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15:03:59 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 57 minutes
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15:04:00 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
15:04:00 <trackbot> Date: 10 November 2014
15:05:11 <ivan> Chair: Tzviya
15:05:51 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/C274A5503C851E43A8ED400AC86E0285046B089F98@SOM-MB.wiley.com
Ivan Herman: ivan has changed the topic to: agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/C274A5503C851E43A8ED400AC86E0285046B089F98@SOM-MB.wiley.com ←
15:27:41 <ivan> Regrets: Vlad, Michael_Miller, Thierry_Michel
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15:58:18 <Zakim> +duga
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15:58:27 <Zakim> +Tzviya
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15:58:55 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
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15:58:55 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
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15:58:57 <Zakim> +Ivan
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15:59:19 <Zakim> +[Safari]
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15:59:36 <ivan> zakim, Safari is Deborah
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15:59:37 <Zakim> +Deborah; got it
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15:59:48 <ivan> zakim, Safari.a is Liza
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15:59:50 <Zakim> +Liza; got it
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15:59:56 <Zakim> +azaroth
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16:00:46 <Zakim> +[Ugent]
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16:00:58 <bjdmeest> zakim, Ugent is me
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16:01:04 <bjdmeest> zakim, mute me
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16:01:45 <astearns> zakim, aaaa is me
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16:01:45 <Zakim> +astearns; got it
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16:02:18 <Zakim> +dauwhe
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16:02:23 <Zakim> +??P18
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16:02:30 <Zakim> +madi
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16:02:53 <tzviya> regrets clapierre, markus, thierry, michael_miller
Tzviya Siegman: regrets clapierre, markus, thierry, michael_miller ←
16:03:05 <Zakim> +??P20
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16:03:14 <Zakim> +Julie
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16:03:16 <murakami> zakim, ??P20 is me
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16:03:16 <Zakim> +murakami; got it
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16:03:45 <Zakim> +david_stroup
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16:04:07 <Karen> Chair: Tzviya
16:04:10 <Karen> Scribe: Karen
(Scribe set to Karen Myers)
16:04:26 <Karen> Tzviya: We learned in Santa Clara there are some quiet people who are good scribes!
Tzviya Siegman: We learned in Santa Clara there are some quiet people who are good scribes! ←
16:04:28 <ivan> scribenick: Karen
16:04:34 <Zakim> +pbelfanti
Zakim IRC Bot: +pbelfanti ←
16:05:00 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dpub-minutes.html
Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dpub-minutes.html ←
16:05:01 <Karen> Tzviya: First, let's first approve the minutes from the F2F
Tzviya Siegman: First, let's first approve the minutes from the F2F ←
16:05:04 <Karen> …first day here
…first day here ←
16:05:11 <Karen> …thank you for those who attended
…thank you for those who attended ←
16:05:12 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2014/10/31-dpub-minutes.html
Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/2014/10/31-dpub-minutes.html ←
16:05:17 <Karen> …and the second day here
…and the second day here ←
16:05:25 <Karen> …Comments or feedback?
…Comments or feedback? ←
16:05:29 <Karen> Ivan: My only comment
Ivan Herman: My only comment ←
16:05:40 <Karen> …not against acceptance, but I need to bring these together
…not against acceptance, but I need to bring these together ←
16:05:48 <Karen> …I tried to include names of the various observers
…I tried to include names of the various observers ←
16:06:01 <Karen> …I'm sure I forgot some, so please send me their names and let me know; I'll add
…I'm sure I forgot some, so please send me their names and let me know; I'll add ←
16:06:09 <Karen> Tzviya: I don't know all the names
Tzviya Siegman: I don't know all the names ←
16:06:14 <Karen> Ivan: There were a bunch of persons coming
Ivan Herman: There were a bunch of persons coming ←
16:06:29 <Karen> Tzviya: So if others [who attended] can add names that would be helpful
Tzviya Siegman: So if others [who attended] can add names that would be helpful ←
16:06:35 <Karen> …how does that leave the minutes?
…how does that leave the minutes? ←
16:06:40 <Karen> Ivan: We can accept the minutes
Ivan Herman: We can accept the minutes ←
16:06:44 <Karen> …more to be nice with the names
…more to be nice with the names ←
16:06:55 <Karen> Tzviya: We can approve the minutes
Tzviya Siegman: We can approve the minutes ←
16:07:04 <Karen> …next item is to go through a summary from each of the task force leads
…next item is to go through a summary from each of the task force leads ←
16:07:21 <Karen> …to talk about what happened; the current goals; calls for volunteers
…to talk about what happened; the current goals; calls for volunteers ←
16:07:30 <Karen> …and see if everyone is all set, or if they need any additional support
…and see if everyone is all set, or if they need any additional support ←
16:07:41 <Karen> …Let's do order we did in Santa Clara
…Let's do order we did in Santa Clara ←
16:07:50 <Karen> …Fragmentation and Layout…
…Fragmentation and Layout… ←
16:08:03 <Karen> Dave: We said I will add spreads and bleeds info on LatinReq
Dave Cramer: We said I will add spreads and bleeds info on LatinReq ←
16:08:09 <Karen> …and we'll collect business cases
…and we'll collect business cases ←
16:08:16 <Karen> …Brady and Markus will work on a page document
…Brady and Markus will work on a page document ←
16:08:25 <Karen> Tzviya: Did anybody volunteer to join you?
