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MAWG telco

20 Mar 2012

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Attendees

Present
thierry, pierre-antoine, werner
Regrets
Mari-Carmen, Florian, Daniel
Chair
thierry
Scribe
pchampin

Contents


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open actions

http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open

close ACTION-454

<trackbot> ACTION-454 Extract atomic JASOM responses closed

close ACTION-455

<trackbot> ACTION-455 Review the Media RSS, TexFeed and YouTube JSON files closed

close ACTION-458

<trackbot> ACTION-458 Update implementation report closed

close action-459

<trackbot> ACTION-459 Send tests for general behavior test cases closed

close action-461

<trackbot> ACTION-461 Check format of implementation report with thierry closed

close action-463

<trackbot> ACTION-463 to review the genetal tests closed

close action-464

<trackbot> ACTION-464 Review the XMP DRF and TTL files closed

Moving The API spec to PR.

<tmichel> The implementation report says that all tests are passed at least by two implementations

<tmichel> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/API/implementation-report.html

tmichel: the implementation report is almost done
... we have fullfilled the criteria: 2 implementations for each test

<tmichel> REmains an issue about the General tests cases which some are missing links: G1, G5,G6,G7

<tmichel> Werner proposed

<tmichel> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2012Mar/0022.html

<tmichel> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/API/implementation-report.html#L549

tmichel: I've added the suggested column "relevant parameters" (see URL above)

werner: it's good; for G5 it's tricky to fill this column
... needs to provide several URLs that are reachable for the implementation,
... so will differ from an implementation to another

tmichel: we need to be able to answer the question "how can you test without a test file?"

<wbailer> werner: proposed solution: state in needed parameters just that two metadata sources need to be created

<wbailer> ... list actual URIs of the sources used for the implementations that passed the test

tmichel: next problem: some cases have no input

werner: actually, the files that are currently linked are too specific, they are just examples
... it would be less confusing to direct the text to *any* of the input files provided below
... the test is not to work with those specific files only, but with any file

tmichel: propose to remove the links in G5, G6, G7

werner: could be done as well for G2, G3, G4, with a note explaining that any input file can be used

RESOLUTION: remove the link for tests G5, G6, G7

werner: the file for G2 is pathological, but G2 should also work with a valid file

pchampin: that would be two variants of the same test

tmichel: so for G2, G3, G4 we keep the link as they are, add a new test for G2 with a correct input (non-pathological)

werner: another issue: note #2 below the table, about the JSON response
... should we instead provide the three possible answers
... with a note explaining that either one is a valid response?

pchampin: I agree

tmichel: something else that may raise a question: implementation 2 & 3 are from the same university and research center
... not really a problem for most tests, as they are fullfilled by either 1 and 3 or 2 and 3
... except for the "General behaviour tests"
... To be on the safe side, it would be better that Implementation 1 fullfill them.
... Eitherways, we could be told "implementation 2 and 3 are actually the same, so those tests are passed by only one implementation"

werner: it should not be too complicated for Implementation 1 to fullfill them, actually it really should
... I'll check with Florian & Sebastian

tmichel: once all those changes are done, I'll ask the team (during next call) if we agree to ask for the transition to PR

<tmichel> API PR version

<tmichel> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/API10/PR/

tmichel: I will check with Florian, but I don't think we received any comment during CR

<tmichel> Action Thierry to check with Florian if there are updates to be done in the PR version

<trackbot> Created ACTION-465 - Check with Florian if there are updates to be done in the PR version [on Thierry Michel - due 2012-03-27].

<tmichel> Additional mappings

additional mappings

<tmichel> a- Schema.org maping first draft provided by JP.

<tmichel> ACTION mari- Carmen to review the Schema.org maping

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - mari-

JP provided a first version of the SChema.org mapping

<tmichel> ACTION mari-Carmen to review the Schema.org maping

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - mari-Carmen

<tmichel> 4.Issue with DC XPath Expressions

<tmichel> Additional mappings provided by Sebastian for YouTube

<tmichel> ACTION Wonsuk to update the new YouTube mapping table

<trackbot> Created ACTION-466 - Update the new YouTube mapping table [on WonSuk Lee - due 2012-03-27].

.Issue with DC XPath Expressions

<tmichel> sorry

<tmichel> Issue with YouTube XPath Expressions

tmichel: do we have to update the mapping table, or do we have to update the examples?

werner: as far as I understood, this requires a change in the mapping table

<tmichel> if it is the Xpath expressions in the ontology REC, it needs an errata

tmichel: in that case we need an erratum for that

<tmichel> ACTION Wonsuk to review the Xpath Expressions in the YOU Tube mapping table

<trackbot> Created ACTION-467 - Review the Xpath Expressions in the YOU Tube mapping table [on WonSuk Lee - due 2012-03-27].

Summary of Action Items

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