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<trackbot> Date: 05 April 2012
<scribe> scribenick: glenn
sean: introduces new member,
jason, from cpc
... asks for others to introduce themselves also
ISSUE-166?
<trackbot> ISSUE-166 -- authoritative schemaLocation for authoritative schemas like TTML -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/166
sean: need to post a schema online for tool access
glenn: should be able to do so, but may want to combine modules into single resource
mike: do tools need one resource?
glenn: maybe not
action glenn to work with plh to create accessible schema
<trackbot> Created ACTION-55 - Work with plh to create accessible schema [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-04-12].
mike: single file is desirable
ACTION-41?
<trackbot> ACTION-41 -- Sean Hayes to ACTION: Sean to start the Note on how to use TTML with HTML5/CSS [recorded in ]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-ttml-minutes.html#action03] -- due 2012-04-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/41
sean: wip
ACTION-44?
<trackbot> ACTION-44 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to put in place a new errata and ask plh to set up the redirect to it -- due 2012-03-08 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44
sean: wip
ACTION-51?
<trackbot> ACTION-51 -- Glenn Adams to review and draft CP for resolving ISSUE-151 -- due 2012-03-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/51
ACTION-52?
<trackbot> ACTION-52 -- Sean Hayes to draft CP for resolving ISSUE-154 -- due 2012-03-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/52
ACTION-53?
<trackbot> ACTION-53 -- Glenn Adams to address or draft CP to resolve ISSUE-156 -- due 2012-03-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/53
glenn: wip on these
ISSUE-165?
<trackbot> ISSUE-165 -- allowing set to animate more than one attribute. -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/165
general agreement on adding this feature expressed
in v.next
RESOLUTION: add support for animation of multiple attrs as described in ISSUE-165
mike: asks if we would support
fragment or document updates
... can update documents today
... if set becomes complicated, may make fragment or document
updates more attractive
sean: shouldn't make too complicated without considering update concepts
action sean to write CP for performing multiple attribute animation with set, per issue-165
<trackbot> Created ACTION-56 - Write CP for performing multiple attribute animation with set, per issue-165 [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-04-12].
action glenn to populate a ttml11 directory for authoring v.next, referring to existing ttml10 materials in way that best supports synchronization with changes in ttml10
<trackbot> Created ACTION-57 - Populate a ttml11 directory for authoring v.next, referring to existing ttml10 materials in way that best supports synchronization with changes in ttml10 [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-04-12].
ISSUE-160?
<trackbot> ISSUE-160 -- Centered flush left captions -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/160
sean: solution will need to
introduce margin props and automatic width computations
... has been looking at css3 for help
glenn: perhaps the new xsl-fo 2.0 reqs deals with content shrink fit
action sean to draft CP for adding margin suppport
<trackbot> Created ACTION-58 - Draft CP for adding margin suppport [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-04-12].
action sean to draft CP for adding content shrink fit features
<trackbot> Created ACTION-59 - Draft CP for adding content shrink fit features [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-04-12].
RESOLUTION: to define support for margins
no objection
RESOLVE: to investigate support for content shrink fit
ISSUE-20?
<trackbot> ISSUE-20 -- Region border not supported -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/20
sean: EIA 708 defines windows
(regions) with borders
... but TTML does not presently define borders
... wonders whether this is important for smpte
jason: almost all captions in US
are authored for 608, and very little use of 708 features
... borders not being used in real world (of broadcast)
... [in US markets]
mike: need to keep user controls
separate from authored/exchanged content
... more serious compliance issues than borders
RESOLUTION: not to introduce borders in v.next at this time; i.e., to defer this feature
ISSUE-21?
<trackbot> ISSUE-21 -- window anchor points not supported? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/21
ISSUE-22?
<trackbot> ISSUE-22 -- window fade in/out not supported? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/22
sean: these again are 708
features that TT does not presently support
... window anchor points allow relative (percentage) based
positioning of 708 windows (i.e., TT regions)
... what do people think about the need for these features?
jason: more a matter of user control (for window positioning); content isn't using; most decoders don't support correctly
RESOLUTION: defer both authored non-absolute region positioning and fades
mike: smpte is in process of reviewing 103 regs [?]; this might better be discussed in smpte then reintroduced here if needed
sean: sure, if smpte wishes to provide further input, that would be great
ISSUE-23?
<trackbot> ISSUE-23 -- intermediate animation of extent -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/23
ISSUE-21 defer
ISSUE-22 defer
<mike> "103 regs" = US 47CFR79.103 http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db0720/FCC-10-129A1.pdf
ISSUE-21: defer
<trackbot> ISSUE-21 window anchor points not supported? notes added
ISSUE-22: defer
<trackbot> ISSUE-22 window fade in/out not supported? notes added
sean: table ISSUE-23 for
now
... all props are discretely animatable with set
... when will report from smpte come out?
mike: will update group next week
trackbot, end meeting
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