Finally, the group considered the current version of the tutorials. Bim has taken a first pass at the visual design, specifically the navigation. Shawn suggested that we find a volunteer to polish that design and Andrew agreed to make some inquiries among designers he knows. In the meantime, the content of the images tutorial is progressing to the point where we will have a draft ready for thorough review very soon and Shawn asked members to keep it on their radar. Shadi noted the inclusion of a couple of place-holder images that they will be seeking content for and asked members to consider those. The meeting adjourned early and members were asked to use the time to complete current work, both individual actions assigned and actions for all.
Shawn: The good news is that Sharron is now co-chair of EOWG
<Andrew> Hey - excellent :)
<dboudreau> wow! :)
<Suzette2> Congratulations to Sharron
Shawn: we've been talking about it for a while. Got it approved by the W3 management.
... Sharron has been helping with stuff for a while and so it will be good to have someone to help with the planning.
Sharron:Thanks all, I am honored and excited about helping in this way.
<Denis> this is really good news :)
Shawn: A help with big picture planning and all.
... anyone is welcome to help with the big picture thinking and planning you are welcome to join the weekly call or help in any way.
... we want to continue to think about participation. We want to be sure that we have good member and industry participation. Such as companies in which the whole purpose is not as focused on accessiiblity.
... we want to find ways to use WAI-Engage to orient people to the work of EO (if we cn launch some projects that will engage participation, use as a kind of preliminary participation for possible EO membership.
Shawn: Thanks to all who have commented, much apprecitated. Once these comments are done I will take a look at ATAG at a glance and the Overview.
... I will watch the updates to those and make any changes and send it around for all to review.
... ATAG is in Last Call nearly to go to Candidate Recommendation in which people are asked to implement it. Each requirement will have to have at least 2 real world implementations. Authoring tool developers submit a version that includes implementations of the requirements and get to brag about it.
Andrew: During the implementation phase, a tool does not have to meet each and every requirement does it? It can highlight the ones that it does meet
Shawn: Yes, that is right. We will document the requirements that tool makers do say they have implemented.
... so our job will be to promote it, get those implementations documented, and ask those who use authoring tools to contact the distributors of it and encourage implementation.
... any other thoughts?
Andrew: I like the idea of encouraging ATAG references in procurement documents.
<paulschantz> +1 to Andrew's idea. WCAG is now being referenced in many procurement docs in California
Shawn: We have been talking about doing this (and contract language) in WAI-Engage
Sharron: Procurement seems easier to address than contracts.
Andrew: The nature of contracts is awfully situational that may be hard to address with general language.
Shawn: The Techniques and Understanding documents were significantly updated. A part of that was saying that Techniques are NOT required and that other techniques may be used. We updated the FAQs and have a Draft update to the QuickRef.
... the WCAG WG debated one point in particular and left it for more discussion.
... there is a specific question about where the NOte fits. Read through the entire Introduction (beyond what is in our wiki). Think about the pros and cons of where that note would fit and add your comments please.
<Howard> I'll take a look
Denis: I can look at where that note might fit
Shawn: Thank you both, can you add to the wiki and put the date of 8-7
Sylvie: If it is not too long I can look before I go on holiday. This evening I begin holiday, but will try before I leave.
<Paul> Aw, I'll give it a look over
AnnaBelle: I will take a look
Shawn: It is short, may be able to use the time today, we will have a short meeting. Any comments on the rest of the WCAG changes are welcome, too.
Sylvie: When are the comments due?
Shawn: By 15 August
Shawn: Bim did a first pass at the visual design, specifically the navigation. We should take another pass - does anyone know a designer who may take it on as a project? We may even open it up as a project outside the groups.
Shadi: We will have to have a technical review by both the PF and WCAGworking groups
... we need a substantial review process. We hope to close to that stage with the Images soon and so could perhaps put it into the final location for those reviews.
Shawn: Can you list the images that you would like us to develop feedback for?
... this could be another area where we might use these things as a way to get people to participate. It seems like it might be quite effective.
... anything else? If not, I propose we adjourn and give back the time to work on comments and other actions that you may have?