See also: IRC log
felix, do you want me scribe
<fsasaki> scribe: jirka
<Arle> I'm having trouble with GoToMeeting. I may be a bit late :-(
<fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012May/0101.html
<fsasaki> last meeting minutes http://www.w3.org/2012/05/04-mlw-lt-minutes.html
last meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2012/05/04-mlw-lt-minutes.html
minutes approved
Felix: is new time OK with others. 15:00 UTC
Yes
<scribe> ACTION: Update new teleconference time to Felix [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/10-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Update
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to Update new teleconference time [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/10-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-83 - Update new teleconference time [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-05-17].
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to create list of scribes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/10-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-84 - Create list of scribes [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-05-17].
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/overdue
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/64
David: For our group it is not interesting to have such best practice. We should close action item.
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/79
David: feedback indicates that we should separate process related metadata
<Arle> (Sorry all. I'm still having trouble. I need to restart my machine and hope it fixes the problem)
David: changes has been reflected in draft
<scribe> ... new processModel has been created based on data from Pedro
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: still some discussion with Pedro is needed
Cache discussion
Pedro: cache is not about interoperability
<fsasaki> pedro: I'm fine with cache topic to be dropped
Pedro: we are already
implementing this
... caching information can be about whole page or about just
part of it
Dave: cache should be put back into requirements, it would be good if Pedro can provide some examples
<scribe> ACTION: Pedro to Provide example of cache data category [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/10-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-85 - Provide example of cache data category [on Pedro Luis Díez Orzas - due 2012-05-17].
<scribe> ACTION: Dave to Put cache data category back to requirements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/10-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Dave
<scribe> ACTION: David to Put cache data category back to requirements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/10-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - David
<trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. dlewis6, dfilip)
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/81
<scribe> ACTION: dlewis6 to Put cache data category back to requirements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/10-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-86 - Put cache data category back to requirements [on David Lewis - due 2012-05-17].
David: describes status of discussion about Issue-81
Felix: continue discussion by email
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/11
<fsasaki> dave describing http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012May/0098.html
Tadej: genre and purpose are very
close now
... purpose could be changed to targetAudience or
targetConsumer
Milan: describing categories from Let'sMT, if we incorporate some list it should be open for new values
Moritz: there are definitively some values missing in the list of categories
Milan: list of categories is in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012May/0104.html
DavidF: there is different crowdsourced approach as well
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to Summarize discussion about categories [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/10-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action08]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-87 - Summarize discussion about categories [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-05-17].
Pedro: we should prevent ambiguity, we should be very specific in definitions
Felix: we will publish requirements docs as W3C draft on May 20th. Any comments should be send ASAP
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/10
Felix: issue-10 lang vs locale
<fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012May/0072.html
Felix: we are inconsistent now
using BCP47 or UTC #35
... we should unify this
... for language we should use BCP47 exclusively
... for locale we should use UTC #35 and converty "-" to
"_"
Resolved
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to Edit requirements doc so consistently use BCP47/UCT35 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/10-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action09]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-88 - Edit requirements doc so consistently use BCP47/UCT35 [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-05-17].
<fsasaki> felix summarizes XPath discussion
<fsasaki> jirka: XPath 2.0 is pretty well supported now, has much more capabilites than 1.0
<fsasaki> .. if that is too hard for implementers, we can say default is 1.0, but a different mechanism can be used like 2.0
<fsasaki> .. schematron for example says: default is 1.0, there is an attribute "query language" that can contain a preference set: XPath 1.0, XPath 2.0, XQuery
<fsasaki> .. I would prefer 2.0, but we could also say 1.0 is default, and have the attribute described above
<fsasaki> yves: this would be a very good solution from jirka
<fsasaki> .. only concern is conformance: would an application need to be conformant so support all version?
<fsasaki> jirka: we say: MUST support XPath 1.0. Each application should state which other Query language to support
<fsasaki> .. but require at least 1.0
<fsasaki> yves: sounds good to me
<fsasaki> ACTION: jirka to summarize the xpath proposal to the list and shaun [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/10-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action10]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-89 - Summarize the xpath proposal to the list and shaun [on Jirka Kosek - due 2012-05-17].
<fsasaki> call adjourned
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