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15:04:00 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
15:04:00 <trackbot> Date: 10 November 2014
15:05:11 <ivan> Chair: Tzviya
15:05:51 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/C274A5503C851E43A8ED400AC86E0285046B089F98@SOM-MB.wiley.com
15:27:41 <ivan> Regrets: Vlad, Michael_Miller, Thierry_Michel
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15:58:27 <Zakim> +Tzviya
15:58:55 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
15:58:55 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
15:58:57 <Zakim> +Ivan
15:59:19 <Zakim> +[Safari]
15:59:33 <Zakim> +[Safari.a]
15:59:36 <ivan> zakim, Safari is Deborah
15:59:37 <Zakim> +Deborah; got it
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15:59:48 <ivan> zakim, Safari.a is Liza
15:59:50 <Zakim> +Liza; got it
15:59:56 <Zakim> +azaroth
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16:00:58 <bjdmeest> zakim, Ugent is me
16:00:58 <Zakim> +bjdmeest; got it
16:01:04 <bjdmeest> zakim, mute me
16:01:04 <Zakim> bjdmeest should now be muted
16:01:16 <Zakim> +pkra
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16:01:45 <astearns> zakim, aaaa is me
16:01:45 <Zakim> +astearns; got it
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16:02:18 <Zakim> +dauwhe
16:02:23 <Zakim> +??P18
16:02:30 <Zakim> +madi
16:02:53 <tzviya> regrets clapierre, markus, thierry, michael_miller
16:03:05 <Zakim> +??P20
16:03:14 <Zakim> +Julie
16:03:16 <murakami> zakim, ??P20 is me
16:03:16 <Zakim> +murakami; got it
16:03:45 <Zakim> +david_stroup
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16:04:07 <Karen> Chair: Tzviya
16:04:10 <Karen> Scribe: Karen
16:04:26 <Karen> Tzviya: We learned in Santa Clara there are some quiet people who are good scribes!
16:04:28 <ivan> scribenick: Karen
16:04:34 <Zakim> +pbelfanti
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16:05:00 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dpub-minutes.html
16:05:01 <Karen> Tzviya: First, let's first approve the minutes from the F2F
16:05:04 <Karen> …first day here
16:05:11 <Karen> …thank you for those who attended
16:05:12 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2014/10/31-dpub-minutes.html
16:05:16 <liam> liam has joined #dpub
16:05:17 <Karen> …and the second day here
16:05:25 <Karen> …Comments or feedback?
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16:05:29 <Karen> Ivan: My only comment
16:05:40 <Karen> …not against acceptance, but I need to bring these together
16:05:48 <Karen> …I tried to include names of the various observers
16:06:01 <Karen> …I'm sure I forgot some, so please send me their names and let me know; I'll add
16:06:09 <Karen> Tzviya: I don't know all the names
16:06:14 <Karen> Ivan: There were a bunch of persons coming
16:06:29 <Karen> Tzviya: So if others [who attended] can add names that would be helpful
16:06:35 <Karen> …how does that leave the minutes?
16:06:40 <Karen> Ivan: We can accept the minutes
16:06:44 <Karen> …more to be nice with the names
16:06:55 <Karen> Tzviya: We can approve the minutes
16:07:04 <Karen> …next item is to go through a summary from each of the task force leads
16:07:21 <Karen> …to talk about what happened; the current goals; calls for volunteers
16:07:30 <Karen> …and see if everyone is all set, or if they need any additional support
16:07:41 <Karen> …Let's do order we did in Santa Clara
16:07:50 <Karen> …Fragmentation and Layout…
16:08:03 <Karen> Dave: We said I will add spreads and bleeds info on LatinReq
16:08:09 <Karen> …and we'll collect business cases
16:08:16 <Karen> …Brady and Markus will work on a page document
16:08:25 <Karen> Tzviya: Did anybody volunteer to join you?
