<scribe> scribe: Dave

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attendance at Munich F2F

Jaroslav: yes, I will now be able to come

Fabio: anyone else (other than already on the page)

Review of changes

See Paolo's email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mbui/2013Jun/0021.html

This covers proposed modifications for device, platform and

peripheral.

Paolo: the notion of platform covers quite a wide spectrum.

<UCL> UCL is coming. Sorry for the delay.

Jaroslav: do we agree that a screen is a peripheral rather than a device?

Paolo: yes. A device could be a tablet, where the use thinks he is interacting with a screen, but is really interacting with a computational system.

Jaroslav is concerned with wording about individual units for "device".

Paolo: perhaps functional unit would be clearer.

Jaroslav talks about the relationship between device and system.

Paolo: it is a question of whether to be more or less specific.

Jaroslav: functional unit sounds good.

Paolo asks Fabio what he thinks.

Fabio: do we need the last part of the platform definition?

Perhaps we should add some examples for platform?

Paolo: okay

Fabio: e.g. smart phone, tablet for platform, and iPhone and Samsung Galaxy III for devices.

<UCL> It should be interesting to provide a new column with example instead to be inside de definition?

Paolo: I would suggest removing elementary platform etc.

<UCL> Yes, the contrast is very difficult to read, :-)

We update the glossary entries live ...

Fabio: should we now remove the old definition? (for platform)

Paolo: yes, I would remove it

Jaroslav: my suggestion would be to put the new definition into a new row.

Fabio: this would make the document hard to manage

Jean: you can have different kinds of platforms, e.g. software platforms or hardware platform

Jaroslav: a smart phone is combination of both

<UCL> platform = shortcut for computing platform?

<UCL> ok with def

Jaroslav: it is quite common to talk about platform independence in terms of interaction modes, which is related to the type of peripheral, which seems to be missing here.

Jean asks whether we should adopt the terminology from OMG?

Fabio: we just had a small earthquake! We left the building, but have just returned.

Paolo: I've changed interaction modality, and we could relate this to interaction modality.

Jaroslav: I will think on this and provide a proposal for next week

A small remark should we explain the term "effector" here.

Effector is less commonly used than actuator.

Fabio: vibrating the phone is an example of an embedded effector

Paolo: effectors are part of the interaction process.
... I would prefer to use "effector" to "actuator" to avoid the robotics domain

However wikipedia notes that the two terms have essentially the same meaning.

Jaroslav: I agree with that.

Fabio: we should try to remove entries that we no longer feel are significant

Paolo: we need to aim for consistency across entries.

Jaroslav: should the glossary be ready for final review at the Munich F2F?

Fabio: yes and we plan to publish it very soon after that meeting.

For the next call, we need to check for consistency and for which entries we could remove

Jaroslav: please don't drop entries immediately, rather mark them as obsolete.

Abstract UI

Fabio: do we have time to discuss this now?

Paolo: we could perhaps review the email thread on the AUI

Fabio: let's cover that next week

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