversation? ←
15:11:44 <sandro> topic: New introductions
15:11:46 <Zakim> -Cory
Zakim IRC Bot: -Cory ←
15:11:52 <mib_en6uda> it seems like i am unable to get a useful user name... so this weird identity is me: Erik Wilde
Scribe problem: the name 'mib_en6uda' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'mib_en6uda' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown mib_en6uda: it seems like i am unable to get a useful user name... so this weird identity is me: Erik Wilde ←
15:12:09 <Zakim> +??P10
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10 ←
15:12:10 <sandro> sandro
sandro ←
15:12:12 <sandro> david james
david james ←
15:12:39 <Cory> Zakim, ??p10 is Cory
Cory Casanave: Zakim, ??p10 is Cory ←
15:12:39 <Zakim> +Cory; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Cory; got it ←
15:12:40 <sandro> luigi
luigi ←
15:12:42 <sandro> Martín Álvarez
Martín Álvarez ←
15:12:56 <edsu> mib_en6uda: /nick dret ?
Scribe problem: the name 'mib_en6uda' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adam Harvey Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Chris Beer Christopher Testa Clifford Thompson Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Norheim David Osimo Don Brutzman Ed Summers Fadi Maali George Thomas Hugh Barnes Hugh Glaser Ilker Karakas Jacob Mumm Jamal Shahin James Hendler Jeremiah Albrant John Sheridan John Wonderlich Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Ken Fischer Kendall Clark Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Lanfranco Marasso Leigh Dodds Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Mathew Gilliland Michael Aisenberg Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mohamed ZERGAOUI Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Samuel Deskin Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Steve Harris Suzanne Acar Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Thomas Bandholtz Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown mib_en6uda: /nick dret ? [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
15:13:10 <mib_en6uda> yes, that would nice...
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Unknown mib_en6uda: yes, that would nice... ←
15:13:26 <dret> aha! thanks, @edau
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Unknown dret: aha! thanks, @edau ←
15:13:29 <sandro> George Thomas
George Thomas ←
15:13:35 <edsu> dret: sure :-)
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Unknown dret: sure :-) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
15:13:58 <edsu> sandro: does an oeprator eventually answer? i've been waiting about 3 mins
Sandro Hawke: does an oeprator eventually answer? i've been waiting about 3 mins [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
15:13:59 <RichW> Rich Wolverton from Comm of Mass Supporting ODI
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Unknown RichW: Rich Wolverton from Comm of Mass Supporting ODI ←
15:14:01 <sandro> Rich_Wolverton
Rich_Wolverton ←
15:14:25 <sandro> sorry, edsu there's just one and she must have stepped away from her desk. :-(
sorry, edsu there's just one and she must have stepped away from her desk. :-( ←
15:14:44 <sandro> edsu, I've pinged people in the offices near her to see if they can find her.
edsu, I've pinged people in the offices near her to see if they can find her. ←
15:14:52 <sandro> Erik Wilde
Erik Wilde ←
15:15:00 <edsu> ok, no worries .... i'll hang on the line
Ed Summers: ok, no worries .... i'll hang on the line ←
15:15:27 <sandro> Richard Cyganiak,
Richard Cyganiak, ←
15:15:33 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
zakim, who is talking? ←
15:15:44 <sandro> Fadi Maali
Fadi Maali ←
15:15:44 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Cory (14%), ??P27 (17%), cygri (36%), jonphipps (9%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Cory (14%), ??P27 (17%), cygri (36%), jonphipps (9%) ←
15:16:01 <sandro> Kate Geyer
Kate Geyer ←
15:16:24 <sandro> Jon Phipps
Jon Phipps ←
15:16:47 <sandro> Cory Casanave
Cory Casanave ←
15:16:56 <vassilios> Vassilios Peristeras from the DERI team
Vassilios Peristeras: Vassilios Peristeras from the DERI team ←
15:17:03 <sandro> Brand Neimann
Brand Neimann ←
15:17:28 <sandro> Niklas Lindström
Niklas Lindström ←
15:17:38 <Zakim> +[LC]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[LC] ←
15:17:49 <edsu> Zakim, LC is edsu
Ed Summers: Zakim, LC is edsu ←
15:17:49 <Zakim> +edsu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +edsu; got it ←
15:17:50 <sandro> Dan Thomas, DC
Dan Thomas, DC ←
15:19:13 <sandro> William
William ←
15:19:54 <sandro> next-scribe: Ed
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Unknown next-scribe: Ed ←
15:20:16 <sandro> agenda: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/2010-04-22
15:20:33 <sandro> topic: Presentations of existing work
15:21:21 <sandro> please keep it short -- 3 to 5 minutes, pointers to more details
please keep it short -- 3 to 5 minutes, pointers to more details ←
15:21:27 <edsu> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/DC-SKOS
Ed Summers: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/DC-SKOS ←
15:21:37 <sandro> subtopic: Ed Summers, Brief Intro to Dublin Core and SKOS
15:22:11 <sandro> (page looks great, Ed)
(page looks great, Ed) ←
15:22:25 <sandro> edsu: I imagine most folks are familiar with DC and SKOS
Ed Summers: I imagine most folks are familiar with DC and SKOS ←
15:22:44 <sandro> edsu: DC started in 1995 to create a core set of elements to describe documents in the internet
Ed Summers: DC started in 1995 to create a core set of elements to describe documents in the internet ←
15:23:06 <sandro> edsu: ... workshop in Dublin, Ohio. 13 elements. Meeting every years since then.
Ed Summers: ... workshop in Dublin, Ohio. 13 elements. Meeting every years since then. ←
15:23:16 <sandro> ... turned into IETF and NISO/ISO standards
... turned into IETF and NISO/ISO standards ←
15:23:32 <sandro> ... co-evolved with RDF, due to people like Eric Miller
... co-evolved with RDF, due to people like Eric Miller ←
15:23:53 <sandro> ... DC has its own "Abstract Model", the way they make descriptions, very similar to RDF model
... DC has its own "Abstract Model", the way they make descriptions, very similar to RDF model ←
15:24:08 <sandro> ... expresses vocabulary in RDF, (DC Terms)
... expresses vocabulary in RDF, (DC Terms) ←
15:24:27 <sandro> ... I have links to how widely it's used.
... I have links to how widely it's used. ←
15:24:42 <DavidJames> I'm having trouble logging into the wiki. When the meeting is over, perhaps someone can help?
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Unknown DavidJames: I'm having trouble logging into the wiki. When the meeting is over, perhaps someone can help? ←
15:25:39 <Zakim> -martin
Zakim IRC Bot: -martin ←
15:25:41 <sandro> edsu: SKOS. 1999, mostly through EU projects. in 2004 moved to W3C. Jon Phipps was part of that.
Ed Summers: SKOS. 1999, mostly through EU projects. in 2004 moved to W3C. Jon Phipps was part of that. ←
15:25:58 <sandro> ... defined in "SKOS Reference" A W3C Recommendation in 2009.
