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<trackbot> Date: 09 August 2012
<scribe> scribe: rubys
paulc: none
... I have an action item due next week on the responsive
images
paulc: we have none (one tracker request still hasn't been dealt with)
issue-204?
<trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
paulc: survey closed aug 3rd;
because this issue is on the critical path, the chairs have
been prioritizing this item
... nothing to report as of yet
issue-131?
<trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
paulc: extension closed aug 3rd
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Aug/0074.html
paulc: rich is travelling this
week and next
... this issue is not on the critical path, so we will monitor
the progress
issue-206?
<trackbot> ISSUE-206 -- Should HTML5 have a meta generator exception to the alt requirement? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/206
paulc: the call for consensus passed, but there has been considerable discussion and new proposals.
mike: I think we have complete
agreement to drop the meta generator exception, what we don't
have agreement on is whether we need to replace that with some
other mechanism
... we have some momentum to adding a new attribute; the points
of contention are the attribute name and what the validation
should be
... the fundamental disagreement is over what the default
should be on whether errors should be reported if this
attribute is present
... key people are laura/janina and henri; I've tried to make
suggestions to see if we can find middle ground
... I've got a few messages out, waiting for feedback from
Henri
... I want to put together another proposal which synthesizes
the discussion; plan to get to this by next week
paulc: is there a believe that a replacement is needed in HTML5, or can it be delayed to HTML.next
mike: that has not been discussed, but I believe that there is some desire to have it sooner
paulc: it might be possible to split this into two parts.. and would like to understand the timetime that such would create
mike: this is not a problem that requires a long lead for implementation time, what we need is time to get to consensus
paulc: the chairs perceive this discussion as positive
mike: agreed
issue-30?
<trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
paulc: the chairs requested that all updates be done by Aug 17; Judy has requested 3 weeks.
<paulc> Request: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Aug/0142.html
paulc: the chairs are likely to respond to that request either late this week or early next week
paulc: none
paulc: none
issue-189?
<trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- closed
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Aug/0115.html
paulc: there was a question on
this decision from Julian, and Maciej responded
... we will monitor that thread
Testing Task Force:
krisk: we met on 7/31
<krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Aug/0001.html
<krisk> http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/approved/canvas/2d.text.draw.space.collapse.nonspace.html
krisk: Zhang (from Intel) fixed a bug... much appreciated
<krisk> lots of discussion if VT (vertical tab) should be a space char
<krisk> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/common-microsyntaxes.html#space-character
krisk: either the test will change to match the spec, or we will request that the spec change
paulc: when will a bug be filled?
krisk: I will file a bug
<krisk> I'll open one
krisk: we will meet again next tuesday
paulc: do you have a page with the number of submitted and approved tests?
krisk: not yet, but I can create one
janina: it is August and lots of people are on vacation
issue-201?
<trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
janina: steve was not clear if ted's response included the list of elements?
<paulc> Question from Steve is in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Aug/0062.html
ted: I have been looking at it,
and have been trying to come up with a list of
restrictions
... the restriction in the proposal is more than what we want,
and I hope to have a response before end of day tomorrow
janina: I will convey to others
that you are working on this
... lot of discussion regarding 206, which seems to be settling
down
paulc: anything else?
paulc: I chair these meetings,
and they occur on tuesday. We canceled last week due to
vacations.
... the editors are busy applying changes; there will be a
meeting next week. Vacation continues to pose a problem.
... we are probably a month to two months away from having
something to bring back to the working group
paulc: Editorial team for Canvas 2D Context
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Aug/0060.html
paulc: we announce the HTML5
editors about a week ago; we announced four Canvas 2D Context
editors.
... the editors had a meeting on Tuesday this week (with two of
the co-chairs), focusing on applying decisions and on post-LC2
bugs
... the chairs are pleased with the progress
issue-131?
<trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
<paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Aug/0076.html
paulc: this is the one where Rich asked for more time; the chairs are monitoring the situation
issue-201?
<trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
<paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Aug/0062.html
paulc: we talked about this one;
ted need to respond to message 62.
... any other business?
... (again noted the dependency between 204 and 30)
paulc: I'm traveling next week;
Maciej will chair
... any volunteers to scribe?
... no volunteers to subscribe; maciej will need to deal with
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