16:08:30 <ivan> q+
16:08:35 <Karen> Dave: If they have, they have been very subtle
16:08:38 <Karen> ack Ivan
16:08:40 <tzviya> ack ivan
16:08:46 <Karen> Ivan: Maybe you have not seen, Dave
16:08:49 <pbelfanti> I love the "fragmentainors" term
16:08:58 <Karen> …We have one new member from Apple who has joined, who has worked in this area
16:09:05 <Zakim> + +33.6.48.38.aabb
16:09:12 <Karen> …He works on WebKit and he was a member of the W3C team, Dean Jackson
16:09:15 <Karen> …he has just joined
16:09:20 <Karen> Dave: Cool, I know him
16:09:37 <Karen> Ivan: So reaching out to him personlly would be good
16:09:41 <ivan> zakim, aabb is Luc
16:09:41 <Zakim> +Luc; got it
16:09:52 <Karen> Tzviya: Actually Dean reached out to Dave and me
16:10:00 <Karen> …and we have several new members who have joined recently
16:10:03 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
16:10:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see duga, Tzviya, Ivan, Deborah, Liza, azaroth, bjdmeest (muted), pkra, laura_fowler, Karen_Myers, astearns, dauwhe, ??P18, madi, murakami, Julie, david_stroup,
16:10:06 <Karen> …Are any new members on the call today?
16:10:07 <Zakim> ... pbelfanti, Luc
16:10:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see david_stroup, liam, pbelfanti, Julie, madi, murakami, patpagano, dauwhe, bjdmeest, pkra, liza, brady_duga, dkaplan3, tzviya, Zakim, RRSAgent, azaroth, ivan, Karen,
16:10:07 <Zakim> ... mihnea_____, rego, iank_, astearns, plinss, trackbot
16:10:09 <Karen> …Maybe next week
16:10:46 <Karen> Guest: Patrick Pagano, Nook/Barnes & Noble
16:10:57 <Karen> Tzviya: Structural Semantics and Protocols and Formats met
16:11:00 <Karen> …adding a module to ARIA
16:11:12 <Karen> …outlook is to take a hard look at existing EPUB vocab
16:11:19 <Karen> …see which are structural and which are content
16:11:25 <Karen> …And take a look at ARIA as well
16:11:35 <Karen> …and look at terms from XHTML days and look for overlaps
16:11:45 <Karen> …Markus, I, Deborah and Charles will look at EPUB3 terms
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16:12:03 <Karen> …and make sure there is nothing in conflict and document that into ARIA as a DigPub vocab for ARIA
16:12:16 <tzviya> q?
16:12:19 <Karen> …Matt Garrish…Markus and I are getting started on that; we met last week at an EDUPUB event
16:12:23 <Karen> …No questions?
16:12:27 <Karen> Ivan: Small comment
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16:12:42 <Karen> …I asked if you could update the description of each of the Task Forces on the wiki
16:12:53 <Karen> Tzviya: I did that and saw that some of other groups did as well
16:12:54 <Karen> +1
16:12:57 <Karen> Dave: I did as well
16:12:57 <Zakim> +Liam
16:13:10 <fjh> zakim, code?
16:13:10 <Zakim> the conference code is 3782 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), fjh
16:13:15 <Karen> Tzviya: Next group was STEM, Peter?
16:13:22 <Karen> Peter: We are currently in stage
16:13:31 <Karen> …of doing interviews to generate data
16:13:36 <Karen> …that will lead to a wider survey
16:13:46 <Karen> …Interviews are done and we are now working on a survey
16:13:49 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:13:52 <Karen> …Sent out a quick and dirty Google doc
16:13:55 <fjh> zakim, IPCaller is me
16:13:55 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
16:14:12 <ivan> q+
16:14:16 <tzviya> ack ivan
16:14:17 <Karen> …Ideally it will be about what is common; send me emails, but just reference yourself and source, but not emails to be public
16:14:25 <Karen> …Results of this survey will be summarized in a Note
16:14:33 <Karen> …and hopefully put more information into the different channels
16:14:34 <Karen> ack Ivan
16:14:41 <Karen> Ivan: Peter, we had a short discussion on email
16:14:53 <Karen> …Do you know what tools you want to us? W3C survey or something else?