... defined in "SKOS Reference" A W3C Recommendation in 2009. ←
15:26:42 <danbri> (the work started in DESIRE EU project - http://www.desire.org/html/research/deliverables/D3.6/d36b.html ... then Limber and SWAD-Europe. Thanks, EU taxpayers...)
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Unknown danbri: (the work started in DESIRE EU project - http://www.desire.org/html/research/deliverables/D3.6/d36b.html ... then Limber and SWAD-Europe. Thanks, EU taxpayers...) ←
15:26:44 <sandro> ... People with various controlled vocabs; skos lets them easily mint URIs for them, without re-engineering that whole information space (eg to fit into OWL). Lightweight way to get existing data of that sort onto the web.
... People with various controlled vocabs; skos lets them easily mint URIs for them, without re-engineering that whole information space (eg to fit into OWL). Lightweight way to get existing data of that sort onto the web. ←
15:27:02 <sandro> ... see examples on the web page. http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/DC-SKOS
... see examples on the web page. http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/DC-SKOS ←
15:27:40 <fadi_> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/DERI_dcat_Demonstrator
Fadi Maali: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/DERI_dcat_Demonstrator ←
15:27:43 <sandro> subtopic: DERI's dcat, Fadi
15:28:09 <sandro> fadi: dcat is an RDF vocabulary to represent government data catalogs.
Fadi Maali: dcat is an RDF vocabulary to represent government data catalogs. ←
15:28:26 <sandro> ... design was informed by analyzing existing catalogs.
... design was informed by analyzing existing catalogs. ←
15:28:40 <sandro> ... we looked at what attributes existing catalogs used
... we looked at what attributes existing catalogs used ←
15:28:54 <sandro> ... then we looked at the data, to see how consistently it was used
... then we looked at the data, to see how consistently it was used ←
15:29:06 <sandro> ... main entities are Dataset and Catalog
... main entities are Dataset and Catalog ←
15:29:15 <ww> question re: dcat:granularity could perhaps be dcat:spatialGranularity and dcat:temporalGranularity?
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Unknown ww: question re: dcat:granularity could perhaps be dcat:spatialGranularity and dcat:temporalGranularity? ←
15:29:39 <sandro> ... we tried to use skos:Concept
... we tried to use skos:Concept ←
15:29:59 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
zakim, who is talking? ←
15:30:11 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P27 (13%), cygri (37%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P27 (13%), cygri (37%) ←
15:30:27 <sandro> subtopic: CTIC's Dataset Catalog Vocabulary and “meta-catalog” (Martin)
15:30:33 <sandro> martin???
martin??? ←
15:30:40 <sandro> zakim, where is martin?
zakim, where is martin? ←
15:30:40 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I do not understand your question
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, sandro, I do not understand your question ←
15:30:42 <martin> I cannot connect to the conference, Zakim sais that it's full
Martín Álvarez: I cannot connect to the conference, Zakim sais that it's full ←
15:30:54 <sandro> martin, press *0 to get the operator to add you
martin, press *0 to get the operator to add you ←
15:31:11 <lindstream> Re. distribution/updates: quite orthogonal. I like how dady extends void with that.
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Unknown lindstream: Re. distribution/updates: quite orthogonal. I like how dady extends void with that. ←
15:31:26 <sandro> if you can't get in, we'll do your presesntation next week. so sorry for not having enough space today.
if you can't get in, we'll do your presesntation next week. so sorry for not having enough space today. ←
15:31:41 <LuigiMontanez> http://nationaldatacatalog.com/
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Unknown LuigiMontanez: http://nationaldatacatalog.com/ ←
15:31:41 <sandro> subtopic: Sunlight Labs API proposal (David, Luigi)
15:31:43 <martin> I'm trying to contact an operator
Martín Álvarez: I'm trying to contact an operator ←
15:32:02 <sandro> DavidJames: National Data Catalog
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Unknown DavidJames: National Data Catalog ←
15:32:03 <Zakim> +martin
Zakim IRC Bot: +martin ←
15:32:15 <LuigiMontanez> http://wiki.sunlightlabs.com/Government_Data_Catalog_Guidelines
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Unknown LuigiMontanez: http://wiki.sunlightlabs.com/Government_Data_Catalog_Guidelines ←
15:32:25 <sandro> DavidJames: We're looking for a few things.
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Unknown DavidJames: We're looking for a few things. ←
15:32:30 <sandro> ... being ReSTful
... being ReSTful ←
15:32:50 <sandro> ... We view RDF as one way to express our data, but we're also looking for other formats
... We view RDF as one way to express our data, but we're also looking for other formats ←
15:33:23 <sandro> ... developers really gravidate to lightweight solutions, and don't feel like RDF is worthwhile, from what they can tell.
... developers really gravidate to lightweight solutions, and don't feel like RDF is worthwhile, from what they can tell. ←
15:33:43 <sandro> ... We're planning to add RDF support down the right, but at this point our key job is building buy-in
... We're planning to add RDF support down the right, but at this point our key job is building buy-in ←
15:33:57 <sandro> ... We think the RDF community really understand how to make the data interoperable
... We think the RDF community really understand how to make the data interoperable ←
15:34:12 <sandro> ... We want to adopt principals of RDF, even if we're not using the RDF formats right now.
... We want to adopt principals of RDF, even if we're not using the RDF formats right now. ←
15:34:41 <sandro> topic: Atom and dataset updates
15:34:47 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
zakim, who is talking? ←
15:34:54 <Cory> Could whoever is typing mute please!
Cory Casanave: Could whoever is typing mute please! ←
15:34:58 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P27 (26%), cygri (60%), jonphipps (20%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P27 (26%), cygri (60%), jonphipps (20%) ←
15:35:13 <sandro> cygri: What are the reasons we should consider other solutions? Are there things not easily covered by RDF?
Richard Cyganiak: What are the reasons we should consider other solutions? Are there things not easily covered by RDF? ←
15:35:23 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
zakim, who is talking? ←
15:35:30 <edsu> uhoh
Ed Summers: uhoh ←
15:35:32 <LuigiMontanez> cannot hear
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Unknown LuigiMontanez: cannot hear ←
15:35:34 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P27 (18%), cygri (49%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P27 (18%), cygri (49%) ←
15:35:36 <vassilios> +1
15:35:41 <dret> terrible noise
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Unknown dret: terrible noise ←
15:35:42 <sandro> zakim, mute ??P27
zakim, mute ??P27 ←
15:35:42 <Zakim> ??P27 should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: ??P27 should now be muted ←
15:35:48 <DavidJames> We are being jammed by touch tones
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Unknown DavidJames: We are being jammed by touch tones ←
15:35:54 <edsu> damn!
Ed Summers: damn! ←
15:36:05 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
zakim, who is talking? ←
15:36:15 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: martin (3%), Sandro (46%), cygri (35%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: martin (3%), Sandro (46%), cygri (35%) ←
15:36:27 <sandro> q+
q+ ←
15:36:42 <sandro> q- Rich_Wolverton
q- Rich_Wolverton ←
15:37:48 <sandro> LuigiMontanez: It's mostly the tooling, as a developer. As a ruby or python developer. We're used to working with twitter or facebook API.
