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<janina> scribe: david
<scribe> scribe: David
JB: There is considerable concern that chairs do not understand the arguments of the meta Generator proposal, do not understand the propsal
Janina: main issue... whether or not in a CMS there still is a need for alt text...
Janina: important to understand that there is no CMS that prevent the ability to provide ALT text,
Laura: not only CMS but all kinds
of authoring tools. Dreamweaver etc...
... they all allow alt text to be created which conforms to WCAG
<Judy> Judy: We need to better emphasize that the user requirement for alt is real, but getting left out of the decision-making process.
<Judy> Janina: the evidence that they're requesting is taking us off on tangents; they are missing the main points.
JB: ARIA Described by... have requested a coordination meeting regarding procedural problems.
<Judy> JB: notes that John Foliot collecting examples to disprove the premise of the 204 call for proposal
<Judy> ...he needs to post it onto the lists
<Judy> Janina: or analyze it first
<Judy> JB: i'll suggest that he posts it
<Judy> JS: FYI, there is 'vestigial' text in ARIA that needs to be updated...
<Judy> JS: sent survey on SF CP on WG location of alt guidance
<Judy> ...will close tomorrow before the TF
<Judy> JB: people may not understand that it's still open for comment
<Judy> JS: will extend.
<Judy> JB: the example evidence for alt was not as I expected; fewer long ones than I expected, including many that were "appropriate"; how interruptible is alt read-out, if starting a longer one?
<Judy> JS: usually reads out automatically
<Judy> DM: it is interruptible by arrowing down through it
<Judy> DM: and ARIA describedby is read twice on the page
<Judy> JB: are there were others that fell into a short-then-long distinction that could easily map to alt-then-longdesc
<Judy> ...so this may best be deferrable till after longdesc is settled.
<Judy> JS: CP for ish 203 is also missing, urgent to get
<Judy> JB: ping John?
<Judy> JS: will do
<Judy> Next Meeting:
<Judy> - not next week (CSUN)
<Judy> - following week only if we have other confirmed attendance
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