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MultilingualWeb-LT Working Group Teleconference

01 Oct 2012

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Ankit, Dave, Arle, Phil, Milan, Pedro, Giuseppe, Shaun, Yves, Jirka, Dom, Leroy, Ankit, Tadej, Jörg, Moritz
Regrets
Olaf-Michael, Felix
Chair
dF
Scribe
daveL

Contents


df: follow up on Prague meeting
... Dom has followed up with reminder to fill in detailed of test suite commitments
... there were presentaton on potnetial new partners with impementation proposals
... proposal from Logrus, ]init[ and Tilde
... other issues - important progress made in tool referencing area
... resolved through introduction of special, non data cateogry mark up

<dF> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/42

df: this solution was a special element that was orthogonal to data categories
... currently only used compulsoraryily by mtconfidence score
... but owner of other data categoires, especially quality related one, should consider making use of this manditory
... this finished brief summary of prague face to face
... now return to open action items

df; shaun has one on revised intro example

df: there are several other actions requiring new input to specification - from Tadej, Pedro and others
... we will return to these also in editing session

shaunm: action 218 on its way, and section 232 in the next few days

pedro: confirms that he is able to addess 224 by tomoorw

tadej; can provide 223 by midday tomorrow

df;action 225 also for tadej

tadej: will forward that tomorrow

arle: also had some edits that need to be incorporated also,

tadej: will liaise Arle on this

<scribe> ACTION: arle to complete action 225 based on input from tadej [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-239 - Complete action 225 based on input from tadej [on Arle Lommel - due 2012-10-08].

df; will skip actions with felix as he can't make call

df; phil to complete 227 on provenace by next week.

df; dom has already circulated reminder for test suite committments

df: notes that we can have independent implementation for W3C conformance even if common libraries such as OKAPI used

leroy: action 231 completed so it can be closed
... git hub is availalbe and mail has been sent

df: will extend action 231 for leroy on tests for param

<Yves_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Oct/0000.html

yves: action is done, but awaiting comments on this post

df: close this action and pass actions to other data category holders

<scribe> ACTION: phil to apply its tool to proveance agents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-240 - Apply its tool to proveance agents [on Phil Ritchie - due 2012-10-08].

<scribe> ACTION: declan to apply its tool to mt confidence [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-241 - Apply its tool to mt confidence [on Declan Groves - due 2012-10-08].

<scribe> ACTION: phil to apply its tool to quality data catefories [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-242 - Apply its tool to quality data catefories [on Phil Ritchie - due 2012-10-08].

<scribe> ACTION: tadej to apply its tool to disambiguation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-243 - Apply its tool to disambiguation [on Tadej Štajner - due 2012-10-08].

daveL: so each of the above should provide an additonal example showing use of its tools

df: except for mtconfidence score where it is matatory and should therefore replace the exisitng action
... tadej action is already covered by 236
... have now covered all actions not covered by issues, now to cover issues
... issue 42 cvored already

<Arle> I'm having audio problems with the call. If I don't answer, that may be why. It's coming and going for me.

df: issue 48 in counting linebreak

yves: have provided solutions though have not had much feedback
... consider it resolved

<dF> EBCEDIC

df: unless there are objections to using the EBCEDIC value then close the issue 48
... issue 51 on too many global rules

<dF> Dave: Shaun's action on canonical names.. Thi should be probably extended as an annex

<dF> .. we should have a table to start managing this.

<dF> .. we do not have a canonical way how to couple HTML and XML attributes

<dF> .. it is obvious now, but there is actually no formal way to connect them

<dF> Shaun: in the spec?

<dF> Dave: it can be a normative annex

<dF> .. we do not say which HTML attribute corresponds to what XML attribute.

<scribe> ACTION: shaunm to extend his action for canonical data category list with canonical list of data attributes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find shaunm. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/users>.

yves: this topic has somewhat overridden the more general problem of having too many global rules with bad practice of selectors in global rules that break if the document is changes
... will provide an example of this problems

df: should these be two separate issues

yves: yes, it should be a separate issue, I had pointed this out in response to provenance proposals

df: we need felix to split the issue

<scribe> ACTION: felix to split the issue of pointers from the issue of too many poor global rules as suggested by Yves [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-244 - Split the issue of pointers from the issue of too many poor global rules as suggested by Yves [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-10-08].

df: there is an issue with use of keyword for domain info compared to dc.subject

yves: points out that keyword is a list of items rather than just one, so this doesn't work with out domain mapping issue

df: this needs a solution, but non offered on call

<Jirka> http://www.tortoisecvs.org/

<Arle> ACTION: Arle to circulate editorial sequence for sections in editors' meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action08]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-245 - Circulate editorial sequence for sections in editors' meeting [on Arle Lommel - due 2012-10-08].

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Arle to circulate editorial sequence for sections in editors' meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: arle to complete action 225 based on input from tadej [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: declan to apply its tool to mt confidence [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to split the issue of pointers from the issue of too many poor global rules as suggested by Yves [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: phil to apply its tool to proveance agents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: phil to apply its tool to quality data catefories [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: shaunm to extend his action for canonical data category list with canonical list of data attributes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: tadej to apply its tool to disambiguation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]
 
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