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Unknown LuigiMontanez: It's mostly the tooling, as a developer. As a ruby or python developer. We're used to working with twitter or facebook API. ←
15:37:52 <dan> JSON is a notation scheme, RDF is structure. here is example of RDF in JSON notation: http://n2.talis.com/wiki/RDF_JSON_Specification
Daniel Bennett: JSON is a notation scheme, RDF is structure. here is example of RDF in JSON notation: http://n2.talis.com/wiki/RDF_JSON_Specification ←
15:38:03 <sandro> ... they don't tread into RDF world, even though it might be good for them, too.
... they don't tread into RDF world, even though it might be good for them, too. ←
15:38:23 <sandro> ... it's not that RDF is more complicated; it's about the tooling.
... it's not that RDF is more complicated; it's about the tooling. ←
15:38:37 <sandro> ... ckan is the only one I know of.
... ckan is the only one I know of. ←
15:38:45 <sandro> ack sandro
ack sandro ←
15:38:49 <DavidJames> I just added a section called "Context / Philosophy" to http://wiki.sunlightlabs.com/Government_Data_Catalog_Guidelines
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Unknown DavidJames: I just added a section called "Context / Philosophy" to http://wiki.sunlightlabs.com/Government_Data_Catalog_Guidelines ←
15:38:50 <ww> dan: we've experimented with some success storing rdf/json in mongodb
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Daniel Bennett: we've experimented with some success storing rdf/json in mongodb [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ww ] ←
15:38:52 <sandro> http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/
http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/ ←
15:40:05 <lindstream> ww: cool
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Unknown ww: cool [ Scribe Assist by Unknown lindstream ] ←
15:40:35 <sandro> sandro: linked-data-api might be a good solution here [details]
Sandro Hawke: linked-data-api might be a good solution here [details] ←
15:40:51 <sandro> cygri: are you thinking about govt agencies, or developer/users?
Richard Cyganiak: are you thinking about govt agencies, or developer/users? ←
15:41:01 <sandro> DavidJames: Both.
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Unknown DavidJames: Both. ←
15:41:12 <dan> ww: similarly working on crime summary vocab using this approach: http://www.ipublic.org/wiki/Crime_summary_vocabulary
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Unknown ww: similarly working on crime summary vocab using this approach: http://www.ipublic.org/wiki/Crime_summary_vocabulary [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
15:41:15 <sandro> DavidJames: The govt agency usually just wants to make a website.
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Unknown DavidJames: The govt agency usually just wants to make a website. ←
15:41:27 <sandro> ... they say "Well, how do we provide the data/api"?
... they say "Well, how do we provide the data/api"? ←
15:41:32 <DavidJames> Actually, LuigiMontanez is talking :)
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Unknown DavidJames: Actually, LuigiMontanez is talking :) ←
15:41:38 <sandro> ... we say use existing/popular techniques
... we say use existing/popular techniques ←
15:41:44 <sandro> ... socrata [?]
... socrata [?] ←
15:42:00 <sandro> ... municipalities can get started very quickly that way
... municipalities can get started very quickly that way ←
15:42:30 <sandro> ... at sunlight we try to convcince gocts to put their data on line. we want to tell them to do the easiest thing for them, and unforunately right now, that's not RDF.
... at sunlight we try to convcince gocts to put their data on line. we want to tell them to do the easiest thing for them, and unforunately right now, that's not RDF. ←
15:42:59 <sandro> cygri: Quite a few catalogs are using simple structured forms, pre web, CSV. eg data.gov.
Richard Cyganiak: Quite a few catalogs are using simple structured forms, pre web, CSV. eg data.gov. ←
15:43:14 <sandro> cygri: So you want to go one step beyond this, eg json, xml.
Richard Cyganiak: So you want to go one step beyond this, eg json, xml. ←
15:43:37 <sandro> DavidJames: We're also looking for interop. I think that's where RDF really shines.
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Unknown DavidJames: We're also looking for interop. I think that's where RDF really shines. ←
15:43:56 <sandro> DavidJames: let's create this RDF spec, but make it easy for agencies and developers to adopt it.
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Unknown DavidJames: let's create this RDF spec, but make it easy for agencies and developers to adopt it. ←
15:44:01 <sandro> +1 sounds great!
+1 sounds great! ←
15:44:14 <sandro> [oops, that was Luigi, not David.]
[oops, that was Luigi, not David.] ←
15:44:40 <li> we have been playing around with CSV based catalog at data.gov
Li Ding: we have been playing around with CSV based catalog at data.gov ←
15:44:51 <sandro> DavidJames: Gov't agencies are ... somewhat behind. Permanent URLs would be great. Feeds would be great.
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Unknown DavidJames: Gov't agencies are ... somewhat behind. Permanent URLs would be great. Feeds would be great. ←
15:44:55 <Cory> +q
Cory Casanave: +q ←
15:45:05 <sandro> DavidJames: THEN we can push for RDF, etc. There's a LOT to do.
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Unknown DavidJames: THEN we can push for RDF, etc. There's a LOT to do. ←
15:45:17 <li> at RPI. and there are some imperfect entries
Li Ding: at RPI. and there are some imperfect entries ←
15:45:21 <sandro> DavidJames: We want to be careful about what we ask for. Short term + Long Term.
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Unknown DavidJames: We want to be careful about what we ask for. Short term + Long Term. ←
15:45:31 <sandro> ack DavidJames
ack DavidJames ←
15:45:39 <sandro> cygri: Great concrete requirements
Richard Cyganiak: Great concrete requirements ←
15:45:50 <sandro> cygri:What do you mean "feeds". In which sense?
Richard Cyganiak: What do you mean "feeds". In which sense? ←
15:46:01 <li> for short time goal, we should consider work out a minimal set of vocabulary agreed by all
Li Ding: for short time goal, we should consider work out a minimal set of vocabulary agreed by all ←
15:46:07 <li> and promote it
15:46:12 <sandro> DavidJames: Something that makes it easy for automatic importers, so it's easy to see when a record has changed.
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Unknown DavidJames: Something that makes it easy for automatic importers, so it's easy to see when a record has changed. ←
15:46:39 <sandro> cygri: To be able to sync, to keep up with changes, which of 3000 data sets have changed in last week
Richard Cyganiak: To be able to sync, to keep up with changes, which of 3000 data sets have changed in last week ←
15:47:09 <sandro> LuigiMontanez: Yes. To see which data sets have updated, and so developer knows when to pull and update their copy of the data.