Tzviya Siegman: Did anybody volunteer to join you? ←
16:08:30 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
16:08:35 <Karen> Dave: If they have, they have been very subtle
Dave Cramer: If they have, they have been very subtle ←
16:08:38 <Karen> ack Ivan
ack Ivan ←
16:08:40 <tzviya> ack ivan
Tzviya Siegman: ack ivan ←
16:08:46 <Karen> Ivan: Maybe you have not seen, Dave
Ivan Herman: Maybe you have not seen, Dave ←
16:08:49 <pbelfanti> I love the "fragmentainors" term
Paul Belfanti: I love the "fragmentainors" term ←
16:08:58 <Karen> …We have one new member from Apple who has joined, who has worked in this area
…We have one new member from Apple who has joined, who has worked in this area ←
16:09:05 <Zakim> + +33.6.48.38.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.6.48.38.aabb ←
16:09:12 <Karen> …He works on WebKit and he was a member of the W3C team, Dean Jackson
…He works on WebKit and he was a member of the W3C team, Dean Jackson ←
16:09:15 <Karen> …he has just joined
…he has just joined ←
16:09:20 <Karen> Dave: Cool, I know him
Dave Cramer: Cool, I know him ←
16:09:37 <Karen> Ivan: So reaching out to him personlly would be good
Ivan Herman: So reaching out to him personlly would be good ←
16:09:41 <ivan> zakim, aabb is Luc
Ivan Herman: zakim, aabb is Luc ←
16:09:41 <Zakim> +Luc; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Luc; got it ←
16:09:52 <Karen> Tzviya: Actually Dean reached out to Dave and me
Tzviya Siegman: Actually Dean reached out to Dave and me ←
16:10:00 <Karen> …and we have several new members who have joined recently
…and we have several new members who have joined recently ←
16:10:03 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here? ←
16:10:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see duga, Tzviya, Ivan, Deborah, Liza, azaroth, bjdmeest (muted), pkra, laura_fowler, Karen_Myers, astearns, dauwhe, ??P18, madi, murakami, Julie, david_stroup,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see duga, Tzviya, Ivan, Deborah, Liza, azaroth, bjdmeest (muted), pkra, laura_fowler, Karen_Myers, astearns, dauwhe, ??P18, madi, murakami, Julie, david_stroup, ←
16:10:06 <Karen> …Are any new members on the call today?
…Are any new members on the call today? ←
16:10:07 <Zakim> ... pbelfanti, Luc
Zakim IRC Bot: ... pbelfanti, Luc ←
16:10:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see david_stroup, liam, pbelfanti, Julie, madi, murakami, patpagano, dauwhe, bjdmeest, pkra, liza, brady_duga, dkaplan3, tzviya, Zakim, RRSAgent, azaroth, ivan, Karen,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see david_stroup, liam, pbelfanti, Julie, madi, murakami, patpagano, dauwhe, bjdmeest, pkra, liza, brady_duga, dkaplan3, tzviya, Zakim, RRSAgent, azaroth, ivan, Karen, ←
16:10:07 <Zakim> ... mihnea_____, rego, iank_, astearns, plinss, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... mihnea_____, rego, iank_, astearns, plinss, trackbot ←
16:10:09 <Karen> …Maybe next week
…Maybe next week ←
16:10:46 <Karen> Guest: Patrick Pagano, Nook/Barnes & Noble
16:10:57 <Karen> Tzviya: Structural Semantics and Protocols and Formats met
Tzviya Siegman: Structural Semantics and Protocols and Formats met ←
16:11:00 <Karen> …adding a module to ARIA
…adding a module to ARIA ←
16:11:12 <Karen> …outlook is to take a hard look at existing EPUB vocab
…outlook is to take a hard look at existing EPUB vocab ←
16:11:19 <Karen> …see which are structural and which are content
…see which are structural and which are content ←
16:11:25 <Karen> …And take a look at ARIA as well
…And take a look at ARIA as well ←
16:11:35 <Karen> …and look at terms from XHTML days and look for overlaps
…and look at terms from XHTML days and look for overlaps ←
16:11:45 <Karen> …Markus, I, Deborah and Charles will look at EPUB3 terms
…Markus, I, Deborah and Charles will look at EPUB3 terms ←
16:12:03 <Karen> …and make sure there is nothing in conflict and document that into ARIA as a DigPub vocab for ARIA
…and make sure there is nothing in conflict and document that into ARIA as a DigPub vocab for ARIA ←
16:12:16 <tzviya> q?
Tzviya Siegman: q? ←
16:12:19 <Karen> …Matt Garrish…Markus and I are getting started on that; we met last week at an EDUPUB event
…Matt Garrish…Markus and I are getting started on that; we met last week at an EDUPUB event ←
16:12:23 <Karen> …No questions?
…No questions? ←
16:12:27 <Karen> Ivan: Small comment
Ivan Herman: Small comment ←
16:12:42 <Karen> …I asked if you could update the description of each of the Task Forces on the wiki
…I asked if you could update the description of each of the Task Forces on the wiki ←
16:12:53 <Karen> Tzviya: I did that and saw that some of other groups did as well
Tzviya Siegman: I did that and saw that some of other groups did as well ←
16:12:54 <Karen> +1
+1 ←
16:12:57 <Karen> Dave: I did as well
Dave Cramer: I did as well ←
16:12:57 <Zakim> +Liam
Zakim IRC Bot: +Liam ←
16:13:10 <fjh> zakim, code?
Frederick Hirsch: zakim, code? ←
16:13:10 <Zakim> the conference code is 3782 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), fjh
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3782 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), fjh ←
16:13:15 <Karen> Tzviya: Next group was STEM, Peter?