16:15:02 <Karen> Peter: I have not decided yet; I would like to compare a few tools
16:15:09 <Karen> …Google, another tool called Typeform
16:15:26 <tzviya> ack liam
16:15:26 <Zakim> liam, you wanted to favour w3c one for engagement
16:15:46 <Karen> Liam: Even if minor technical reasons, I would encourage using W3C survey to get more W3C engagement
16:15:52 <ivan> +1 to Liam
16:15:59 <Karen> Tzviya: You have tools/people you need?
16:16:04 <Karen> Peter: Not tools, people
16:16:11 <Karen> Tzviya: right, volunteers you need
16:16:23 <Karen> …and we talked about bringing in someone from a more traditional publishing background besides me?
16:16:35 <Karen> Peter: I thought that came up in context of ebook survey or interview
16:16:45 <Karen> …Yes, it would be good if someone has a strong interest
16:16:59 <Karen> Tzviya: I meant in the chairs meeting
16:17:07 <Karen> …Is there such a creature?
16:17:27 <Karen> …Is there anyone from a more traditional publishing background who could talk about how publishing deals with STEM content?
16:17:35 <Karen> …I have a meeting later this week to talk with some of my colleagues
16:17:41 <david_stroup> willing to  help
16:17:42 <Karen> Peter: Please send me an email if interested
16:17:49 <Karen> +1 David Stroup
16:17:50 <tzviya> q?
16:18:18 <Karen> Tzviya: Bill and Madi led the Metadata meeting
16:18:23 <Karen> Madi: I participated by phone
16:18:30 <Karen> …We were left with three action items
16:18:44 <Karen> …But before that, we had a lot of discussions about what this TF could do in one year
16:18:48 <Karen> …what we would not do
16:18:54 <Karen> …is to go forward with rights/metadata
16:19:03 <Zakim> +TimCole
16:19:08 <Karen> …we decided it is crucial for digpub but we agreed we could not achieve this in one year
16:19:31 <Karen> …So our three action are to lead activity for best practices for metadata; serve as a portal/ warehouse and provide a reference
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16:19:41 <Karen> …Next is to develop a comprehensive list of identifiers
16:19:53 <Karen> …whether we choose all or some of ONIX, BIC, providing RDF URIs
16:20:00 <Karen> …instead of going to RDF and Schema.org
16:20:09 <Karen> …and to finish the Metadata Notes as part of this document
16:20:22 <Karen> …The identifiers and collating existing resources is no small feat
16:20:30 <Karen> …I have an email out to Bill about our plan for next steps
16:20:30 <tzviya> q?
16:20:35 <Karen> …Ivan, do you want to add anything?
16:20:41 <Karen> Ivan: That's good; one tiny thing
16:20:55 <Karen> …on the Rights Metadata, we suggested that a Community Group might be created on the subject
16:20:56 <Karen> q+
16:21:02 <Karen> …and to have a more easy-going discussion
16:21:13 <tzviya> ack karen
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16:21:44 <Karen> Karen: And I think we encouraged Bill Kasdorf to speak with Heather Reid from Copyright Clearance Center (CCC)
16:21:52 <Karen> Tzviya: Do you feel you have the help you need?
16:22:05 <Karen> Madi: Give me another week to talk with Bill to try to pool resources
16:22:23 <Karen> Tzviya: I have action in front of me and date to finish the list of identifiers is 20th of December
16:22:27 <Karen> …Seems far off, but not really
16:22:31 <Julie> q+
16:22:32 <Karen> Madi: no, it's not
16:22:50 <Karen> …and leaving activity for collating best practices for RDFa is also for mid=December
16:22:57 <Karen> ….two activities that are action-heavy
16:23:07 <Karen> …Let's check back next week to make sure these are getting started
16:23:10 <Karen> …and getting down on paper
16:23:22 <Karen> Madi: Bill and I will ping you this week
16:23:36 <tzviya> q?