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Unknown LuigiMontanez: Yes. To see which data sets have updated, and so developer knows when to pull and update their copy of the data. ←
15:47:14 <cygri> ack Cory
Richard Cyganiak: ack Cory ←
15:47:44 <George> you meant 'normal xml'
George Thomas: you meant 'normal xml' ←
15:47:56 <sandro> Cory: In making RDF, in the short term, the striped data format often gets overlooked. RDF *CAN* be written (striped) to look like normal XML, with an XML schema, and processed with normal XML tools. But it's ALSO normal RDF.
Cory Casanave: In making RDF, in the short term, the striped data format often gets overlooked. RDF *CAN* be written (striped) to look like normal XML, with an XML schema, and processed with normal XML tools. But it's ALSO normal RDF. ←
15:48:07 <LuigiMontanez> http://www.stripesframework.org/display/stripes/Home
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Unknown LuigiMontanez: http://www.stripesframework.org/display/stripes/Home ←
15:48:10 <sandro> +1 cory using constrained RDF/XML is nice.
+1 cory using constrained RDF/XML is nice. ←
15:48:21 <lindstream> have you seen: http://code.google.com/p/oort/wiki/Grit ? (self-promotion ;] )
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Unknown lindstream: have you seen: http://code.google.com/p/oort/wiki/Grit ? (self-promotion ;] ) ←
15:48:25 <sandro> George, I'm sure he did.
George, I'm sure he did. ←
15:48:52 <LuigiMontanez> Oops, think my link was wrong
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Unknown LuigiMontanez: Oops, think my link was wrong ←
15:49:00 <sandro> cygri: yes, regular serialization is one approach. GRDDL is another way.
Richard Cyganiak: yes, regular serialization is one approach. GRDDL is another way. ←
15:49:02 <lindstream> +q
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Unknown lindstream: +q ←
15:49:04 <LuigiMontanez> This look more correct as to what Cory was referring: http://www.w3.org/2001/10/stripes/
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Unknown LuigiMontanez: This look more correct as to what Cory was referring: http://www.w3.org/2001/10/stripes/ ←
15:49:19 <sandro> cygri: Also RDFa
Richard Cyganiak: Also RDFa ←
15:49:34 <sandro> cygri: Allows one to parse RDF graph out of HTML page.
Richard Cyganiak: Allows one to parse RDF graph out of HTML page. ←
15:49:38 <George> +1 Cory and cygri - developers need some schoolin'
George Thomas: +1 Cory and cygri - developers need some schoolin' ←
15:49:39 <li> regarding to the changes in data.gov, we even use twitter to publish the changes https://twitter.com/datagovwiki
Li Ding: regarding to the changes in data.gov, we even use twitter to publish the changes https://twitter.com/datagovwiki ←
15:49:55 <sandro> cygri: Ways to bridge RDF and what developers want.
Richard Cyganiak: Ways to bridge RDF and what developers want. ←
15:50:05 <sandro> ack lindstream
ack lindstream ←
15:50:13 <edsu> lindstream: you on the call?
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Unknown lindstream: you on the call? [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
15:50:18 <sandro> lindstream....
lindstream.... ←
15:50:30 <lindstream> i hear you, you don't hear me?
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Unknown lindstream: i hear you, you don't hear me? ←
15:50:31 <sandro> zakim, who is muted?
zakim, who is muted? ←
15:50:31 <Zakim> I see ??P27, Rich_Wolverton, +0789798aaee muted
Zakim IRC Bot: I see ??P27, Rich_Wolverton, +0789798aaee muted ←
15:50:56 <sandro> zakim, unmute ??P27
zakim, unmute ??P27 ←
15:50:56 <Zakim> ??P27 should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: ??P27 should no longer be muted ←
15:51:05 <edsu> sandro++
Ed Summers: sandro++ ←
15:51:35 <Cory> luigu - yes, http://www.w3.org/2001/10/stripes/ is it - often overlooked as a bridge. What this doesn't say is that it can also have an XSD
Cory Casanave: luigu - yes, http://www.w3.org/2001/10/stripes/ is it - often overlooked as a bridge. What this doesn't say is that it can also have an XSD ←
15:51:59 <sandro> lindstream: Regarding formats, that's a very important point. Not trick people into producing RDF, but make it transparent for them. They do namespaced XML and it just happens to be RDF. That's what I proposed with GRIT, a normalized RDF.
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Unknown lindstream: Regarding formats, that's a very important point. Not trick people into producing RDF, but make it transparent for them. They do namespaced XML and it just happens to be RDF. That's what I proposed with GRIT, a normalized RDF. ←
15:52:13 <sandro> (I call this "rigid RDF" myself.)
(I call this "rigid RDF" myself.) ←
15:52:24 <ww> support for serialising striped xml in the usual tools?
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Unknown ww: support for serialising striped xml in the usual tools? ←
15:52:27 <li> AT RPI we have already experimenting RDFa for metadata publishing, here is an example http://data-gov.tw.rpi.edu/wiki/Dataset_34, and the parsed RDFa can be found at http://data-gov.tw.rpi.edu/ws/lodcx.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdata-gov.tw.rpi.edu%2Fwiki%2FDataset_34&operation=test. Further more, the RDFa data can be used to enrich search result, e.g. http://dat
Li Ding: AT RPI we have already experimenting RDFa for metadata publishing, here is an example http://data-gov.tw.rpi.edu/wiki/Dataset_34, and the parsed RDFa can be found at http://data-gov.tw.rpi.edu/ws/lodcx.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdata-gov.tw.rpi.edu%2Fwiki%2FDataset_34&operation=test. Further more, the RDFa data can be used to enrich search result, e.g. http://dat ←
15:52:34 <li> http://data-gov.tw.rpi.edu/ws/lodcs.php?query=earthquake
Li Ding: http://data-gov.tw.rpi.edu/ws/lodcs.php?query=earthquake ←
15:52:57 <sandro> cygri: note on IRC the RPI examples
Richard Cyganiak: note on IRC the RPI examples ←
15:53:05 <sandro> cygri: Opinions on RDFa?
Richard Cyganiak: Opinions on RDFa? ←
15:53:27 <sandro> q+ to comment on dcat scope
q+ to comment on dcat scope ←
15:53:38 <sandro> cygri: Is RDF acceptable to folks?
Richard Cyganiak: Is RDF acceptable to folks? ←
15:53:47 <sandro> zakim, mute ??P27
zakim, mute ??P27 ←
15:53:47 <Zakim> ??P27 should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: ??P27 should now be muted ←
15:53:56 <lindstream> I like RDFa a lot, but's afaik it can only be viewed with an "RDF eye"
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Unknown lindstream: I like RDFa a lot, but's afaik it can only be viewed with an "RDF eye" ←
15:54:01 <sandro> zakim, ??P27 is lindstream
zakim, ??P27 is lindstream ←
15:54:01 <Zakim> +lindstream; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +lindstream; got it ←
15:54:07 <sandro> lindstream, I muted you because of noise
lindstream, I muted you because of noise ←
15:54:42 <lindstream> (sandro: my line is very poor right now)
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Unknown lindstream: (sandro: my line is very poor right now) ←
15:54:44 <sandro> someone: data.gov.uk rdfa is made by drupal front-end, it's completelye disconnected from backend rdf store
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Unknown someone: data.gov.uk rdfa is made by drupal front-end, it's completelye disconnected from backend rdf store ←
15:55:03 <vassilios> who said this?