Tzviya Siegman: Next group was STEM, Peter? ←
16:13:22 <Karen> Peter: We are currently in stage
Scribe problem: the name 'Peter' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Peter Krautzberger Peter Linss . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Unknown Peter: We are currently in stage ←
16:13:31 <Karen> …of doing interviews to generate data
…of doing interviews to generate data ←
16:13:36 <Karen> …that will lead to a wider survey
…that will lead to a wider survey ←
16:13:46 <Karen> …Interviews are done and we are now working on a survey
…Interviews are done and we are now working on a survey ←
16:13:49 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
16:13:52 <Karen> …Sent out a quick and dirty Google doc
…Sent out a quick and dirty Google doc ←
16:13:55 <fjh> zakim, IPCaller is me
Frederick Hirsch: zakim, IPCaller is me ←
16:13:55 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +fjh; got it ←
16:14:12 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
16:14:16 <tzviya> ack ivan
Tzviya Siegman: ack ivan ←
16:14:17 <Karen> …Ideally it will be about what is common; send me emails, but just reference yourself and source, but not emails to be public
…Ideally it will be about what is common; send me emails, but just reference yourself and source, but not emails to be public ←
16:14:25 <Karen> …Results of this survey will be summarized in a Note
…Results of this survey will be summarized in a Note ←
16:14:33 <Karen> …and hopefully put more information into the different channels
…and hopefully put more information into the different channels ←
16:14:34 <Karen> ack Ivan
ack Ivan ←
16:14:41 <Karen> Ivan: Peter, we had a short discussion on email
Ivan Herman: Peter, we had a short discussion on email ←
16:14:53 <Karen> …Do you know what tools you want to us? W3C survey or something else?
…Do you know what tools you want to us? W3C survey or something else? ←
16:15:02 <Karen> Peter: I have not decided yet; I would like to compare a few tools
Scribe problem: the name 'Peter' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Peter Krautzberger Peter Linss . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Unknown Peter: I have not decided yet; I would like to compare a few tools ←
16:15:09 <Karen> …Google, another tool called Typeform
…Google, another tool called Typeform ←
16:15:26 <tzviya> ack liam
Tzviya Siegman: ack liam ←
16:15:26 <Zakim> liam, you wanted to favour w3c one for engagement
Zakim IRC Bot: liam, you wanted to favour w3c one for engagement ←
16:15:46 <Karen> Liam: Even if minor technical reasons, I would encourage using W3C survey to get more W3C engagement
Liam Quin: Even if minor technical reasons, I would encourage using W3C survey to get more W3C engagement ←
16:15:52 <ivan> +1 to Liam
Ivan Herman: +1 to Liam ←
16:15:59 <Karen> Tzviya: You have tools/people you need?
Tzviya Siegman: You have tools/people you need? ←
16:16:04 <Karen> Peter: Not tools, people
Scribe problem: the name 'Peter' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Peter Krautzberger Peter Linss . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Unknown Peter: Not tools, people ←
16:16:11 <Karen> Tzviya: right, volunteers you need
Tzviya Siegman: right, volunteers you need ←
16:16:23 <Karen> …and we talked about bringing in someone from a more traditional publishing background besides me?
…and we talked about bringing in someone from a more traditional publishing background besides me? ←
16:16:35 <Karen> Peter: I thought that came up in context of ebook survey or interview
Scribe problem: the name 'Peter' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Peter Krautzberger Peter Linss . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Unknown Peter: I thought that came up in context of ebook survey or interview ←
16:16:45 <Karen> …Yes, it would be good if someone has a strong interest
…Yes, it would be good if someone has a strong interest ←
16:16:59 <Karen> Tzviya: I meant in the chairs meeting
Tzviya Siegman: I meant in the chairs meeting ←
16:17:07 <Karen> …Is there such a creature?
…Is there such a creature? ←
16:17:27 <Karen> …Is there anyone from a more traditional publishing background who could talk about how publishing deals with STEM content?
…Is there anyone from a more traditional publishing background who could talk about how publishing deals with STEM content? ←
16:17:35 <Karen> …I have a meeting later this week to talk with some of my colleagues
…I have a meeting later this week to talk with some of my colleagues ←
16:17:41 <david_stroup> willing to help
David Stroup: willing to help ←
16:17:42 <Karen> Peter: Please send me an email if interested
Scribe problem: the name 'Peter' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Peter Krautzberger Peter Linss . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Unknown Peter: Please send me an email if interested ←
16:17:49 <Karen> +1 David Stroup
+1 David Stroup ←
16:17:50 <tzviya> q?
Tzviya Siegman: q? ←
16:18:18 <Karen> Tzviya: Bill and Madi led the Metadata meeting
Tzviya Siegman: Bill and Madi led the Metadata meeting ←
16:18:23 <Karen> Madi: I participated by phone
Madi Solomon: I participated by phone ←
16:18:30 <Karen> …We were left with three action items
…We were left with three action items ←
16:18:44 <Karen> …But before that, we had a lot of discussions about what this TF could do in one year
…But before that, we had a lot of discussions about what this TF could do in one year ←
16:18:48 <Karen> …what we would not do
…what we would not do ←
16:18:54 <Karen> …is to go forward with rights/metadata
…is to go forward with rights/metadata ←
16:19:03 <Zakim> +TimCole
Zakim IRC Bot: +TimCole ←
16:19:08 <Karen> …we decided it is crucial for digpub but we agreed we could not achieve this in one year
…we decided it is crucial for digpub but we agreed we could not achieve this in one year ←
16:19:31 <Karen> …So our three action are to lead activity for best practices for metadata; serve as a portal/ warehouse and provide a reference
…So our three action are to lead activity for best practices for metadata; serve as a portal/ warehouse and provide a reference ←
16:19:41 <Karen> …Next is to develop a comprehensive list of identifiers
…Next is to develop a comprehensive list of identifiers ←
16:19:53 <Karen> …whether we choose all or some of ONIX, BIC, providing RDF URIs
…whether we choose all or some of ONIX, BIC, providing RDF URIs ←
16:20:00 <Karen> …instead of going to RDF and Schema.org
…instead of going to RDF and Schema.org ←
16:20:09 <Karen> …and to finish the Metadata Notes as part of this document
…and to finish the Metadata Notes as part of this document ←
16:20:22 <Karen> …The identifiers and collating existing resources is no small feat
…The identifiers and collating existing resources is no small feat ←
16:20:30 <Karen> …I have an email out to Bill about our plan for next steps
…I have an email out to Bill about our plan for next steps ←
16:20:30 <tzviya> q?
