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<alex> hi Michel, I am on the call
<alex> not sure u can hear me
<emiller> Eric from Squishymedia (Portland OR) here
Harry, UofPittsburg - biomedical informatics, want to learn more about the group
Mary, U of Georgia - ontology for health care
<egombocz> apologies to all - I will have to leave early today due to an overlapping meeting I need to attend
<alex> h Iker
<alex> its been some time
<AndreaS> Somebody should change the UK access point number!!! There is somebody answering pretending to be "my partner in evolution and success..."
<iker> Hi Alex, how are you?
<alex> nice to see u
<iker> nice to see you too Alex
<alex> are u in the US?
<iker> yes I'm in Philly
<iker> what about you?
<alex> great, we should try to catch up later this year
<iker> feel free to ping me whenever fits for you
michel dumontier - firstname.lastname@example.org
<emiller> thanks, I'll follow up with an email later this AM
<ericP> michel: we all have to work with RDF data
<ericP> ... alex is going to walk us through tools
presentation: how to deliver the
power of rdf datasets to the user?
... all about the user experience
<ericP> scribenick: michel
<ericP> [slide 3]
<ericP> [slide 4]
presentation: recent review paper
indicated the lack of understanding and knowledge makes it
difficult to use
... review on visualizing data: hTp://iospress.metapress.com/content/2822p340453463g1/
<ericP> [slide 9]
scribe: would like more adaptable interfaces
<ericP> [slide 10]
<mscottm> URL to slides?
scribe: linked data browsers run in html browsers;
slides: not much in terms of
... should allow us to know what's in a dataset, how to find and get data, how to manipulate the data and personalize it
<ericP> [slide 12]
slides: sig.ma - semantic mashup
<ericP> [slide 13]
slides: relfinder - finds the path between two entities - explore the relationships
<egombocz> you may want to look at IO's Sentient Knowledge Explorer - free personal version can be downloaded at: http://www.io-informatics.com/ (upper right link)
slides: visor - pivoted search
<ericP> [slide 15]
<AndreaS> Is Visor by IO-Informatics ?
slides: how can we improve the user experience?
<ericP> [slide 16]
<AndreaS> Who is producing Visor, is there a download link ?
slides: content display - for instance lots of development around drupal
scribe: information workbench: discovery, integration, visualization, search, exploration, analytics, collaborative authoring
<ericP> [slide 18]
<ericP> [slide 20]
scribe: Bio2RDF as the core dataset; infrastructure, knowledge resource
<ericP> [slide 22]
<egombocz> There is a nice UI for Visual SPARQL queries in Sentient Knoweledge Explorer (KE)
scribe: biosparl.org, bioqueries - a wiki to share quires on linked data
<egombocz> KE can directly query and import any SPARQL endpoint and merge it with experimental results
<egombocz> KE also allows to import classes and/or instances from SPARQL endpoints
lena - sparql should be hidden deep in the application
<egombocz> Users don't need to write SPARQL; they can use graphical queries
<egombocz> Apologies - my other meeting is starting, need to log off
<Zakim> ericP, you wanted to ask about network browsers like cytoscape and to mention Metaome
<AndreaS> Metaome: link ?
ericp - metaome targeted towards pharmaceutical data
scribe: general network browsing
e.g. cytoscape to get the whole network in front of them
... whole network vs slice
... what actually works for researchers?
alex: looking for HCI studies
that show how people want to consume this
... based on results, build other queries
<alex> query - answer pos processing
<alex> we are trying dasty3
<alex> a DAS browser
<amrapali> sgvizler is also a recent tool used to visualize rdf data: http://code.google.com/p/sgvizler/
<Zakim> michel, you wanted to ask about sparallax
harry: users want answers to questions
alex: yes that's one way to do it
- hci focuses on task-based interaction
... more than one simple question
lena - lots of knowledge in literature
scribe: tools to work to work with literature?
<Lena> @ericP: great reference about the distilbio.com, the query engine is great
<Lena> @michel, that's not me talking :O
gopubmed is useful - http://www.gopubmed.org/web/gopubmed/
alex: elsevier grand challenge
<AndreaS> who is speaking>?
alex: gather use cases
<alex> Bioqueries (http://bioqueries.uma.es/)
<ericP> michel: i would like to see visualization as a core HCLS activity
<alex> so do I
<ericP> ... we should consider a forming a TF
<mscottm> Andrea get to speak yet?
<alex> visualization and manipulation of RDF data
<ericP> ... this would be a good way to gather use cases
<ericP> ... we could engage vendors like IO-Informatics
<HarryHochheiser> I'd love to join in a task force on visualization and use cases...
everybody: please indicate your interest in a visualization task force in the irc
<emiller> I'd be interested
<alex> I will be happy to share use cases, no problem
andrea: users employ very basic
... focus on use cases is good
... analytics and visualization? screenshot?
<Lena> +1 (i would propose a visualization working group - from w3c)
<AndreaS> email >> email@example.com
integrate not just rdf data sources
<AndreaS> Alex, which is your email ?
<Zakim> michel, you wanted to ask about sparallax
<alex> is my email
<Lena> mscottm: bottleneck is lack of semantics
<Lena> mscottm: difficult to find graph data
<maryam> My email for sending that info: firstname.lastname@example.org
<alex> ok, Maryam got it
<alex> my email is email@example.com
mscottm: take some features, and
project one feature along a dimension (e.g. space, time or
both) and look for patterns
... force directed layouts, look for visual clusters
<Lena> sounds like mscottm is volunteering to lead the tf :)
mscottm: what we're missing is general tools to map from semantics to visualization (type, colour, size, etc)
mscottm: keep the query + view
<alex> we keep talking about visualization but the use cases will involve query-answering
@alex - i don't agree that they are are all query answering
<AndreaS> Visualization is about finding insight in information, hence it's in some definition query-answering
<Lena> wrt visualization, exhibit3 (on which biodistill was built), is a good startng point
<emiller> thanks everyone
<alex> bye all
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