Vassilios Peristeras: who said this? ←
15:55:05 <sandro> someone_else: that's unfortunately
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Unknown William_else: that's unfortunately ←
15:55:13 <DavidJames> Luigi and I are taking a look at some fairly recent open source code for Ruby and RDF here: http://github.com/bendiken/rdf
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Unknown DavidJames: Luigi and I are taking a look at some fairly recent open source code for Ruby and RDF here: http://github.com/bendiken/rdf ←
15:55:55 <sandro> s/someone/William
15:56:04 <sandro> q?
q? ←
15:56:09 <li> At RPI, we add an extension to semantic wiki to export the backend RDF into RDFa
Li Ding: At RPI, we add an extension to semantic wiki to export the backend RDF into RDFa ←
15:56:33 <li> there are a little bit issues on usage of vocabulary, because RDFa consumers are more picky
Li Ding: there are a little bit issues on usage of vocabulary, because RDFa consumers are more picky ←
15:56:39 <edsu> q+ to suggest dcat+rdfa note
Ed Summers: q+ to suggest dcat+rdfa note ←
15:56:48 <li> e.g. yahoo and google are taking different RDFa vocabulary
Li Ding: e.g. yahoo and google are taking different RDFa vocabulary ←
15:56:48 <sandro> cyg: is there somewhere easy to start, here?
Richard Cyganiak: is there somewhere easy to start, here? ←
15:57:10 <sandro> cyg: the updates/feeds issue was interesting. I don';t know how to handle that in pure RDF environment.
Richard Cyganiak: the updates/feeds issue was interesting. I don';t know how to handle that in pure RDF environment. ←
15:57:20 <sandro> q?
q? ←
15:57:42 <li> if we want to get major search engines to take the RDFa, we should probably convince them the value of RDFa vocabulary
Li Ding: if we want to get major search engines to take the RDFa, we should probably convince them the value of RDFa vocabulary ←
15:57:56 <sandro> cygri: I also wanted to talk about scope for this group. What do we want to deliver, what are the artificacts?
Richard Cyganiak: I also wanted to talk about scope for this group. What do we want to deliver, what are the artificacts? ←
15:58:08 <sandro> cyg: 1. Nail down a vocabulary, in a vocab reference document
Richard Cyganiak: 1. Nail down a vocabulary, in a vocab reference document ←
15:58:27 <sandro> ... 2. Implementor's guide, telling folks how to use it in practice.
... 2. Implementor's guide, telling folks how to use it in practice. ←
15:58:41 <sandro> ... 3. perhaps a Demonstrator
... 3. perhaps a Demonstrator ←
15:59:11 <sandro> ... 4. Use Cases? Requirements? Test Cases? Dunno if those are appropirate here.
... 4. Use Cases? Requirements? Test Cases? Dunno if those are appropirate here. ←
15:59:18 <edsu> +1
Ed Summers: +1 ←
15:59:21 <lindstream> Perhaps dcat should provide a separate "dcat distribution types" vocab? Or leave notification details out, and recommend (link to) existing or upcoming methods (AtomOwl, dady..)?
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Unknown lindstream: Perhaps dcat should provide a separate "dcat distribution types" vocab? Or leave notification details out, and recommend (link to) existing or upcoming methods (AtomOwl, dady..)? ←
15:59:30 <sandro> proposed: extend by 15 mins
PROPOSED: extend by 15 mins ←
15:59:30 <Cory> +1
Cory Casanave: +1 ←
15:59:31 <sandro> +1
+1 ←
15:59:33 <DavidJames> +1 15 minute extension
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Unknown DavidJames: +1 15 minute extension ←
15:59:36 <RichW> +1
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Unknown RichW: +1 ←
15:59:37 <lindstream> + 1 15 min
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Unknown lindstream: + 1 15 min ←
15:59:38 <ww> +1
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Unknown ww: +1 ←
15:59:39 <kate_geyer> +1
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Unknown kate_geyer: +1 ←
15:59:39 <martin> +1
Martín Álvarez: +1 ←
15:59:42 <vassilios> +1
15:59:46 <sandro> resolved: extend by 15 mins
RESOLVED: extend by 15 mins ←
15:59:47 <dan> +1
Daniel Bennett: +1 ←
16:00:21 <lindstream> (not, leave out dcat:distribution, but the details it refers to)
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Unknown lindstream: (not, leave out dcat:distribution, but the details it refers to) ←
16:01:19 <dret> +1
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Unknown dret: +1 ←
16:01:41 <sandro> sandro: let's focus on building an RDF vocabulary, here, and deal with the RDF-world bridge elsewhere.
Sandro Hawke: let's focus on building an RDF vocabulary, here, and deal with the RDF-world bridge elsewhere. ←
16:01:41 <cygri> sandro: propose to focus on the RDF vocab in this group, being aware that there's more work to do afterwards
Sandro Hawke: propose to focus on the RDF vocab in this group, being aware that there's more work to do afterwards [ Scribe Assist by Richard Cyganiak ] ←
16:02:08 <sandro> sandro: also multiple implementions is better than one demonstrator.
Sandro Hawke: also multiple implementions is better than one demonstrator. ←
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16:02:20 <DavidJames> I like the idea of keeping this group focused on RDF.
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Unknown DavidJames: I like the idea of keeping this group focused on RDF. ←
16:02:22 <dret> what about patterns of how to expose certain services around the vocabulary in plain web ways?
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Unknown dret: what about patterns of how to expose certain services around the vocabulary in plain web ways? ←
16:02:33 <sandro> edsu: Yes, vocab note, and implementors guide. But also guide to how to use this outside of just RDF.
Ed Summers: Yes, vocab note, and implementors guide. But also guide to how to use this outside of just RDF. ←
16:02:35 <li> at RPI, we would also like to contribute some thought on data.gov vocabularies
Li Ding: at RPI, we would also like to contribute some thought on data.gov vocabularies ←
16:02:40 <DavidJames> Of course, for our work, we're interested in applying the principles to other formats as well.
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Unknown DavidJames: Of course, for our work, we're interested in applying the principles to other formats as well. ←
16:02:42 <li> based on our experience,
Li Ding: based on our experience, ←
16:02:44 <sandro> q?
q? ←
16:02:47 <sandro> ack sandro
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16:02:47 <Zakim> sandro, you wanted to comment on dcat scope
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16:02:49 <sandro> ack edsu
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16:02:49 <Zakim> edsu, you wanted to suggest dcat+rdfa note
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16:03:28 <sandro> vassilios: Maybe we're mixing two discussions that we don't need to mix. 1. the vocab; 2. the format for the vocab.