Tzviya Siegman: q? ←
16:20:35 <Karen> …Ivan, do you want to add anything?
…Ivan, do you want to add anything? ←
16:20:41 <Karen> Ivan: That's good; one tiny thing
Ivan Herman: That's good; one tiny thing ←
16:20:55 <Karen> …on the Rights Metadata, we suggested that a Community Group might be created on the subject
…on the Rights Metadata, we suggested that a Community Group might be created on the subject ←
16:20:56 <Karen> q+
q+ ←
16:21:02 <Karen> …and to have a more easy-going discussion
…and to have a more easy-going discussion ←
16:21:13 <tzviya> ack karen
Tzviya Siegman: ack karen ←
16:21:44 <Karen> Karen: And I think we encouraged Bill Kasdorf to speak with Heather Reid from Copyright Clearance Center (CCC)
Karen Myers: And I think we encouraged Bill Kasdorf to speak with Heather Reid from Copyright Clearance Center (CCC) ←
16:21:52 <Karen> Tzviya: Do you feel you have the help you need?
Tzviya Siegman: Do you feel you have the help you need? ←
16:22:05 <Karen> Madi: Give me another week to talk with Bill to try to pool resources
Madi Solomon: Give me another week to talk with Bill to try to pool resources ←
16:22:23 <Karen> Tzviya: I have action in front of me and date to finish the list of identifiers is 20th of December
Tzviya Siegman: I have action in front of me and date to finish the list of identifiers is 20th of December ←
16:22:27 <Karen> …Seems far off, but not really
…Seems far off, but not really ←
16:22:31 <Julie> q+
Julie Morris: q+ ←
16:22:32 <Karen> Madi: no, it's not
Madi Solomon: no, it's not ←
16:22:50 <Karen> …and leaving activity for collating best practices for RDFa is also for mid=December
…and leaving activity for collating best practices for RDFa is also for mid=December ←
16:22:57 <Karen> ….two activities that are action-heavy
….two activities that are action-heavy ←
16:23:07 <Karen> …Let's check back next week to make sure these are getting started
…Let's check back next week to make sure these are getting started ←
16:23:10 <Karen> …and getting down on paper
…and getting down on paper ←
16:23:22 <Karen> Madi: Bill and I will ping you this week
Madi Solomon: Bill and I will ping you this week ←
16:23:36 <tzviya> q?
Tzviya Siegman: q? ←
16:23:40 <tzviya> ack Julie
Tzviya Siegman: ack Julie ←
16:23:44 <Karen> Julie: I wanted to mention a couple of things
Julie Morris: I wanted to mention a couple of things ←
16:24:02 <Karen> …Madi, as I think you know, BISG has a rights committee that has been dormant about a year
…Madi, as I think you know, BISG has a rights committee that has been dormant about a year ←
16:24:12 <Karen> …In June we held a workshop and now there is a white paper
…In June we held a workshop and now there is a white paper ←
16:24:15 <Karen> …with outcome of that
…with outcome of that ←
16:24:23 <Karen> …I would be happy to share with the IG or with you, Madi
…I would be happy to share with the IG or with you, Madi ←
16:24:28 <Karen> …Pearson likely has a copy
…Pearson likely has a copy ←
16:24:35 <Karen> …We are taking that work up again this Fall
…We are taking that work up again this Fall ←
16:24:41 <Karen> …I'll keep an eye on that; but to make you aware
…I'll keep an eye on that; but to make you aware ←
16:24:55 <tzviya> q?
Tzviya Siegman: q? ←
16:24:56 <Karen> …you may be on the Rights committee, so should not be too difficult to cooridinate
…you may be on the Rights committee, so should not be too difficult to cooridinate ←
16:25:05 <Karen> …Also, we have a guide to identifiers that was updated in the spring
…Also, we have a guide to identifiers that was updated in the spring ←
16:25:15 <Karen> …May not have all of them, but may be a good way to cross-check
…May not have all of them, but may be a good way to cross-check ←
16:25:27 <Karen> …not just identifiers for published book content, but also that apply to the publishing industry
…not just identifiers for published book content, but also that apply to the publishing industry ←
16:25:33 <Karen> …Like Int'l standard music identifiers
…Like Int'l standard music identifiers ←
16:25:38 <Karen> …that is on the BISG web site
…that is on the BISG web site ←
16:25:44 <Karen> …I can send a link as well
…I can send a link as well ←
16:25:48 <Karen> Madi: That's great
Madi Solomon: That's great ←
16:25:59 <Karen> Tzviya: And the HTML identifiers from BISG is good as well
Tzviya Siegman: And the HTML identifiers from BISG is good as well ←
16:26:12 <Karen> …And Peter, you may have missed that Dave volunteered to help out
…And Peter, you may have missed that Dave volunteered to help out ←
16:26:18 <Karen> …I think we can move onto the next session
…I think we can move onto the next session ←
16:26:24 <Karen> …We had a meeting with the ATAG
…We had a meeting with the ATAG ←
16:26:39 <Karen> …Accessible Authoring Tools Working Group
…Accessible Authoring Tools Working Group ←
16:26:52 <Julie> BISG Guide to Identifiers is here: https://www.bisg.org/guide-identifiers-0
Julie Morris: BISG Guide to Identifiers is here: https://www.bisg.org/guide-identifiers-0 ←
16:27:00 <Karen> …Deborah, are you here?