16:23:40 <tzviya> ack Julie
16:23:44 <Karen> Julie: I wanted to mention a couple of things
16:24:02 <Karen> …Madi, as I think you know, BISG has a rights committee that has been dormant about a year
16:24:12 <Karen> …In June we held a workshop and now there is a white paper
16:24:15 <Karen> …with outcome of that
16:24:23 <Karen> …I would be happy to share with the IG or with you, Madi
16:24:28 <Karen> …Pearson likely has a copy
16:24:35 <Karen> …We are taking that work up again this Fall
16:24:41 <Karen> …I'll keep an eye on that; but to make you aware
16:24:55 <tzviya> q?
16:24:56 <Karen> …you may be on the Rights committee, so should not be too difficult to cooridinate
16:25:05 <Karen> …Also, we have a guide to identifiers that was updated in the spring
16:25:15 <Karen> …May not have all of them, but may be a good way to cross-check
16:25:27 <Karen> …not just identifiers for published book content, but also that apply to the publishing industry
16:25:33 <Karen> …Like Int'l standard music identifiers
16:25:38 <Karen> …that is on the BISG web site
16:25:44 <Karen> …I can send a link as well
16:25:48 <Karen> Madi: That's great
16:25:59 <Karen> Tzviya: And the HTML identifiers from BISG is good as well
16:26:12 <Karen> …And Peter, you may have missed that Dave volunteered to help out
16:26:18 <Karen> …I think we can move onto the next session
16:26:24 <Karen> …We had a meeting with the ATAG
16:26:39 <Karen> …Accessible Authoring Tools Working Group
16:26:52 <Julie> BISG Guide to Identifiers is here: https://www.bisg.org/guide-identifiers-0
16:27:00 <Karen> …Deborah, are you here?
16:27:28 <Karen> Tzviya: This is a group that has documentation about creating accessible authoring tools
16:27:35 <pkra> david_stroup send me a quick email?
16:27:38 <Karen> …Goal is to create tools that are accessible and to create accessible content
16:27:44 <Karen> …In traditional publishing world, this is new to me
16:27:55 <Karen> …and I was shocked because no one ever mentioned these tools
16:27:59 <Karen> …there are hints to use this
16:28:11 <Karen> …I thought it would be really great if the publishing world became aware of this
16:28:20 <Karen> …and if we could incorporate this into our workflows
16:28:32 <Karen> …For example, you get a red squiggle if you mis-spell a word
16:28:41 <Karen> …and for images you will be cautioned that there is no description
16:28:43 <ivan> Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines (ATAG): http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/atag.php
16:28:47 <Karen> …and you can choose what to do with that
16:28:58 <Karen> …We decided to take a look at these guidelines: Deborah is going to lead this
16:29:05 <Karen> …and assess if there is anything missing
16:29:20 <Karen> …Take a look to see if there is anything digpub specific to incorporate
16:29:21 <ivan> -> http://www.w3.org/WAI/guid-tech.html Various WAI Guidelines
16:29:27 <Karen> …and we can share this with our colleagues
16:29:32 <Karen> …make sure there is bookish content
16:29:45 <tzviya> q?
16:29:46 <Karen> …Deborah and Charles are doing it, but would be great to find others who could help out with this task
16:29:51 <Karen> Ivan: That's a good summary
16:30:08 <Karen> Tzviya: We had another meeting with Internationalization
16:30:12 <Karen> …Ivan, will you summarize?
