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<trackbot> Date: 12 April 2012
<MikeSmith> argh
<MikeSmith> Zakim being slow
<Judy> Scribe: Janina
<scribe> scribe: janina
<paulc> beeping stopped when I went on manual mute on my end.
<paulc> Nothing to add on my part.
janina: Janina explains that PF
is still working on finalization of the language regarding
ARIA-Hidden in our User Agent Implementation Guide
... We've agreed on language, but as of yesterday, it had not
yet been checked into our doc
... Cynthia is charged from PF to work with me on a CP for
Issue-204
judy: Points out that people
continue to look for other approaches while Issue-30 remains
unresolved
... This is why reviewing this timeline is important
janina: Yes, When we finish on Issue-204, and that means CP by 18 April, Issue-30 is next
mike: Main point here is to ask people to look and bring up any issues
<MikeSmith> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/the-img-element.html#alt
mike: One issue is whether this
section should even be in the spec
... However, if it remains, we want not to conflict with
WAI-WCAG guidance, and with WCAG techniques
... So, please look at this section and provide comment
judy: Suggest doing subteam reports first might help with today's agenda, as there's subteam work on this topic
mike: OK, let's do that ...
<Judy> http://www.w3.org/2012/04/10-text-minutes.html
judy: Noting Text Subteam meeting
and also recent series of coordination meetings with two WG
Chairs, Janina and myself
... Coordinations have been helpful
... Discussions have included alt bug issues
... Also, Janina and Leif are working to identify any
additional potential problems
... Anyone who can help, please coordinate with Janina and
Leif
... We hope to be complete with that review in the Text Subteam
by next Tuesday
... Secondly, we are reviewing the alt on images in the HTML
spec to see whether there are issues there
... Any help on that please coordinate with David
McDonald
... Also, we discussed I-204, have already had report here
...
... I-203 -- which has a longdesc dependency -- to be more
specific
<JF> +Q
mike: OK, other subteam reports?
jf: Want to note that we want to call the Media Subteam back into a few meetings to clear some issues that have emerged and remain unresolved
judy: I believe there are some
pending edits for already resolved matters ...
... So may not need reconvene of Media?
<MikeSmith> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-188
<MikeSmith> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-203
<MikeSmith> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-194
janina: Noting that I-194, I-203
still unresolved and TF may have a preference
... Also that there's disagreement and perhaps misunderstanding
on I-203 -- whether a longder description is needed on video
and whether a trnascript does, or does not fill that need
... also the need to prove our theory of multi-level
navigation
jf: Agree
judy: OK, with that clarification I support this
jf: Noting that while conversation is still ongoing, the possibility of consensus on approaches is worthy of pursuit
mike: Also Canvas issues ...
<MikeSmith> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-131
mike: Rich is not here
today
... We still have I-131, and I-201 ...
<MikeSmith> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-201
<MikeSmith> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-205
janina: I had a top-of-my-head suggestion during last week's WG telecon to extend deadline on I-201 inasmuch as canvas is to be discussed during upcoming f2f
mike: Do we want to resolve for an extension?
judy: Makes sense given that people have agreed to work on that
mike: Let's bring that to the WG then
judy: Noting three issues relating to canvas, I131, I201, and I205 maybe should extend until post F2F?
paul: We believe 131 is blocked
by 205, we think with minor changes ready for survey
... current opinion of two of the chairs
... I expect to begin work on a survey for 205 and 131
... Don't believe 131 and 205 need to be on F2F, unless there's
something people want to discuss
mike: So perhaps only an extension on 201?
paul: Perhaps only the request of chairs to not take action on 201 until after the F2F?
<paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0686.html
paul: Notes that Counter
Proposals on 201 were due last night midnight Boston time
... Notes a CP from Ted is here
<paulc> On time counter proposal from Ted: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/User:Eoconnor/ISSUE-201
paul: So the request is that the chairs not move these forward until after the F2F?
judy: yes
paul: I'll follow up on that
ike: I do think we should get this recorded on the WG call
<paulc> dropping off to prep for the WG call
mike: Anything else today?
[silence]
mike: A scribe for next week?
<MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Scribe_List
michael: Steve would be top of
list if he's here ...
... Rich, Cynthia, David, John, in order ...
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