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<rubys> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 23 August 2012
<scribe> ScribeNick: hober
ACTION-220?
<trackbot> ACTION-220 -- Adrian Bateman to work with Matthew to get an editor's draft submitted to the WG for proposed adaptive image element -- due 2012-08-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/220
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JulSep/0022.html
rubys: update from adrian; his new target is tomorrow
rubys: there are none
ISSUE-30?
<trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
rubys: call for updated Change
Proposals target was Aug 17
... we've moved that to the 30th
rubys: there are none
ISSUE-131?
<trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
rubys: CfC closes August 30
ISSUE-201?
<trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
rubys: CfC closes August 30
... we have a request for extension
... Issue31cMetaGeneratorUpdated CfC closes August 30
... a request from ted to interpret that narrowly; i agree
ISSUE-131?
<trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
rubys: CfC mentioned above
ISSUE-201?
<trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
scribe: Issue31cMetaGeneratorUpdated CfC
rubys: new calls all closing august 30th
rubys: none
rubys: none
krisk: updated the wiki with a list of approved tests in the suite
<krisk> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing
krisk: we now have 3744 approved
tests
... we met as planned last week
<krisk> Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Aug/0010.html
krisk: we agreed bug 18505 &
18522 are indeed test bugs and will be fixed
... had a long git & hg conversation
<krisk> sure..
<krisk> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18505
<krisk> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18522
krisk: our git mirror is read-only; mercurial is read-write
<krisk> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17891
krisk: some progress on bug
17891
... looks like ff may revert their decision
... which means we may revert to our previous behavior for
compat
... we meet again next week
MikeSmith: we had some discussion
about ISSUE-204, so did PF
... PFWG will be communicating back to the HTML WG chairs about
the 204 decision
... the TF wasn't involved in that
... also discussed ISSUE-30
... made a bit of progress on ISSUE-131 and ISSUE-201
ISSUE-201?
<trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
ISSUE-131?
<trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
MikeSmith: rich has been driving
these issues from the TF side
... rich has no problem with deferring ISSUE-131 to
HTML.next
... hopefully we can get consensus in the WG on that so we can
move on
... rich thinks it's important to get ISSUE-201 implemented and
shipped in browsers in the html5 timeframe
... rich is confident that implementors will make it
happen
... I'm skeptical
<rubys> we have a call for consensus http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Aug/0381.html
rubys: on ISSUE-201, we have a
CfC on a CP authored by Ted
... likely consensus, though we have one request for
extension
MikeSmith: discussed this on the
TF call, see the minutes
... others have spent a lot of time reaching consensus on
this
... it would be disappointing to see the momentum slow
down
... we have pretty good agreement among implementors
... the likelihood of a new proposal getting such consensus is
low
... rich has spent time working with charles on this, and took
an action item to talk to charles about this
... should have an update by next week's call
ISSUE-30?
<trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
rubys: there's been talk with plh, judy, and others
<scribe> ... new target is august 30th for updates
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: survey will start on 31 august
rubys: this is a third option
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Aug/0294.html
rubys: discussion seems to be slowing down; will likely CfC once it winds down
<rubys> decisions applied to date: ISSUE-170 ISSUE-187 ISSUE-189 ISSUE-199 ISSUE-204; possibly also ISSUE-150?
rubys: new drafts are up; they have fixes for a number of decisions
<rubys> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/
<rubys> http://dev.w3.org/html5/2dcontext/
rubys: hopefully we'll be able to do another heartbeat publication in early september
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Aug/0314.html
rubys: post from one of the
canvas editors about making some idl changes
... will presume people are ok with it if no comments are
received
rubys: no volunteers
rubys: we are adjourned
RRSAgent: generate minutes
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