16:30:20 <Karen> Ivan: Yes, Richard Ishida is the activity lead
16:30:27 <Karen> …he gave an overview of Internationalization
16:30:32 <Karen> …it was more of an information
16:30:47 <Karen> …but what turned out is that they have already looked at varous types of int'l issues regarding publishing
16:30:59 <Karen> …so there is a danger of duplicating work and not enough collaboration
16:31:09 <Karen> …Richard and his colleagues set up a wiki page
16:31:24 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Improving_typography_on_the_Web_and_in_eBooks
16:31:37 <Karen> …He put together a long list of references and information on EPUB and International issues and information
16:31:50 <Karen> …It would be really good for us to review that and give feedback for what is missing and lacking
16:31:58 <Karen> …There is a lot interesting work going on there
16:32:08 <Karen> …but first step is on us to review that wiki page with all the references
16:32:22 <Karen> …In general, we will need to be more attentive to what is happening there and to synchronize more
16:32:25 <Karen> …This has been a bit missing
16:32:37 <Karen> …so we need to work together more moving forward
16:32:43 <liza> I'm happy to review that list
16:32:44 <Karen> …We are looking for volunteers here, too
16:32:58 <Karen> …When I look at Richard's documents, I am always amazed
16:33:03 <Karen> …when you look at various scripts and cultures
16:33:04 <tzviya> q?
16:33:16 <Karen> Tzviya: That covers it, I think
16:33:37 <Karen> …Some of us speak other languages, or are familiar with books in other languages, but how do we do this in a organized way?
16:33:48 <Karen> …i take left to right; Brady takes Cyrillic, etc.
16:33:53 <Karen> …not sure how we do this
16:34:12 <Karen> Ivan: I think the above will take more attention
16:34:18 <Karen> …see if the kind of information is the right info
16:34:30 <Karen> …if publishers need different types of info that is not there, regardless of the specific language
16:34:48 <Karen> …I know that Richard has worked to create a huge amount of creating tutorials and courses on how to handle Internationalization
16:34:51 <brady_duga> q+
16:34:57 <Karen> …I have no idea how this information is channeled to the publishing industry
16:35:04 <Karen> …and how they know about it
16:35:07 <Karen> …I have no idea
16:35:22 <Karen> …in a way, we may need an Internationalization Czar who has this particular interest
16:35:29 <Karen> Tzviya: We had talked about possibility
16:35:36 <Karen> …of having someone who straddles both groups
16:35:41 <Karen> …The only person I think is Cindy
16:35:46 <Karen> …from W3C China Host
16:35:53 <Karen> …If she could help us with both, that would be excellent
16:35:56 <Karen> Ivan: We can ask her
16:36:03 <Karen> …difficulty with her is that she is in Beijing
16:36:03 <dauwhe> q+
16:36:11 <Karen> …So having her on the calls is difficult
16:36:21 <tzviya> ack brady
16:36:24 <Karen> …she has other responsibilities, so I don't know how much time she has, but that would be good
16:36:38 <Karen> Brady: I would caution against finding native speakers of the language to work on typographic issues
16:36:50 <Karen> …My experience is that native speakers don't know about the typography of their language
16:37:00 <Karen> …as they don't know what the rules actually are in their native language
16:37:07 <Karen> …they know intuitively how they work
16:37:12 <Karen> LOL
16:37:15 <tzviya> ack dauwhe
16:37:16 <Karen> Tzviya: Excellent point
16:37:17 <ivan> -> Internationalization article list http://www.w3.org/International/articlelist
16:37:39 <liam> +1 to typographic people
16:37:42 <Karen> Dave: I am rather interested in this Internationalization stuff; I'll talk to Richard and my colleagues to see if I can be  a small bridge
16:37:58 <Karen> Ivan: I had good contacts with Richard, so I am happy to do that with you
16:38:05 <Karen> …I don't want to put myself forward as the lead