…Deborah, are you here? ←
16:27:28 <Karen> Tzviya: This is a group that has documentation about creating accessible authoring tools
Tzviya Siegman: This is a group that has documentation about creating accessible authoring tools ←
16:27:35 <pkra> david_stroup send me a quick email?
Peter Krautzberger: david_stroup send me a quick email? ←
16:27:38 <Karen> …Goal is to create tools that are accessible and to create accessible content
…Goal is to create tools that are accessible and to create accessible content ←
16:27:44 <Karen> …In traditional publishing world, this is new to me
…In traditional publishing world, this is new to me ←
16:27:55 <Karen> …and I was shocked because no one ever mentioned these tools
…and I was shocked because no one ever mentioned these tools ←
16:27:59 <Karen> …there are hints to use this
…there are hints to use this ←
16:28:11 <Karen> …I thought it would be really great if the publishing world became aware of this
…I thought it would be really great if the publishing world became aware of this ←
16:28:20 <Karen> …and if we could incorporate this into our workflows
…and if we could incorporate this into our workflows ←
16:28:32 <Karen> …For example, you get a red squiggle if you mis-spell a word
…For example, you get a red squiggle if you mis-spell a word ←
16:28:41 <Karen> …and for images you will be cautioned that there is no description
…and for images you will be cautioned that there is no description ←
16:28:43 <ivan> Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines (ATAG): http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/atag.php
Ivan Herman: Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines (ATAG): http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/atag.php ←
16:28:47 <Karen> …and you can choose what to do with that
…and you can choose what to do with that ←
16:28:58 <Karen> …We decided to take a look at these guidelines: Deborah is going to lead this
…We decided to take a look at these guidelines: Deborah is going to lead this ←
16:29:05 <Karen> …and assess if there is anything missing
…and assess if there is anything missing ←
16:29:20 <Karen> …Take a look to see if there is anything digpub specific to incorporate
…Take a look to see if there is anything digpub specific to incorporate ←
16:29:21 <ivan> -> http://www.w3.org/WAI/guid-tech.html Various WAI Guidelines
Ivan Herman: -> http://www.w3.org/WAI/guid-tech.html Various WAI Guidelines ←
16:29:27 <Karen> …and we can share this with our colleagues
…and we can share this with our colleagues ←
16:29:32 <Karen> …make sure there is bookish content
…make sure there is bookish content ←
16:29:45 <tzviya> q?
Tzviya Siegman: q? ←
16:29:46 <Karen> …Deborah and Charles are doing it, but would be great to find others who could help out with this task
…Deborah and Charles are doing it, but would be great to find others who could help out with this task ←
16:29:51 <Karen> Ivan: That's a good summary
Ivan Herman: That's a good summary ←
16:30:08 <Karen> Tzviya: We had another meeting with Internationalization
Tzviya Siegman: We had another meeting with Internationalization ←
16:30:12 <Karen> …Ivan, will you summarize?
…Ivan, will you summarize? ←
16:30:20 <Karen> Ivan: Yes, Richard Ishida is the activity lead
Ivan Herman: Yes, Richard Ishida is the activity lead ←
16:30:27 <Karen> …he gave an overview of Internationalization
…he gave an overview of Internationalization ←
16:30:32 <Karen> …it was more of an information
…it was more of an information ←
16:30:47 <Karen> …but what turned out is that they have already looked at varous types of int'l issues regarding publishing
…but what turned out is that they have already looked at varous types of int'l issues regarding publishing ←
16:30:59 <Karen> …so there is a danger of duplicating work and not enough collaboration
…so there is a danger of duplicating work and not enough collaboration ←
16:31:09 <Karen> …Richard and his colleagues set up a wiki page
…Richard and his colleagues set up a wiki page ←
16:31:24 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Improving_typography_on_the_Web_and_in_eBooks
Tzviya Siegman: https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Improving_typography_on_the_Web_and_in_eBooks ←
16:31:37 <Karen> …He put together a long list of references and information on EPUB and International issues and information
…He put together a long list of references and information on EPUB and International issues and information ←
16:31:50 <Karen> …It would be really good for us to review that and give feedback for what is missing and lacking
…It would be really good for us to review that and give feedback for what is missing and lacking ←
16:31:58 <Karen> …There is a lot interesting work going on there
…There is a lot interesting work going on there ←
16:32:08 <Karen> …but first step is on us to review that wiki page with all the references
…but first step is on us to review that wiki page with all the references ←
16:32:22 <Karen> …In general, we will need to be more attentive to what is happening there and to synchronize more
…In general, we will need to be more attentive to what is happening there and to synchronize more ←
16:32:25 <Karen> …This has been a bit missing
…This has been a bit missing ←
16:32:37 <Karen> …so we need to work together more moving forward
…so we need to work together more moving forward ←
16:32:43 <liza> I'm happy to review that list
Liza Daly: I'm happy to review that list ←
16:32:44 <Karen> …We are looking for volunteers here, too
…We are looking for volunteers here, too ←
16:32:58 <Karen> …When I look at Richard's documents, I am always amazed
…When I look at Richard's documents, I am always amazed ←
16:33:03 <Karen> …when you look at various scripts and cultures
…when you look at various scripts and cultures ←
16:33:04 <tzviya> q?
Tzviya Siegman: q? ←
16:33:16 <Karen> Tzviya: That covers it, I think
Tzviya Siegman: That covers it, I think ←
16:33:37 <Karen> …Some of us speak other languages, or are familiar with books in other languages, but how do we do this in a organized way?
