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HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

16 May 2013

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Attendees

Present
MarkS, janina, [IPcaller], paulc, John_Foliot, +1.619.846.aaaa, +7.926.113.aabb, chaals, Cynthia_Shelly, David_MacDonald
Regrets
SteveF
Chair
Chaals
Scribe
janina

Contents


<chaals> trackbot, start meeting

<trackbot> Date: 16 May 2013

Identify Scribe

<scribe> scribe: janina

Outstanding text team bugs

text bugs

ms: No Triage call this week

<MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13449

Identify Scribe

Outstanding text team bugs

ms: Closed based on behavior of IE and FF

and expectation that gui browsers would do the right thing anyway

ms: suggests reopen

cn: Are there other opinions?
... To discuss in Triage?

lw: Suggest TF decision

cn: Anyone else for reopening
... Seems not. So we will leave it

<chaals> RESOLUTION: 13449 stays closed in the absence of a champion to re-open.

cn: Anyone noting one that should be closed? Or to discuss one of these?
... Noting crickets. Will continue to ping

Longdesc bugs http://www.w3.org/mid/op.wwtyklsqy3oazb@chaals.local

cn: Reviewing additional remaining bugs
... First relates to adding an attribute to denote presence of a longdesc

<chaals> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21987 -> add attribute

cn: Propose 21987 to be closed

crickets

cn: So is closed
... Next

<chaals> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21894 - define longdesc like cite instead of as a link

cn: Propose to leave as is
... Will close this

<chaals> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21988 - update URL definition to a link that works

cn: An editorial issue propose closing
... Will be closed

pc: Wondering whether the longdesc spec supports the linkage the allows direct filing from the spec

cn: Prefer not to

<chaals> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/default/longdesc1/longdesc.html -> editor's draft

<paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013May/0097.html Media TF request

<paulc> Media TF bug: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22062

pc: MSE about to go LC, and it is believed this assists that process
... No opinion here, simply suggesting the consideration

cn: Don't believe we need it. It's a simple spec. We've cleared many bugs already.
... It raises a risk of expediting bugs that poorly considered
... It's just quite easy to file bugs
... Notes that many reading the html spec seem to click the button to see what happens

pc: My only reason to raise is to get wide review
... Is true that HTML editorial team always triaging these

cn: What do others think?

jf: See no reason for it, especially on this particular attribute. We've researched and defended this so widely and completely

js: Agree to leave as is

cn: We'll leave as is
... Turns out we need to nothing. The base element auto applies by default
... Implementations not necessarily good at this
... Unclear this is realword as it's unclear anyone uses base plus longdesc

Longdesc Public Draft

cn: Proposing to publish as a stabilization draft
... Call for consensus Monday
... Tobe pub'd Tuesday
... Idea is to fix anything remaining before we go LC

pc: Any working draft from the TF needs approval from HTML and PF

<paulc> MSE Pre-LC announcement: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0001.html

pc: For MSE we point people to the editor's draft to avoid the formal Stabilization

[discussion of timeline implications of the formal process]

cn: anticipate finishing in spring
... Ah, it's the Aussie spring!
... Is there objection to a Stabilization Draft publication now?

RESOLUTION: The Task Force approves publication of a Stabilization Draft for the HTML Image Description extension specification

jf: Asking about a HTML spec walk through

cn: We need to raise either here or in Bug Triage

js: Decision here was to walk through in separate telecons to identify

cn: Ah, the chairs aren't in the same place on this, so need to discuss in coordination
... Any further input for the chairs on this topic?

pc: review what docs?

cn: Do essentially what the HTML-WG did with the spec docs

pc: We expect CFCs soon on some of this soon

cn: TF would check that it agrees with WG decisions specifically with "does it produce a11y issues or not"

pc: Suggest determining the order of work and make it visible to the WG

<paulc> Overview of testing in view of CR exit: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tests-cr-exit.html

cn: Suggest TF chairs should figure this out with HTML Chairs

<scribe> ACTION: Charles to set up coordination of spec review for the TF chairs with the HTML WG chairs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-html-a11y-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-181 - Set up coordination of spec review for the TF chairs with the HTML WG chairs [on Charles McCathie Nevile - due 2013-05-23].

<scribe> ACTION: Charles to insure that Leonie is looped into action-181 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-html-a11y-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-182 - Insure that Leonie is looped into action-181 [on Charles McCathie Nevile - due 2013-05-23].

ms: Notes regrets for next Thursday

cn: Anyone else?
... possibly me

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Charles to insure that Leonie is looped into action-181 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-html-a11y-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Charles to set up coordination of spec review for the TF chairs with the HTML WG chairs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-html-a11y-minutes.html#action01]
 
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