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MultilingualWeb-LT Working Group Teleconference

31 May 2012

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Attendees

Present
Arle, Dave, Moritz, Pedro, Tadej, Yves, David, Dave, Michael
Regrets
Chair
Arle
Scribe
dF

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 31 May 2012

<Arle> Scribe: dF

Agenda Review

Attnedance: dF, Arle, Milan, Moritz, Michael

<michael> sorry, my microphone is not working...trying to fix it...

+ Yves_

We will review issue and action items

Arle: Issue on archiving ITS mark up

<scribe> ACTION: Moritz to sort out Issue 23 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-97 - Sort out Issue 23 [on Moritz Hellwig - due 2012-06-07].

This one is specifically in CMS, so natural for Cocomore to take care for

Issue 16

<scribe> ACTION: Yves to create proposal for ITS variables, Issue 16 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-98 - Create proposal for ITS variables, Issue 16 [on Yves Savourel - due 2012-06-07].

Yves: e-mail or wiki?

Arle and David: Start on e-mail, later in wiki standard draft

Issue 15 Traget Pointer

Arle: probably hard to address without Pedro

Yves_: No it is for me

Arle: I was mixing it up
... maybe we close this one.. I do not see what the action is

<scribe> ACTION: Yves_ to summarize the Issue 15, target ponter [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Yves_

<scribe> ACTION: Yves_ to summarize the Issue 15 target pointer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Yves_

<scribe> ACTION: Felix to clarify Issue 14 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-99 - Clarify Issue 14 [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-06-07].

<scribe> ACTION: Yves to summarize the Issue 15 target pointer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-100 - Summarize the Issue 15 target pointer [on Yves Savourel - due 2012-06-07].

Dave: explains about Issue 14

Arle: we need to table this one and cache without Pedro

<scribe> ACTION: Dave to update requirements document on cache category [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Dave

<scribe> ACTION: DaveL to update requirements document on cache category [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action08]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-101 - Update requirements document on cache category [on David Lewis - due 2012-06-07].

change cache to localization cache

Issue 20, using ITS globally in HTML 5

Arle: This can probably be closed

<scribe> ACTION: Jirka to summarize Issue 20 for closing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action09]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-102 - Summarize Issue 20 for closing [on Jirka Kosek - due 2012-06-07].

Setting Issue 20 to pending review

Pedro joining

Arle recalls localization cache

Dave: explains that he has taking this

Arle: trying to establish if Issue 14 is connected to actions 80 and 95

95 is to delete categories from action 80, MT disambiguation categories

Issue 14 is related to closed actions 50 and 79 not to 80 and 95

Probably a copy-paste error in creating agenda

Issue 22

Arle, probably cannot move before Dublin

Dave: agree, we should discuss this in Dublin

Isseu 22 is provenance and agents

<scribe> ACTION: DaveL to set the scene for Dublin discussion of Issue 22 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action10]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-103 - Set the scene for Dublin discussion of Issue 22 [on David Lewis - due 2012-06-07].

Issue 9

Dave: There was good discussion
... segment marker is connected to this

Arle: segment marker is temporarily on hold
... There was a similar discussion in XLIFF

Yves: yes, it is similar

Arle: Let us try to coordinate

Dave: we should get a summary of the XLIFF discussion

<scribe> ACTION: Yves to summarize XLIFF discussion on segmentatiion marker [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action11]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-104 - Summarize XLIFF discussion on segmentatiion marker [on Yves Savourel - due 2012-06-07].

dF: There is the fundamental difference. XLIFF controls its own namespace and can introduce elements
... MLW-LT cannot, we must work with attributes only due to HTML impact

Dave: we should look into clear mapping

dF: seprate issue for segmentation?

Arle: I tend to go for a separate issue
... We already have Issue 12 on segmentation
... so we cannot close this one and need to do some more work on it

<scribe> ACTION: Arle to work more on issue 12 and bring it in context with ULI work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action12]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-105 - Work more on issue 12 and bring it in context with ULI work [on Arle Lommel - due 2012-06-07].

Issue 3

Action 80 actually relates to Issue 3, MT disambuguation categories

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 80

Action 95 was to dlete categories form Action 80 because there were no consumers for these categories

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 95

Tadej: There was a discussion between Tadej and Pedro

Tadej says that it would be easy to implement them as described by Pedro

https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/95

dF: Tadej, are you proposing to cancel action 95?

Pedro: there are three tyopes of reference materials: concepts, meanings, terms
... It is true that not many are using this time of information currently, but it should help us in coordination with other wgs working on ontologies

Tadej: the action said delte unless
... in Tadej view good examples were provided, so the action should just be closed

DaveL: discussed this data cetagory at LREC
... LREC people were supportive of standardized ways of referencing

Pedro: restates the concept, meaning, term difference

DaveL: on Dublin, we should assign mediators to working sessions

Arle: agrees

Next Steps

There was a discussion with LT-Web WP owners

Arle: table assigning categories to WPs will be distributed to LT-Web project participants before Dublin

Pedro: Once in a good shape

Moritz: next week holiday in Germany

Pedro: Lot of things to be closed in Dublin

dF: Why not to skip the next meeting?

Arle: yes, let us cancel it, but do follow up on e-mails

Pedro request a meeting on WP4 in Dublin

zakim create minutes

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Arle to work more on issue 12 and bring it in context with ULI work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action12]
[NEW] ACTION: Dave to update requirements document on cache category [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: DaveL to set the scene for Dublin discussion of Issue 22 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: DaveL to update requirements document on cache category [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to clarify Issue 14 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Jirka to summarize Issue 20 for closing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action09]
[NEW] ACTION: Moritz to sort out Issue 23 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to create proposal for ITS variables, Issue 16 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to summarize the Issue 15 target pointer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to summarize XLIFF discussion on segmentatiion marker [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action11]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves_ to summarize the Issue 15 target pointer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves_ to summarize the Issue 15, target ponter [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]
 
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