…Some of us speak other languages, or are familiar with books in other languages, but how do we do this in a organized way? ←
16:33:48 <Karen> …i take left to right; Brady takes Cyrillic, etc.
…i take left to right; Brady takes Cyrillic, etc. ←
16:33:53 <Karen> …not sure how we do this
…not sure how we do this ←
16:34:12 <Karen> Ivan: I think the above will take more attention
Ivan Herman: I think the above will take more attention ←
16:34:18 <Karen> …see if the kind of information is the right info
…see if the kind of information is the right info ←
16:34:30 <Karen> …if publishers need different types of info that is not there, regardless of the specific language
…if publishers need different types of info that is not there, regardless of the specific language ←
16:34:48 <Karen> …I know that Richard has worked to create a huge amount of creating tutorials and courses on how to handle Internationalization
…I know that Richard has worked to create a huge amount of creating tutorials and courses on how to handle Internationalization ←
16:34:51 <brady_duga> q+
Brady Duga: q+ ←
16:34:57 <Karen> …I have no idea how this information is channeled to the publishing industry
…I have no idea how this information is channeled to the publishing industry ←
16:35:04 <Karen> …and how they know about it
…and how they know about it ←
16:35:07 <Karen> …I have no idea
…I have no idea ←
16:35:22 <Karen> …in a way, we may need an Internationalization Czar who has this particular interest
…in a way, we may need an Internationalization Czar who has this particular interest ←
16:35:29 <Karen> Tzviya: We had talked about possibility
Tzviya Siegman: We had talked about possibility ←
16:35:36 <Karen> …of having someone who straddles both groups
…of having someone who straddles both groups ←
16:35:41 <Karen> …The only person I think is Cindy
…The only person I think is Cindy ←
16:35:46 <Karen> …from W3C China Host
…from W3C China Host ←
16:35:53 <Karen> …If she could help us with both, that would be excellent
…If she could help us with both, that would be excellent ←
16:35:56 <Karen> Ivan: We can ask her
Ivan Herman: We can ask her ←
16:36:03 <Karen> …difficulty with her is that she is in Beijing
…difficulty with her is that she is in Beijing ←
16:36:03 <dauwhe> q+
Dave Cramer: q+ ←
16:36:11 <Karen> …So having her on the calls is difficult
…So having her on the calls is difficult ←
16:36:21 <tzviya> ack brady
Tzviya Siegman: ack brady ←
16:36:24 <Karen> …she has other responsibilities, so I don't know how much time she has, but that would be good
…she has other responsibilities, so I don't know how much time she has, but that would be good ←
16:36:38 <Karen> Brady: I would caution against finding native speakers of the language to work on typographic issues
Brady Duga: I would caution against finding native speakers of the language to work on typographic issues ←
16:36:50 <Karen> …My experience is that native speakers don't know about the typography of their language
…My experience is that native speakers don't know about the typography of their language ←
16:37:00 <Karen> …as they don't know what the rules actually are in their native language
…as they don't know what the rules actually are in their native language ←
16:37:07 <Karen> …they know intuitively how they work
…they know intuitively how they work ←
16:37:12 <Karen> LOL
LOL ←
16:37:15 <tzviya> ack dauwhe
Tzviya Siegman: ack dauwhe ←
16:37:16 <Karen> Tzviya: Excellent point
Tzviya Siegman: Excellent point ←
16:37:17 <ivan> -> Internationalization article list http://www.w3.org/International/articlelist
Ivan Herman: -> Internationalization article list http://www.w3.org/International/articlelist ←
16:37:39 <liam> +1 to typographic people
Liam Quin: +1 to typographic people ←
16:37:42 <Karen> Dave: I am rather interested in this Internationalization stuff; I'll talk to Richard and my colleagues to see if I can be a small bridge
Dave Cramer: I am rather interested in this Internationalization stuff; I'll talk to Richard and my colleagues to see if I can be a small bridge ←
16:37:58 <Karen> Ivan: I had good contacts with Richard, so I am happy to do that with you
Ivan Herman: I had good contacts with Richard, so I am happy to do that with you ←
16:38:05 <Karen> …I don't want to put myself forward as the lead
…I don't want to put myself forward as the lead ←
16:38:13 <Karen> …I don't know what kind of info the publishing people need
…I don't know what kind of info the publishing people need ←
16:38:18 <Karen> …But I can be a bridge as well
…But I can be a bridge as well ←
16:38:25 <Karen> Dave: I did talk to Richard quite a bit at TPAC
Dave Cramer: I did talk to Richard quite a bit at TPAC ←
16:38:26 <Karen> Ivan: Great
Ivan Herman: Great ←
16:38:39 <Karen> …I put a list of various articles that over the years this group, mostly Richard, has produced
…I put a list of various articles that over the years this group, mostly Richard, has produced ←
16:38:44 <Karen> …Some are really interesting
…Some are really interesting ←
16:38:50 <Karen> …every time I read them, they are humbling
…every time I read them, they are humbling ←
16:38:52 <Karen> Dave: yes
Dave Cramer: yes ←
16:39:00 <Karen> Tzviya: I find most of the work I do in English
Tzviya Siegman: I find most of the work I do in English ←
16:39:15 <Karen> …sometimes the distinctions between American and British English, which comes up most often in Math
…sometimes the distinctions between American and British English, which comes up most often in Math ←
16:39:20 <liza> "Maths"
16:39:20 <Karen> …Peter, this may also be of interest to you
…Peter, this may also be of interest to you ←
16:39:25 <Karen> …Like annotating math in Arabic
…Like annotating math in Arabic ←
16:39:34 <pkra> q+
Peter Krautzberger: q+ ←
16:39:39 <Karen> …or how you do right to left languages in math
…or how you do right to left languages in math ←
16:39:43 <Karen> …just becomes very confusing
…just becomes very confusing ←
16:39:53 <tzviya> ack ivan
Tzviya Siegman: ack ivan ←
16:39:57 <tzviya> ack pkra
Tzviya Siegman: ack pkra ←
16:40:08 <Karen> …I have worked with nieces and nephews; thinking in two directions is challenging, and then the typography
…I have worked with nieces and nephews; thinking in two directions is challenging, and then the typography ←
16:40:17 <Karen> Peter: there is a notation on Arabic and right to left systems
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Unknown Peter: there is a notation on Arabic and right to left systems ←
16:40:29 <Karen> …for example, MATHML, elementary math elements dealing with long division,
…for example, MATHML, elementary math elements dealing with long division, ←
16:40:33 <Karen> …has many options
…has many options ←
16:40:42 <Karen> …because of the different styles
…because of the different styles ←
16:40:43 <ivan> -> Arabic mathematical notation: http://www.w3.org/TR/arabic-math/
Ivan Herman: -> Arabic mathematical notation: http://www.w3.org/TR/arabic-math/ ←
16:40:56 <pkra> http://www.w3.org/TR/arabic-math/
Peter Krautzberger: http://www.w3.org/TR/arabic-math/ ←
16:40:58 <pkra> right.