Vassilios Peristeras: Maybe we're mixing two discussions that we don't need to mix. 1. the vocab; 2. the format for the vocab. ←
16:03:41 <sandro> vassilios: Maybe have vocab in a neutral format, eg UML.
Vassilios Peristeras: Maybe have vocab in a neutral format, eg UML. ←
16:03:44 <dret> separating a data model and services provided around that vocabulary would be a very good idea.
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Unknown dret: separating a data model and services provided around that vocabulary would be a very good idea. ←
16:04:05 <lindstream> Re. updates w. Atom or alternatives: see summary by Leigh Dodds: http://www.ldodds.com/blog/2010/04/rdf-dataset-notifications/
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Unknown lindstream: Re. updates w. Atom or alternatives: see summary by Leigh Dodds: http://www.ldodds.com/blog/2010/04/rdf-dataset-notifications/ ←
16:04:27 <sandro> cyg: I'd be concerned about leaving concrete rep open, then we wont really get interop.)
Richard Cyganiak: I'd be concerned about leaving concrete rep open, then we wont really get interop.) ←
16:04:34 <Cory> Not fully open - you need a closed set of rpresentations
Cory Casanave: Not fully open - you need a closed set of rpresentations ←
16:04:49 <vassilios> +1 to cory
Vassilios Peristeras: +1 to cory ←
16:04:49 <sandro> cyg: Also, if we document a number of different ways, then, again, we don't get interop.
Richard Cyganiak: Also, if we document a number of different ways, then, again, we don't get interop. ←
16:04:52 <dret> do you want to propose a standard, or best practices? i think this is a very important distinction to make
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Unknown dret: do you want to propose a standard, or best practices? i think this is a very important distinction to make ←
16:05:00 <sandro> +1 cygri interop is top priority.
+1 cygri interop is top priority. ←
16:05:49 <li> I think FOAF is a good case to follow
Li Ding: I think FOAF is a good case to follow ←
16:05:55 <sandro> erik: It's also important to have services. how you communicate updates, too.
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Unknown erik: It's also important to have services. how you communicate updates, too. ←
16:06:27 <sandro> erik: this big problems: not just modeling the data, but how you use the data, and build services on top of it.
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Unknown erik: this big problems: not just modeling the data, but how you use the data, and build services on top of it. ←
16:06:32 <sandro> ack DavidJames
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16:06:55 <sandro> DavidJames: Where are people leaning on separating vocabulary from format
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Unknown DavidJames: Where are people leaning on separating vocabulary from format ←
16:07:27 <lindstream> .. my thoughts on this topic are mostly at: http://code.google.com/p/court/
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Unknown lindstream: .. my thoughts on this topic are mostly at: http://code.google.com/p/court/ ←
16:07:36 <dret> vocabularies and servoces are two separate thongs, and both are essential for building interactions.
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Unknown dret: vocabularies and servoces are two separate thongs, and both are essential for building interactions. ←
16:07:46 <dret> things, actually ;-)
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Unknown dret: things, actually ;-) ←
16:08:01 <sandro> cyg: Difference between UML and RDF is fairly minor.
Richard Cyganiak: Difference between UML and RDF is fairly minor. ←
16:08:37 <Cory> We generaly do a UML model first, and produce RDF - but can also produce other formats
Cory Casanave: We generaly do a UML model first, and produce RDF - but can also produce other formats ←
16:08:39 <ww> however it should be encouraged that e.g. json type services represent their data in the same shape as the rdf (or abstract) model
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Unknown ww: however it should be encouraged that e.g. json type services represent their data in the same shape as the rdf (or abstract) model ←
16:08:58 <Zakim> -lindstream
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Zakim IRC Bot: -lindstream ←
16:09:26 <George> +1 sandro
George Thomas: +1 sandro ←
16:09:34 <li> if the vocabulary is fairly annotations and flat, we don't need a very complex description other than dublin core
Li Ding: if the vocabulary is fairly annotations and flat, we don't need a very complex description other than dublin core ←
16:09:44 <sandro> sandro: I don't see an advantage to going more abstract that what dcat does, RDF, with UML view of it.
Sandro Hawke: I don't see an advantage to going more abstract that what dcat does, RDF, with UML view of it. ←
16:09:47 <jonphipps> think abstract model is good idea, but not without concrete representations
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Unknown jonphipps: think abstract model is good idea, but not without concrete representations ←
16:09:51 <Cory> +1 on model first
Cory Casanave: +1 on model first ←
16:09:53 <dret> servives?
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Unknown dret: servives? ←
16:10:36 <li> therefore, RDF rather than UML is good enough, I don't think Microformat vocabulary used UML for definition
Li Ding: therefore, RDF rather than UML is good enough, I don't think Microformat vocabulary used UML for definition ←
16:10:48 <sandro> cyg: Think of the UML diagram in dcat, and imagine it without prefixes. Should we do that? Is that an important deliverable?
Richard Cyganiak: Think of the UML diagram in dcat, and imagine it without prefixes. Should we do that? Is that an important deliverable? ←
16:10:50 <dret> +1
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Unknown dret: +1 ←
16:10:56 <sandro> -1 ehhh
-1 ehhh ←
16:10:58 <kate_geyer> kate_geyer agrees with edsu
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Unknown kate_geyer: kate_geyer agrees with edsu ←
16:10:59 <li> the general principle is to keep everything as simple as possible
Li Ding: the general principle is to keep everything as simple as possible ←
16:11:01 <George> -1
George Thomas: -1 ←
16:11:08 <fadi_> -1
Fadi Maali: -1 ←
16:11:11 <jonphipps> 1 edsu
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Unknown jonphipps: 1 edsu ←
16:11:21 <li> requirement users to understand UML could be extra cost
Li Ding: requirement users to understand UML could be extra cost ←
16:11:25 <DavidJames> +1
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Unknown DavidJames: +1 ←
16:11:30 <George> +1 sandro
George Thomas: +1 sandro ←
16:11:47 <sandro> sandro: Maybe this is mostly editorial, for later.
Sandro Hawke: Maybe this is mostly editorial, for later. ←
16:11:57 <vassilios> do you believe that users understand better rdf than uml?
Vassilios Peristeras: do you believe that users understand better rdf than uml? ←
16:11:58 <DavidJames> I agree, deriving a JSON representation isn't a big problem (for this group at least)
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Unknown DavidJames: I agree, deriving a JSON representation isn't a big problem (for this group at least) ←
16:12:00 <dret> i like the idea of an abstract model, and would like to add a set of services around interactions.
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Unknown dret: i like the idea of an abstract model, and would like to add a set of services around interactions. ←
16:12:21 <edsu> dret: so rdfs isn't good enough for the model?
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Unknown dret: so rdfs isn't good enough for the model? [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
16:12:25 <DavidJames> And there are multiple, interchangable RDF serializations. I don't think we should worry about which is "official"
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Unknown DavidJames: And there are multiple, interchangable RDF serializations. I don't think we should worry about which is "official" ←
16:12:30 <sandro> cygri: so, should we do an RDF schema for classes/properties ---- the diagram with boxes and arrows. An abstract model, we can layer on?
