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<JF> http://w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
<Judy> Issue 204 (ARIA hidden) has a deadline of April 18th, which is tomorrow
<JF> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203
<Judy> Issue 203 (allow alt and longdesc on video) had a deadline, and needs a revised CP
<Judy> Issue 31-c (meta name generator) has a target date (not deadline) for an updated CP of April 20th
<Judy> Issue (###) (buggy alt in the spec itself) by the next coordination meeting
dm: Spec has images with null alt, probably not WCAG conformant -- at least 4
<JF> +Q
jb: We were going to do an
internal pass plus Steve before forwarding on list, were we
not?
... Do I understand you're finding missing alt sometimes, what
about alt that is there?
dm: Mostly good
http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/single-page.html
That's the single page current as of March last
jb: Janina, were you going to coordinate with David on the write up of this?
js: I could do that
jb: Oops, we got our topic names
reversed!
... This topic we just discussed
... So we're now on Alt Bugs
js will proceed with help from the group to:
1> ascertain whether or not 4.8 re alt is by far the most extensive prescriptive guidance for authoring
2. Pont out that 4.8 and Steve's doc are not the same, and the WG needs to decide between the two
3. List out all the points of disagreement re guidance provided
agreement on approach
dm: alt descript of network
diagram is really a longdesc, not an alt
... but in 8.2.1 same image is null alt text
jf: And no describedby, or other
<JF> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
<laura> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/CorrectHidden
jb: Laura has taken recent
discussion into a proposed CP
... One question is whether JS wants to work from this or start
another?
<JF> +Q
jb: What needed to get this done?
jf: My action was to withdraw
mine once we have a replacement in place
... Apologize for my loaded language, but the basics are
there
... Not sure how to make my points if I withdraw my cp
... Maybe rather than ref my note, just rewrite to make lang
more neutral and straight forward
jb: Do you want to flag items?
jf: Laura has captured the key items
jb: Can I reverse the
question?
... John, are there specific things that you want to make sure
Laura and Janina don't drop?
... Important not to accuse someone of misunderstand or of
intentionally misusing. Better to focus on the substance of
what we need to put forward.
[jb discussing with lc wiki editing strategies ... ]
jf: I'm working on my own blog illustrating the points around hidden, including screenshots from ZoomText
jb: Wondering how one maximizes
reads of external blog evidence?
... Suggest providing the text of what is said even when
providing a URI in the WBS
... Even though it sounds redundant, it's useful to include
these things in a WBS response to make sure that the dots are
connected for people
jf: My goal is to have in hand evidence to backup our assertions
jb: Agree and appreciate. My comments are to make sure people get it and actually look at it
jf: My intent is to withdraw once there's another in place, is that still the group's understanding?
[agreement in meeting]
<Zakim> Judy, you wanted to suggest something about blogged evidence and to suggest *how* to provide linked off-survey evidence
jb: Last meeting, John, I think you were wrestling with this?
jf: Yes, my action is to
rewrite
... Something along the lines of let video take longdesc
... I was out of town last week
... Now thinking of 2 cps
... One for alt, one for longdesc
jb: Are you sure you need separate proposals?
jf: That's what we said last week!
js: I think we misunderstood each other last week
<JF> http://w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposal/Issue203
jb: We're now calling it issue-31c
<Judy> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Text_Alternatives/Meta_Generator_Decision_Comments
jb: We have a skelaton from LC
using Maciej's rejection ...
... My task is to add content re what they're missing
... We have also had use cases added that I'm unconvinced help.
Would appreciate feedback on that
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