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<korn> / afternoon. I'll be on in a moment; having some phone difficulties...
<MichaelC> scribeNick: greggvanderheiden
After last info meeting some were there who can't participate and some that missed the meeting
half the group are now signed up -- but signup is still in progress
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<Andi> participant list: http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=55145&public=1
By Thursday should have better list of members
Contact Judy regarding who is signed up and signing up
if you have questions
We will be mailing a link to the minutes to the mail list after each meeting
and each minutes links to the others
<Andi> scribe: Andi
<greggvanderheiden> https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/
GV: basically "Understanding WCAG
Applied to ICT"
... for performance - each SC on a separate page but can also
be collected as a single document
... cross cutting issues - in introduction, more detail after
the sections on each SC
... one suggestion is to focus on Level A/AA first and come
back to Level AAA to meet the needs of regulatory
initiatives
... Definitions from glossary:
https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/home/definitions-from-glossary
... pages not provided for terms that seem to apply to non-web
ICT as is - can be re-opened by request to Andi from any TF
member
GV: looking at a page for a
particular guideline (1.3.1 for example)
... important to include WCAG 2.0 intent verbatim
... nothing goes above the big blue block labeled "</ END OF
TASK FORCE CONSENSUS CONTENT FOR APPLICATION NOTE >." until
TF has reached consensus on it. Only editors edit this
space
... below the big blue block is space for contributions and
discussion
... if somebody makes a comment and you want to edit their
comment, make a copy of it and edit the copy
... never edit the SC text or intent text from WCAG
... we can "suggest" changes to the intent text back to the
WCAG working group if we find that something needs to be
clarified
MP: some of work M376 team has done on definitions might be helpful
GV: proposes putting this information in the cross-cutting section on interpretation of web terms
PK: think this kind of thing belongs in the introduction
GV: cross-cutting issues will get sorted where they need to go including the introduction - think that the cross-cutting section is the best place to collect the contributions, discuss, and reach consensus
PK: need to have these in the back of our minds as we discuss each SC
GV: suggest removing "key terms" section from introduction for now so that all of it is in the cross-cutting section while we are doing our discussion
PK: suggest that we collect what we believe will be the key terms and link to appropriate section in the Cross-cutting issues section
resolution: remove discussion of key terms from introduction, leave only a list of what the key terms are, with links to the cross-cutting issues section for the discussion
PC: with regard to Understanding WCAG 2.0 intent, if we are to make changes, how do we reflect that in the working document?
GV: recommend we put our suggested changes in square brackets. If approved by the WCAG WG, we can update
PK: agree that this is a good
working structure but may not be our final structure
... Oracle comments have been reviewed with industry but should
not be taken as industry position
<korn> q
GV: supposed to have a draft in a
month - need to settle on the structure ASAP
... suggest parallel the Understanding document since this is
another understanding document
<janina> Regrets that I must leave for another call now.
AS: don't think we can resolve today. Let's begin discussing with this structure and try to settle on final structure soon as we work our way through the draft.
<scribe> scribe: greggvanderheiden
DIscussion handled in item above
Peter k: To quickly review and discuss the definitions of key terms first to be familiar with the issues, but not try to resolve them. Then to do the SC by SC review and come back to the terms.
<korn> Peter K: To quickly review the various ideas/descriptions of key terms first - to have them in the back of our minds (and NOT try to resolve them). Then to do the SC by SC review...
Judy: Suggest that anyone joining
later read both the minutes from the Intro meeting and the
Minutes from this meeting (both to be posted to the TF home
page as special posting), and that people also read all of the
documents that Gregg introduced in today's call, before
Friday's meeting.
... Suggest that Andi and Mike and the editors start
identifying areas of the document to be mapped out so that
teams can tackle different sections to create suggestions for
handling them that people can comment on.
<Zakim> Judy, you wanted to suggest some more general homework assignments for all TF participants between now and Friday
Alex: alternative approach is to do the SC by SC approach starting right away to get going and familiarize people with the process.
Mike: From looking at this we found that some work was needed for some SC but other SC need no additional comments to apply them. The facilitators may want to group them in this way.
Judy: Suggested the grouping to
find things so that people can identify where they can
contribute.
... agree with Alex about getting started
<Zakim> shadi, you wanted to ask about exporting from Google Docs to HTML
Shadi: Wondering how to export the things from gougle to html
ANDI: for Friday discuss key terms. Facilitators to identify how to attack the work. EVERYONE read the docs
Judy: Plus everyone should read the TF home page and starter docs
<scribe> done with this item -- covered above
none
No additional items identified at this time
<David> test
<Judy> http://www.w3.org/2012/04/WCAG2ICT-WorkStatement.html#timeline
Judy: Need to have a visible
draft of the document in June, and a circulatable draft in
July
... work needed on specifics for milestones
... need to talk with Facilitators to work this out
Mike: Need a pretty good draft by end of July for European work
Andi: The draft doc and pre-work will help us have something by then
Shadi: Draft needs to be ready and approved by WCAG WG by mid july if it is to be published by end july
[11:25am]
Judy: Need a stable draft to circulate by early July in order to do these things
Judy: Tues time looks like it
won't work for more people than we thought
... May have to move the Tuesday time
... which may be hard
<mapluke> can
can
<shadi> can
<David> can
<pierce_> cannot this friday, but otherwise Friday OK
<Judy> question: who is available for Friday US 10am ET
<Judy> judy can
<Andi> can
Judy: called for show of hands
who can make it on Friday time (all on the phone said that they
could make it usually)
... will collate replies for Tuesday time in general, and
report to Andi and Mike, suggesting a Doodle poll if
necessary
Andi: will revisit the scribe issue on Friday
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