Richard Cyganiak: so, should we do an RDF schema for classes/properties ---- the diagram with boxes and arrows. An abstract model, we can layer on? ←
16:12:36 <DavidJames> +!
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Unknown DavidJames: +! ←
16:12:37 <sandro> +1 (if I understood it right.)
+1 (if I understood it right.) ←
16:12:38 <DavidJames> +1
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Unknown DavidJames: +1 ←
16:12:39 <cygri> +1
Richard Cyganiak: +1 ←
16:12:43 <Cory> Yes, your model should be representation independent -
Cory Casanave: Yes, your model should be representation independent - ←
16:12:52 <vassilios> +1 to cory
Vassilios Peristeras: +1 to cory ←
16:12:56 <martin> +1
Martín Álvarez: +1 ←
16:12:58 <vassilios> this is the point
Vassilios Peristeras: this is the point ←
16:13:13 <vassilios> to make it computer independent model according to MDA
Vassilios Peristeras: to make it computer independent model according to MDA ←
16:13:29 <edsu> +1 for what sandro said, if uml means a nice human readable html page
Ed Summers: +1 for what sandro said, if uml means a nice human readable html page ←
16:13:29 <sandro> sandro: I'm understanding that we'll design it in RDFS terms, but also be aware of what it looks liek in UML terms.
Sandro Hawke: I'm understanding that we'll design it in RDFS terms, but also be aware of what it looks liek in UML terms. ←
16:13:39 <Cory> The adavantage of UML for this is mostly that it is simpler to understand and can then map to multiple formats
Cory Casanave: The adavantage of UML for this is mostly that it is simpler to understand and can then map to multiple formats ←
16:13:46 <sandro> Yes, human readable. Not UML software readable.
Yes, human readable. Not UML software readable. ←
16:13:50 <sandro> q?
q? ←
16:13:52 <DavidJames> vassilios: what do you mean by MDA?
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Vassilios Peristeras: what do you mean by MDA? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown DavidJames ] ←
16:14:02 <vassilios> Model Driven Architecture
Vassilios Peristeras: Model Driven Architecture ←
16:14:10 <Cory> UML is software readable!
Cory Casanave: UML is software readable! ←
16:14:38 <George> this isn't an mda crowd - let the omg do that
George Thomas: this isn't an mda crowd - let the omg do that ←
16:14:50 <George> or someone like cory :)
George Thomas: or someone like cory :) ←
16:14:55 <sandro> edsu: RDF is a suitable data modeling language, and the right one for this crowd.
Ed Summers: RDF is a suitable data modeling language, and the right one for this crowd. ←
16:15:14 <dret> there are other structured data formats advocated by the w3c, with much wider availability of tooling and developers in the wild.
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Unknown dret: there are other structured data formats advocated by the w3c, with much wider availability of tooling and developers in the wild. ←
16:15:17 <lindstream> +1 on sticking to RDF for the modeling
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Unknown lindstream: +1 on sticking to RDF for the modeling ←
16:15:39 <DavidJames> I am happy to go with the group consensus on how we model
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Unknown DavidJames: I am happy to go with the group consensus on how we model ←
16:15:40 <sandro> edsu: The toolchains around data formats ... people want to work on documents sometimes .... let's make sure there are examples with RDFa and JSON etc.
Ed Summers: The toolchains around data formats ... people want to work on documents sometimes .... let's make sure there are examples with RDFa and JSON etc. ←
16:16:15 <Cory> I don't see RDF/UML as conflicting, they are ways to express the same underlying concepts.
Cory Casanave: I don't see RDF/UML as conflicting, they are ways to express the same underlying concepts. ←
16:16:17 <edsu> atom and rss too :-)
Ed Summers: atom and rss too :-) ←
16:16:39 <George> +1 cygri
George Thomas: +1 cygri ←
16:16:56 <jonphipps> +1 cygri
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Unknown jonphipps: +1 cygri ←
16:16:59 <sandro> cygri: We want to do a model thats independant from the concrete syntax or format that we might do in the end. We want to use RDFS as the modeling language. This DOES NOT mean folks have to use RDF/XML. It's about using RDFS as the way to construct our vocabulary.
Richard Cyganiak: We want to do a model thats independant from the concrete syntax or format that we might do in the end. We want to use RDFS as the modeling language. This DOES NOT mean folks have to use RDF/XML. It's about using RDFS as the way to construct our vocabulary. ←
16:17:00 <edsu> +1
Ed Summers: +1 ←
16:17:04 <sandro> +1 cygri
+1 cygri ←
16:17:07 <li> My point is not rejecting UML. For simplicity concern, we should have something simple enough for regular web developers to take
Li Ding: My point is not rejecting UML. For simplicity concern, we should have something simple enough for regular web developers to take ←
16:17:36 <dret> sorry for repeating myself, but i think having services is essential. this could also be abstract or concrete, but it would be very helpful as "best practices" for somebody trying to do this.
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Unknown dret: sorry for repeating myself, but i think having services is essential. this could also be abstract or concrete, but it would be very helpful as "best practices" for somebody trying to do this. ←
16:17:41 <DavidJames> I agree with modeling in RDF without thinking about particular serialization details. For this group, why should we care about the particular RDF serialization?
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Unknown DavidJames: I agree with modeling in RDF without thinking about particular serialization details. For this group, why should we care about the particular RDF serialization? ←
16:17:47 <jonphipps> +1 cygri: "using RDFS as the way to construct our vocabulary."
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Unknown jonphipps: +1 cygri: "using RDFS as the way to construct our vocabulary." ←
16:17:47 <sandro> cory: A UML model is easy for people to understand. The equivalen RDF rep, the equiv JSON rep, ... not a problem.
Cory Casanave: A UML model is easy for people to understand. The equivalen RDF rep, the equiv JSON rep, ... not a problem. ←
16:18:22 <sandro> cygri: is that agreement, Cory?
Richard Cyganiak: is that agreement, Cory? ←
16:18:41 <DavidJames> +1 RDF schema
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Unknown DavidJames: +1 RDF schema ←
16:18:41 <sandro> cory: UML is more often used, but RDFS is okay.
Cory Casanave: UML is more often used, but RDFS is okay. ←
16:18:54 <sandro> (time check)
(time check) ←
16:18:58 <edsu> dret: i agree, i think i heard cygri addressing this in the 'demonstrator' piece?
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Unknown dret: i agree, i think i heard cygri addressing this in the 'demonstrator' piece? [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
16:19:14 <Zakim> -George
Zakim IRC Bot: -George ←
16:19:39 <sandro> cygri: Erik, you stress the imporance of services. Would you agree that having an abstract model in the first place is useful for defining those services? Or do you need the services first?
Richard Cyganiak: Erik, you stress the imporance of services. Would you agree that having an abstract model in the first place is useful for defining those services? Or do you need the services first? ←
16:20:15 <sandro> dret: It would be good to have the model first. It might be hard to follow, if it's all abstract. "You might want to expose this bit of JSON", etc, easier to understand.