Peter Krautzberger: right. ←
16:41:00 <pkra> :-)
Peter Krautzberger: :-) ←
16:41:02 <Karen> Tzviya: So our decision is that for now Dave and Ivan will act as the bridges between us and Internationalization at W3C
Tzviya Siegman: So our decision is that for now Dave and Ivan will act as the bridges between us and Internationalization at W3C ←
16:41:14 <Karen> …it's an area that affects all of us, so we should all keep an eye on it. I certainly will.
…it's an area that affects all of us, so we should all keep an eye on it. I certainly will. ←
16:41:19 <Karen> …and we can use more volunteers
…and we can use more volunteers ←
16:41:21 <pkra> http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML3/chapter3.html#presm.elemmath.examples
Peter Krautzberger: http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML3/chapter3.html#presm.elemmath.examples ←
16:41:35 <Karen> Ivan: And from metadata side, there is a document on how personal names are treated around the world
Ivan Herman: And from metadata side, there is a document on how personal names are treated around the world ←
16:41:41 <Karen> …how you refer to a person is important there
…how you refer to a person is important there ←
16:41:48 <Karen> …this one is really humbling; read that document
…this one is really humbling; read that document ←
16:42:04 <Karen> Tzviya; The common example is how to spell Dostoeyfsky
Tzviya; The common example is how to spell Dostoeyfsky ←
16:42:20 <Karen> …and Spanish examples
…and Spanish examples ←
16:42:29 <Karen> …I believe these are the main topics
…I believe these are the main topics ←
16:42:48 <Karen> …and then Ivan and Markus gave an overview about what they presented at the Books in Browsers conference
…and then Ivan and Markus gave an overview about what they presented at the Books in Browsers conference ←
16:42:53 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
16:42:53 <Karen> …We will talk more about that at another time
…We will talk more about that at another time ←
16:43:07 <Karen> …I sent a Doodle poll out about when we should schedule the next f2f meeting
…I sent a Doodle poll out about when we should schedule the next f2f meeting ←
16:43:09 <tzviya> http://doodle.com/dtpefuzpy44i4v3b
Tzviya Siegman: http://doodle.com/dtpefuzpy44i4v3b ←
16:43:18 <Karen> …We are trying to schedule to combine with other events to limit travel
…We are trying to schedule to combine with other events to limit travel ←
16:43:23 <Karen> …Some dates may not work for everyone
…Some dates may not work for everyone ←
16:43:29 <Karen> …We may have to limit to some of dates
…We may have to limit to some of dates ←
16:43:39 <tzviya> ack ivan
Tzviya Siegman: ack ivan ←
16:43:40 <Karen> …please do fill out the survey
…please do fill out the survey ←
16:43:48 <Karen> …And thank you to those who offered to host
…And thank you to those who offered to host ←
16:43:56 <Karen> Ivan: We forgot about the Annotations TF
Ivan Herman: We forgot about the Annotations TF ←
16:44:01 <Karen> Tzviya: yes, thank you
Tzviya Siegman: yes, thank you ←
16:44:03 <azaroth> http://w3c.github.io/dpub-annotation/
Robert Sanderson: http://w3c.github.io/dpub-annotation/ ←
16:44:08 <Karen> …Annotations now have their own Working Group
…Annotations now have their own Working Group ←
16:44:11 <Karen> …Rob are you here?
…Rob are you here? ←
16:44:18 <Karen> Frederick: I'm here
Frederick Hirsch: I'm here ←
16:44:20 <Karen> Rob: I'm here
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Unknown Rob: I'm here ←
16:44:39 <Karen> Tzviya: Give us an update
Tzviya Siegman: Give us an update ←
16:44:50 <Karen> @: First public working draft of data model
Frederick Hirsch: working to publish FPWD of data model this year, making progress ←
16:44:56 <Karen> …and got feedback on how to do robust anchoring
…and got feedback on how to do robust anchoring ←
16:45:00 <Karen> …main things right now
…main things right now ←
16:45:03 <Karen> …a bunch of other issues
…received feedback and raised issues during TPAC, so working on those issues ←
16:45:11 <tzviya> s/@/fjh
16:45:16 <Karen> …We expect to have F2F in April in conjunciton with iAnnotate conference
…We expect to have F2F in April in conjunciton with iAnnotate conference, assuming this works for WG ←
16:45:22 <Karen> Rob: I updated the use cases
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Unknown Rob: I updated the use cases ←
16:45:25 <Karen> …and closed my action
…and closed my action ←
16:45:30 <tzviya> q?
