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RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference

17 Jan 2012

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
dmcneil, EricP, Ivan, mhausenblas, joerg, seema, cygri, Ashok_Malhotra, Souri, juansequeda, David, Eric, Richard, Michael, Joerg, Seema, Ashok, Juan
Regrets
Marcelo
Chair
Michael
Scribe
mhausenblas

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 17 January 2012

<scribe> scribenick: mhausenblas

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PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2012/01/10-RDB2RDF-minutes.html

RESOLUTION: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2012/01/10-RDB2RDF-minutes.html

Pending review issues

https://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/pendingreview

ISSUE-57?

<trackbot> ISSUE-57 -- R2RML doesn't allow R2RML documents in RDF/XML syntax -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/57

ACTION-181?

<trackbot> ACTION-181 -- Richard Cyganiak to implement ISSUE-57 resolution -- due 2011-12-27 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/181

close ACTION-181

<trackbot> ACTION-181 Implement ISSUE-57 resolution closed

ISSUE-68?

<trackbot> ISSUE-68 -- Multiple PredicateMaps in a PredicateObjectMap -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/68

ACTION-183?

<trackbot> ACTION-183 -- Richard Cyganiak to implement the resolution to ISSUE-68 -- due 2012-01-17 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/183

ISSUE-70?

<trackbot> ISSUE-70 -- Behaviour of fully qualified column names in rr:sqlQuery -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/70

<cygri> ACTION: cygri to implement ericP's change to vendor extension note: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0023.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/17-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-185 - Implement ericP's change to vendor extension note: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0023.html [on Richard Cyganiak - due 2012-01-24].

ISSUE-71?

<trackbot> ISSUE-71 -- Column name collisions between child and parent queries in RefObjectMaps -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/71

ISSUE-73?

<trackbot> ISSUE-73 -- Section 11 cleanup -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/73

ACTION-174?

<trackbot> ACTION-174 -- Eric Prud'hommeaux to implement ISSUE-69 resolution in DM -- due 2011-12-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/174

close ACTION-174

<trackbot> ACTION-174 Implement ISSUE-69 resolution in DM closed

ACTION-185?

<trackbot> ACTION-185 -- Richard Cyganiak to implement ericP's change to vendor extension note: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0023.html -- due 2012-01-24 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/185

<cygri> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0023.html

Richard: Hope that the proposed text addresses Eric's concern

<ivan> For the minutes: We will add one more sentence to the end of this Note (plus some wording tweaks). It will then read:

<ivan> [[

<ivan> Note: R2RML extensions that handle vendor-specific types or user-defined types beyond the standard SQL 2008 datatypes are expected to do so by behaving as if the table above contained additional rows that associate the SQL datatypes with appropriate RDF-compatible datatypes (e.g., the XML Schema built-in types [XMLSCHEMA2]), and appropriate lexical transformations where required. Note however that future versions of R2RML may also normatively add additional row

<ivan> s to this table.

<ivan> ]]

Eric: Agreed

Ashok: How do we proceed here?

Richard: Expect my updates till end of week

ACTION-167

ACTION-167?

<trackbot> ACTION-167 -- Juan Sequeda to look at the comments 9, 11 and 15 and reply to them officially -- due 2011-11-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/167

close ACTION-167

<trackbot> ACTION-167 Look at the comments 9, 11 and 15 and reply to them officially closed

<scribe> ACTION: Juan to make sure comments 9, 11 and 15 are in the correct DM document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/17-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-186 - Make sure comments 9, 11 and 15 are in the correct DM document [on Juan Sequeda - due 2012-01-24].

<cygri> ACTION: cygri to review/incorporate Ashok's changes from http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0019.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/17-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-187 - Review/incorporate Ashok's changes from http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0019.html [on Richard Cyganiak - due 2012-01-24].

Towards CR

Ivan: We can only take the CR resolution when the docs are ready/frozen
... R2RML as per Richard will be available by end of week
... Is DM ready by end of week as well?

Juan: Yes

Ivan: So, we can review the documents starting on Friday 20

<Souri> Let us do a review first. I am particularly concerned if we have rich examples illustrating schema-qualified and case-sensitive SQL identifiers, esp. in the DM doc.

<ericP> i suspect that i should delete some text nicely flagged in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/LC/Overview#defn-reference_property_IRI

<cygri> Sections that still have changes pending: SotD, 6.3, 10, 11, B.2

Michael: The plan would be that if by this Friday the docs are ready/frozen, everyone, but esp. David should review and send in comments by CoB Monday 23 Jan and the Editors address them till next week's meeting

<juansequeda> http://jay.w3.org/~eric/Overview.xml.diffr1=1.35;r2=1.36;f=h.html

(Editors trying to figure what really changes)

Souri: My concern is re section 2 - examples
... we have to be careful about these
... we need to make sure that it's covered in the TC as well

Michael: Can I ask one Editor from each document to inform the WG on Friday when they freeze the documents?

Richard: if not double-quoted then it's case insensitive, yielding a canonical all upper-case

<juansequeda> +q to ask if the fastest solution is to put all examples in uppercase and therefore the resulting RDF also in uppercase?

<Souri> "People" => translates to "PEOPLE"

<Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to discuss process

<cygri> ericP++

<Zakim> juansequeda, you wanted to ask if the fastest solution is to put all examples in uppercase and therefore the resulting RDF also in uppercase?

<dmcneil> +q

<dmcneil> no

<mhausenblas_> Phone (VoIP) is dead

<mhausenblas_> I can't continue

<mhausenblas_> neither chairing nor scribing

<dmcneil> +1-617-761-6200

<mhausenblas_> I guess we're more or less done?

<dmcneil> eric & souri are talking now

<dmcneil> +q

<ericP> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/LC/Overview

David: Can't tell if there was a gap or only make the examples consitent?

ericP: making it consistent

Michael: Editors please let us know when the frozen documents are ready for review, everyone please send in comments by CoB 23 Jan!

(meeting adjourned)

trackbot, end telecon

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: cygri to implement ericP's change to vendor extension note: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0023.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/17-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: cygri to review/incorporate Ashok's changes from http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0019.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/17-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Juan to make sure comments 9, 11 and 15 are in the correct DM document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/17-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action02]
 
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Regrets: Marcelo
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