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Unknown dret: It would be good to have the model first. It might be hard to follow, if it's all abstract. "You might want to expose this bit of JSON", etc, easier to understand. ←
16:20:33 <sandro> dret: look at data model as static structures, AND servces as the way people interact with the data in that model.
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Unknown dret: look at data model as static structures, AND servces as the way people interact with the data in that model. ←
16:20:35 <DavidJames> We already extended 15 minutes, so I think we should be aware of the time...
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Unknown DavidJames: We already extended 15 minutes, so I think we should be aware of the time... ←
16:21:17 <edsu> sandro: sounds almost like the w3c egov social media compone
Sandro Hawke: sounds almost like the w3c egov social media component [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
16:21:19 <sandro> dret: recovery.gov initial folks were urged to publish as feeds, and didn't know how to do it. Having best practices and validation tools, so folks can test if their services are well behaved or not, that's goo dfor developers.
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Unknown dret: recovery.gov initial folks were urged to publish as feeds, and didn't know how to do it. Having best practices and validation tools, so folks can test if their services are well behaved or not, that's goo dfor developers. ←
16:21:28 <edsu> s/compone/component/
16:21:31 <sandro> cygri: out of time, thanks everyone!
Richard Cyganiak: out of time, thanks everyone! ←
16:21:43 <dret> thanks!
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Unknown dret: thanks! ←
16:21:46 <DavidJames> Thanks
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Unknown DavidJames: Thanks ←
16:21:49 <kate_geyer> thanks, all!
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Unknown kate_geyer: thanks, all! ←
16:21:49 <Zakim> -Sandro
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16:21:53 <Zakim> - +0789798aaee
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16:21:54 <Zakim> -Kate
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Kate ←
16:21:57 <lindstream> Erik: how open-ended a service? I'm thinking "an algorithmic resource for slices of time and/or category".. (delivering doc updates and/or changesets)
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Unknown Erik: how open-ended a service? I'm thinking "an algorithmic resource for slices of time and/or category".. (delivering doc updates and/or changesets) [ Scribe Assist by Unknown lindstream ] ←
16:21:59 <Zakim> -Rich_Wolverton
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16:22:00 <Zakim> -Erik
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Erik ←
16:22:01 <martin> thanks, bye
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16:22:01 <Zakim> -??P48
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16:22:02 <Zakim> -edsu
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16:22:09 <lindstream> thanks all
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Unknown lindstream: thanks all ←
16:22:09 <vassilios> thanks, bye
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16:22:10 <Zakim> -martin
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16:22:11 <Zakim> -cygri
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16:22:11 <Zakim> -jonphipps
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Zakim IRC Bot: -jonphipps ←
16:22:28 <edsu> cygri: nice job :-)
Richard Cyganiak: nice job :-) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
16:22:53 <jonphipps> hmmm. having trouble logging into the wiki with w3 login
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Unknown jonphipps: hmmm. having trouble logging into the wiki with w3 login ←
16:23:09 <jonphipps> anything different about it?
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Unknown jonphipps: anything different about it? ←
16:23:09 <dret> services can be whatever you like them to be. as simple as a feed with very static semantics, or as complex as a query language exposed somewhere. often, the best idea is to have something in the middle "form-based queries", so to speak.
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Unknown dret: services can be whatever you like them to be. as simple as a feed with very static semantics, or as complex as a query language exposed somewhere. often, the best idea is to have something in the middle "form-based queries", so to speak. ←
16:23:11 <edsu> jonphipps: i think it got changed up recently
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Unknown jonphipps: i think it got changed up recently [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
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16:23:40 <cygri> martin, sorry for skipping your topic in the end! would you be willing to show it next time?
Richard Cyganiak: martin, sorry for skipping your topic in the end! would you be willing to show it next time? ←
16:23:54 <dret> bye.
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Unknown dret: bye. ←
16:23:56 <martin> ok, no problem
Martín Álvarez: ok, no problem ←
16:24:07 <jonphipps> I was able to get onto the swdwg wiki earlier in the week
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Unknown jonphipps: I was able to get onto the swdwg wiki earlier in the week ←
16:24:10 <edsu> jonphipps: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2010Apr/0024.html
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Unknown jonphipps: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2010Apr/0024.html [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
16:24:24 <cygri> note to self: things always take twice as long as i'd like them to :-)
Richard Cyganiak: note to self: things always take twice as long as i'd like them to :-) ←
16:24:45 <jonphipps> oh, _very_ recently :-)
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Unknown jonphipps: oh, _very_ recently :-) ←
16:25:02 <jonphipps> btw, nicely done cygri
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Unknown jonphipps: btw, nicely done cygri ←
16:26:01 <edsu> fwiw, i added my dcat in atom strawman to the wiki http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/AtomStrawman
Ed Summers: fwiw, i added my dcat in atom strawman to the wiki http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/AtomStrawman ←
16:27:28 <lindstream> edsu: nice
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Ed Summers: nice [ Scribe Assist by Unknown lindstream ] ←
16:28:06 <edsu> lindstream: i imagine i may have goofed some things up, please feel free to edit
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Unknown lindstream: i imagine i may have goofed some things up, please feel free to edit [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
16:28:20 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Sunlight, in T&S_EGOV(LD TECH)10:00AM
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16:28:26 <Zakim> Attendees were Sandro, +1.202.955.aaaa, Luigi, David, [CTIC], +1.202.690.aabb, martin, +1.617.521.aacc, +1.510.643.aadd, +0789798aaee, +03539149aaff, cygri, fadi_, +1.617.619.aagg,
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16:29:31 <martin> cygri, thanks, I can present when you want
Martín Álvarez: cygri, thanks, I can present when you want ←
16:29:57 <lindstream> edsu: I'll take a closer look
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Ed Summers: I'll take a closer look [ Scribe Assist by Unknown lindstream ] ←
16:30:55 <sandro> ciao, lindstream !
ciao, lindstream ! ←
16:31:07 <edsu> seeya lindstream
Ed Summers: seeya lindstream ←
20:39:16 <sandro> danbri, you just joined on IRC, not the phone, right? I wasn't sure for the minutes.
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danbri, you just joined on IRC, not the phone, right? I wasn't sure for the minutes. ←
20:40:57 <sandro> (not that commonscribe has a way to work with that. there's a self.ircOnly but no way to set or display it. :-)
(not that commonscribe has a way to work with that. there's a self.ircOnly but no way to set or display it. :-) ←
20:54:07 <danbri> yup, just irc
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Unknown danbri: yup, just irc ←
20:54:47 <danbri> if i had the time i'd like to be more engaged; i made egov data something of a theme in http://ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=ARDevAmsterdam ..
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Unknown danbri: if i had the time i'd like to be more engaged; i made egov data something of a theme in http://ardevcamp.org/wiki/index.php?title=ARDevAmsterdam .. ←
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