16:38:13 <Karen> …I don't know what kind of info the publishing people need
16:38:18 <Karen> …But I can be a bridge as well
16:38:25 <Karen> Dave: I did talk to Richard quite a bit at TPAC
16:38:26 <Karen> Ivan: Great
16:38:39 <Karen> …I put a list of various articles that over the years this group, mostly Richard, has produced
16:38:44 <Karen> …Some are really interesting
16:38:50 <Karen> …every time I read them, they are humbling
16:38:52 <Karen> Dave: yes
16:39:00 <Karen> Tzviya: I find most of the work I do in English
16:39:15 <Karen> …sometimes the distinctions between American and British English, which comes up most often in Math
16:39:20 <liza> "Maths"
16:39:20 <Karen> …Peter, this may also be of interest to you
16:39:25 <Karen> …Like annotating math in Arabic
16:39:34 <pkra> q+
16:39:39 <Karen> …or how you do right to left languages in math
16:39:43 <Karen> …just becomes very confusing
16:39:53 <tzviya> ack ivan
16:39:57 <tzviya> ack pkra
16:40:08 <Karen> …I have worked with nieces and nephews; thinking in two directions is challenging, and then the typography
16:40:17 <Karen> Peter: there is a notation on Arabic and right to left systems
16:40:29 <Karen> …for example, MATHML, elementary math elements dealing with long division,
16:40:33 <Karen> …has many options
16:40:42 <Karen> …because of the different styles
16:40:43 <ivan> -> Arabic mathematical notation: http://www.w3.org/TR/arabic-math/
16:40:56 <pkra> http://www.w3.org/TR/arabic-math/
16:40:58 <pkra> right.
16:41:00 <pkra> :-)
16:41:02 <Karen> Tzviya: So our decision is that for now Dave and Ivan will act as the bridges between us and Internationalization at W3C
16:41:14 <Karen> …it's an area that affects all of us, so we should all keep an eye on it. I certainly will.
16:41:19 <Karen> …and we can use more volunteers
16:41:21 <pkra> http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML3/chapter3.html#presm.elemmath.examples
16:41:35 <Karen> Ivan: And from metadata side, there is a document on how personal names are treated around the world
16:41:41 <Karen> …how you refer to a person is important there
16:41:48 <Karen> …this one is really humbling; read that document
16:42:04 <Karen> Tzviya; The common example is how to spell Dostoeyfsky
16:42:20 <Karen> …and Spanish examples
16:42:29 <Karen> …I believe these are the main topics
16:42:48 <Karen> …and then Ivan and Markus gave an overview about what they presented at the Books in Browsers conference
16:42:53 <ivan> q+
16:42:53 <Karen> …We will talk more about that at another time
16:43:07 <Karen> …I sent a Doodle poll out about when we should schedule the next f2f meeting
16:43:09 <tzviya> http://doodle.com/dtpefuzpy44i4v3b
16:43:18 <Karen> …We are trying to schedule to combine with other events to limit travel
16:43:23 <Karen> …Some dates may not work for everyone
16:43:29 <Karen> …We may have to limit to some of dates
16:43:39 <tzviya> ack ivan
16:43:40 <Karen> …please do fill out the survey
16:43:48 <Karen> …And thank you to those who offered to host
16:43:56 <Karen> Ivan: We forgot about the Annotations TF
16:44:01 <Karen> Tzviya: yes, thank you
16:44:03 <azaroth> http://w3c.github.io/dpub-annotation/
16:44:08 <Karen> …Annotations now have their own Working Group
16:44:11 <Karen> …Rob are you here?
16:44:18 <Karen> Frederick: I'm here
16:44:20 <Karen> Rob: I'm here
16:44:39 <Karen> Tzviya: Give us an update
16:44:50 <Karen> @: First public working draft of data model
16:44:56 <Karen> …and got feedback on how to do robust anchoring
16:45:00 <Karen> …main things right now
16:45:03 <Karen> …a bunch of other issues
16:45:11 <tzviya> s/@/fjh
16:45:16 <Karen> …We expect to have F2F in April in conjunciton with iAnnotate conference
16:45:22 <Karen> Rob: I updated the use cases
16:45:25 <Karen> …and closed my action
16:45:30 <tzviya> q?
16:45:34 <Karen> …and put my link into the chat channel
16:45:40 <Karen> Tzviya: Those are ready to publish, correct?
