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<trackbot> Date: 17 January 2013
<paulc> http://www.w3.org/2013/01/10-html-wg-minutes.html say Rik will scribe.
<scribe> scribenick: cabanier
<Wilto> Well, I tried.
<Wilto> thanks, hober.
<yoav> +yoav
topic ACTION items due by Thursday, January 17
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<paulc> ISSUE-207?
<trackbot> ISSUE-207 -- Adaptive and responsive images -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/207
<laura_> If the responsive images group wants to pursue incorporating the picture element into HTML5.0, they can do so. But I withdraw my tracker request. I wish them the best.
paulc: we have a call for
consensus which is later on the agenda
... … we updated the assumption for all the other tracker
issues
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20082
paulc: should microdata be a rec or a note? this is also later on the agenda
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12725
paulc: this is the same
... the chairs are going the preference poll one at a
time
... have we done those previously?
... we want to make sure that the survey mechanism is working
correctly
... we will do the survey when microdata closes
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12726
paulc: we had a specific request to put this item on hold
<paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0002.html
paulc: Steve Falckner sent the
chairs a note to wait until implementation details
... …as of yet no bugs are filed but we expect that they
will
... … janina is going to work on this
... … the chairs are going to leave this as outstanding
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13409
paulc: we had a proposal:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0021.html
... David Carlisle is going to work with the group on an
extension spec
... what is the status of the spec?
davidc: I'm not sure about the
procedure
... the spec is not on a rec track
paulc: is it xhtml- pubid?
<paulc> See http://www.w3.org/2003/entities/2007doc/xhtmlpubid.html
davidc: yes
paulc: what should happen to the
document?
... you should take the text from your message but send it to
public-html
... and provide your solution
davidc: that sounds good
... it would be good that the implementors are aware of the
issue
... and if people have comments
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15213
paulc: this item was
reopened
... I didn't have time to research it
... I wonder what is going on. Sam, do you know?
rubys: … (?)
paulc: so this was raised by
john?
... is there precedent to move from 5.1 to 5.0
<rubys> s/... (?)/we should process as a 5.1 issue/
paulc: we may move this to 5.1
and Sam is going investigate if this is OK and not setting a
precedent
... if it's a feature request, we can simply put it in 5.1
paulc: none
paulc: that closed last night and
there were no objections
... this CfC has passed
<paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0039.html
paulc: … so we will publish
this
... … Adrian and aaron are the editors and worked with Mike
Smith to get this published
... … I will ask for a transition request
... … probably today or tomorrow
<paulc> ISSUE-207?
<trackbot> ISSUE-207 -- Adaptive and responsive images -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/207
paulc: there is a fair amound of position taking and there is topical discussion going on
hober: laura is withdrawing her tracker request
Wilto: I'm in the responsive images community group
<Wilto> “If the responsive images group wants to pursue incorporating the picture
<Wilto> element into HTML5.0, they can do so. But I withdraw my tracker request. I wish
<Wilto> them the best.”
Wilto: around 9:10, laura_ said that
paulc: she is not a member of the
WG
... we will not withdraw the CFC
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/microdata-status-preference-poll/
paulc: should it be a rec or a
note? we have a poll
... .. the interim result 17 yes and 4 no
<paulc> Interim results: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/microdata-status-preference-poll/results
paulc: it looks like the yes vote is in the lead. This is a simple majority vote
None
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media-fpwd.html
paulc: we have a candidate draft
document.
... the taskforce has 1 more bug that they need to close. This
has delayed the process by a week
... … it will open up next tuesday probable
paulc: i put this on the agenda to figure out the status
hober: there are 4 to 5 src-set
bug and try to work though them
... … I don't think <picture> needs to wait for
src-set.
<Wilto> http://picture.responsiveimages.org/#relationship-to-srcset
Wilto: looking through the
src-set bugs, they are addressed by the picture spec
... … there is overlap
... I'm unsure how to coordinate
paulc: maybe someone can give us the list of bugs on srcset
paulc: I suggest that people
comment on these bugs
... … there was thinking that we should publish the 2 documents
at the same time and that they should point to each other
... … they are 2 proposals for the same use-cases
<Wilto> (Some of the same use-cases.)
paulc: … I wonder if we can wait 2 more weeks until Hober fixes his bugs
Wilto: …(?)
Hober: 2 weeks is fine. I will try to do it faster.
paulc: the chairs are tracking this
<Wilto> “Where some of the outstanding `srcset` bugs are addressed by the `picture` extension specification, we may not be able to close them without knowing more about the status of the `picture` extension spec.”
???: there are duplicate bugs between w3c and whatwg bugs
hober: the bugs are cloned so they are linked together
<Wilto> “If `picture` should pass, it would effectively close some of these bugs. If not, they would need to be addressed in another way before the `srcset` bugs can be closed.”
hober: I'm tracking it in both places
paulc: are all the bugs assigned to you, hober?
hober: yes, they are
paulc: thanks yoav for noticing that
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0014.html
paulc: robin started the message
about how we can reorg the bugs
... … I want to make it to people's attention that we will move
things around
... … most of the bugs are under html5 and many in
html.next
... … does anyone have comments or questions? If so, post them
to the admin list
paulc: this cfc passed some time
ago and is awaiting publication
... is anyone on the call that can update us?
(silence)
paulc: the transition request for
the documents has not been sent to the chairs list yet
... I have 2 pending requests.
... are there any other questions?
paulc: Maciej will most likely
chair
... who wants to scribe
no scribe volunteer
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