Tzviya Siegman: q? ←
16:45:34 <Karen> …and put my link into the chat channel
…and put my link into the chat channel ←
16:45:40 <Karen> Tzviya: Those are ready to publish, correct?
Tzviya Siegman: Those are ready to publish, correct? ←
16:45:49 <Karen> Rob: Just await any further feedback, then, yes
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16:46:01 <Karen> Tzviya: Rob, Frederick and Ivan I will ask you to do the publishing details
Tzviya Siegman: Rob, Frederick and Ivan I will ask you to do the publishing details ←
16:46:07 <fjh> s/First public working draft of data model/working to publish FPWD of data model this year, making progress/
16:46:21 <Karen> Ivan: If you could contact Thierry Michel [W3C] because I travel to Australia this week
Ivan Herman: If you could contact Thierry Michel [W3C] because I travel to Australia this week ←
16:46:36 <Karen> Tzviya: Congratulations, great you will be publishing
Tzviya Siegman: Congratulations, great you will be publishing ←
16:46:37 <fjh> s/a bunch of other issues/received feedback and raised issues during TPAC, so working on those issues/
16:46:49 <Karen> …Someone suggested Digital Book World in January, but may be too soon
…Someone suggested Digital Book World in January, but may be too soon ←
16:46:52 <Karen> …likely spring
…likely spring ←
16:46:53 <dkaplan3> q+
Deborah Kaplan: q+ ←
16:47:00 <tzviya> ack dkaplan
Tzviya Siegman: ack dkaplan ←
16:47:04 <fjh> s/iAnnotate conference/iAnnotate conference, assuming this works for WG/
16:47:06 <Karen> …So please get back to us by completing the Doodle poll
…So please get back to us by completing the Doodle poll ←
16:47:18 <Karen> Deborah: One thing I would like to cover
Deborah Kaplan: One thing I would like to cover ←
16:47:26 <Karen> …We do have volunteers with the accessibility work
…We do have volunteers with the accessibility work ←
16:47:34 <Karen> …but more voluteers needed
…but more voluteers needed ←
16:47:37 <Karen> …to do the work
…to do the work ←
16:47:53 <Karen> …if anyone would be able to give us one hour a week, please let me or Charles know
…if anyone would be able to give us one hour a week, please let me or Charles know ←
16:47:58 <Karen> …and we will add you to our list
…and we will add you to our list ←
16:48:04 <Karen> Tzviya: We have 13 minutes
Tzviya Siegman: We have 13 minutes ←
16:48:10 <Karen> …Dave and I have more free time now
…Dave and I have more free time now ←
16:48:24 <Karen> …Frederick and Rob, do you have a question?
…Frederick and Rob, do you have a question? ←
16:48:30 <Karen> Tzviya: I will email you
Tzviya Siegman: I will email you ←
16:48:34 <Karen> …We have some free time
…We have some free time ←
16:48:52 <tzviya> thank you!
Tzviya Siegman: thank you! ←
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16:49:02 <Zakim> -astearns
Zakim IRC Bot: -astearns ←
16:49:03 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
16:49:03 <Zakim> -fjh
Zakim IRC Bot: -fjh ←
16:49:03 <Zakim> -Karen_Myers
Zakim IRC Bot: -Karen_Myers ←
16:49:08 <azaroth> Present+ Rob_Sanderson
Robert Sanderson: Present+ Rob_Sanderson ←
16:49:10 <Zakim> -Liam
Zakim IRC Bot: -Liam ←
16:49:12 <Zakim> -murakami
Zakim IRC Bot: -murakami ←
16:49:12 <Zakim> DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM has ended ←
16:49:12 <Zakim> Attendees were duga, Tzviya, Ivan, Deborah, Liza, azaroth, bjdmeest, pkra, laura_fowler, Karen_Myers, +1.206.675.aaaa, astearns, dauwhe, madi, Julie, murakami, david_stroup,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were duga, Tzviya, Ivan, Deborah, Liza, azaroth, bjdmeest, pkra, laura_fowler, Karen_Myers, +1.206.675.aaaa, astearns, dauwhe, madi, Julie, murakami, david_stroup, ←
16:49:12 <Zakim> ... pbelfanti, +33.6.48.38.aabb, Luc, Liam, fjh, TimCole
Zakim IRC Bot: ... pbelfanti, +33.6.48.38.aabb, Luc, Liam, fjh, TimCole ←
16:49:36 <azaroth> fjh: Should I make the ED into FPWD ?
Frederick Hirsch: Should I make the ED into FPWD ? [ Scribe Assist by Robert Sanderson ] ←
16:49:38 <azaroth> http://w3c.github.io/web-annotation/model_fpwd/static.html
Robert Sanderson: http://w3c.github.io/web-annotation/model_fpwd/static.html ←
16:49:52 <azaroth> is the static version from respec
Robert Sanderson: is the static version from respec ←
16:50:01 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
Ivan Herman: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
16:50:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/10-dpub-minutes.html ivan
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/10-dpub-minutes.html ivan ←
16:50:12 <ivan> trackbot, end telcon
Ivan Herman: trackbot, end telcon ←
16:50:12 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees ←
16:50:12 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is ←
16:50:20 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
16:50:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/10-dpub-minutes.html trackbot
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/10-dpub-minutes.html trackbot ←
16:50:21 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye ←
16:50:21 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items ←
16:50:22 <azaroth> (or ivan)
Robert Sanderson: (or ivan) ←
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