16:45:49 <Karen> Rob: Just await any further feedback, then, yes
16:46:01 <Karen> Tzviya: Rob, Frederick and Ivan I will ask you to do the publishing details
16:46:07 <fjh> s/First public working draft of data model/working to publish FPWD of data model this year, making progress/
16:46:21 <Karen> Ivan: If you could contact Thierry Michel [W3C] because I travel to Australia this week
16:46:36 <Karen> Tzviya: Congratulations, great you will be publishing
16:46:37 <fjh> s/a bunch of other issues/received feedback and raised issues during TPAC, so working on those issues/
16:46:49 <Karen> …Someone suggested Digital Book World in January, but may be too soon
16:46:52 <Karen> …likely spring
16:46:53 <dkaplan3> q+
16:47:00 <tzviya> ack dkaplan
16:47:04 <fjh> s/iAnnotate conference/iAnnotate conference, assuming this works for WG/
16:47:06 <Karen> …So please get back to us by completing the Doodle poll
16:47:18 <Karen> Deborah: One thing I would like to cover
16:47:26 <Karen> …We do have volunteers with the accessibility work
16:47:34 <Karen> …but more voluteers needed
16:47:37 <Karen> …to do the work
16:47:53 <Karen> …if anyone would be able to give us one hour a week, please let me or Charles know
16:47:58 <Karen> …and we will add you to our list
16:48:04 <Karen> Tzviya: We have 13 minutes
16:48:10 <Karen> …Dave and I have more free time now
16:48:24 <Karen> …Frederick and Rob, do you have a question?
16:48:30 <Karen> Tzviya: I will email you
16:48:34 <Karen> …We have some free time
16:48:52 <tzviya> thank you!
16:48:53 <Zakim> -Liza
16:48:54 <Zakim> -Deborah
16:48:56 <Zakim> -Julie
16:48:56 <Zakim> -??P18
16:48:57 <Zakim> -madi
16:48:57 <Karen> rrsagent, make  minutes
16:48:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/10-dpub-minutes.html Karen
16:48:58 <Zakim> -TimCole
16:48:58 <Zakim> -pkra
16:48:58 <Zakim> -azaroth
16:48:59 <fjh> Present+ Frederick_Hirsch
16:48:59 <Zakim> -dauwhe
16:48:59 <Zakim> -laura_fowler
16:49:00 <Zakim> -Luc
16:49:00 <Zakim> -pbelfanti
16:49:01 <Zakim> -bjdmeest
16:49:01 <Zakim> -duga
16:49:01 <Zakim> -Tzviya
16:49:02 <Zakim> -david_stroup
16:49:02 <Zakim> -astearns
16:49:03 <TimCole> TimCole has left #dpub
16:49:03 <Zakim> -Ivan
16:49:03 <Zakim> -fjh
16:49:03 <Zakim> -Karen_Myers
16:49:08 <azaroth> Present+ Rob_Sanderson
16:49:10 <Zakim> -Liam
16:49:12 <Zakim> -murakami
16:49:12 <Zakim> DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM has ended
16:49:12 <Zakim> Attendees were duga, Tzviya, Ivan, Deborah, Liza, azaroth, bjdmeest, pkra, laura_fowler, Karen_Myers, +1.206.675.aaaa, astearns, dauwhe, madi, Julie, murakami, david_stroup,
16:49:12 <Zakim> ... pbelfanti, +33.6.48.38.aabb, Luc, Liam, fjh, TimCole
16:49:36 <azaroth> fjh: Should I make the ED into FPWD ?
16:49:38 <azaroth> http://w3c.github.io/web-annotation/model_fpwd/static.html
16:49:52 <azaroth> is the static version from respec
16:50:01 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:50:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/10-dpub-minutes.html ivan
16:50:12 <ivan> trackbot, end telcon
16:50:12 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:50:12 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
16:50:20 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:50:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/10-dpub-minutes.html trackbot
16:50:21 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:50:21 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
16:50:22 <azaroth> (or ivan)