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17:03:28 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
17:03:30 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7322733
17:03:30 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM scheduled to start 3 minutes ago
17:03:31 <trackbot> Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
17:03:31 <trackbot> Date: 17 January 2012
17:03:38 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
17:03:38 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
17:04:34 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0020.html
17:04:55 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
17:04:55 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has not yet started, mhausenblas
17:04:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Seema, juansequeda, joerg, Ashok_Malhotra, dmcneil, cygri, LeeF, mhausenblas, ivan, iv_an_ru, betehess, trackbot, ericP
17:05:12 <mhausenblas> Zakim, this will be SW_RDB2RDF
17:05:12 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas, I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM already started
17:05:16 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
17:05:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see dmcneil, EricP, Ivan, mhausenblas
17:05:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Seema, juansequeda, joerg, Ashok_Malhotra, dmcneil, cygri, LeeF, mhausenblas, ivan, iv_an_ru, betehess, trackbot, ericP
17:05:25 <mhausenblas> Chair: Michael
17:05:30 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas 
17:05:37 <mhausenblas> present+ David
17:05:42 <mhausenblas> present+ Eric
17:05:46 <mhausenblas> present+ Ivan
17:05:49 <mhausenblas> present+ Richard
17:05:52 <mhausenblas> present+ Michael
17:05:57 <Zakim> +??P10
17:06:02 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:06:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/17-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:06:08 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, please make logs public
17:06:24 <mhausenblas> Zakim, ??P10 is joerg 
17:06:24 <Zakim> +joerg; got it
17:06:30 <mhausenblas> present+ Joerg
17:06:48 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Marcelo
17:07:02 <Zakim> +seema
17:07:04 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is with me
17:07:04 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
17:07:18 <mhausenblas> present+ Seema
17:07:47 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
17:07:59 <mhausenblas> present+ Ashok
17:08:06 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:08:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/17-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:08:38 <mhausenblas> Topic: Admin
17:08:40 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2012/01/10-RDB2RDF-minutes.html
17:09:03 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION:  Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2012/01/10-RDB2RDF-minutes.html
17:09:12 <mhausenblas> Topic: Pending review issues
17:09:18 <mhausenblas> https://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/pendingreview
17:09:27 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-57?
17:09:27 <trackbot> ISSUE-57 -- R2RML doesn't allow R2RML documents in RDF/XML syntax -- pending review
17:09:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/57
17:09:41 <mhausenblas> ACTION-181?
17:09:41 <trackbot> ACTION-181 -- Richard Cyganiak to implement ISSUE-57 resolution -- due 2011-12-27 -- PENDINGREVIEW
17:09:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/181
17:10:30 <mhausenblas> close ACTION-181
17:10:30 <trackbot> ACTION-181 Implement ISSUE-57 resolution closed
17:10:46 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-68?
17:10:47 <trackbot> ISSUE-68 -- Multiple PredicateMaps in a PredicateObjectMap -- pending review
17:10:47 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/68
17:11:02 <mhausenblas> ACTION-183?
17:11:02 <trackbot> ACTION-183 -- Richard Cyganiak to implement the resolution to ISSUE-68 -- due 2012-01-17 -- OPEN
17:11:02 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/183
17:11:17 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-70?
17:11:17 <trackbot> ISSUE-70 -- Behaviour of fully qualified column names in rr:sqlQuery -- pending review
17:11:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/70
17:11:21 <Zakim> +??P20
17:11:52 <ivan> zakim, ??P20 is Souri
17:11:52 <Zakim> +Souri; got it
17:12:11 <mhausenblas> present+ Souri
17:12:24 <Zakim> +juansequeda
17:12:26 <Souri> Souri has joined #rdb2rdf
17:12:32 <cygri> ACTION: cygri to implement ericP's change to vendor extension note: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0023.html
17:12:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-185 - Implement ericP's change to vendor extension note: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0023.html [on Richard Cyganiak - due 2012-01-24].
17:12:39 <mhausenblas> present+ Juan
17:13:16 <Souri> zakim, mute me
17:13:16 <Zakim> Souri should now be muted
17:13:18 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-71?
17:13:19 <trackbot> ISSUE-71 -- Column name collisions between child and parent queries in RefObjectMaps -- pending review
17:13:19 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/71
17:13:47 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-73?
17:13:47 <trackbot> ISSUE-73 -- Section 11 cleanup -- pending review
17:13:47 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/73
17:14:41 <mhausenblas> ACTION-174?
17:14:41 <trackbot> ACTION-174 -- Eric Prud'hommeaux to implement ISSUE-69 resolution in DM -- due 2011-12-02 -- OPEN
17:14:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/174
17:15:02 <mhausenblas> close ACTION-174
17:15:03 <trackbot> ACTION-174 Implement ISSUE-69 resolution in DM closed
17:15:34 <mhausenblas> ACTION-185?
17:15:34 <trackbot> ACTION-185 -- Richard Cyganiak to implement ericP's change to vendor extension note: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0023.html -- due 2012-01-24 -- OPEN
17:15:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/185
17:15:49 <cygri> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0023.html
17:16:39 <mhausenblas> Richard: Hope that the proposed text addresses Eric's concern
17:16:43 <ivan> For the minutes: We will add one more sentence to the end of this Note (plus some wording tweaks). It will then read:
17:16:43 <ivan> [[
17:16:43 <ivan> Note: R2RML extensions that handle vendor-specific types or user-defined types beyond the standard SQL 2008 datatypes are expected to do so by behaving as if the table above contained additional rows that associate the SQL datatypes with appropriate RDF-compatible datatypes (e.g., the XML Schema built-in types [XMLSCHEMA2]), and appropriate lexical transformations where required. Note however that future versions of R2RML may also normatively add additional row
17:16:45 <ivan> s to this table.
17:16:47 <ivan> ]]
17:16:47 <mhausenblas> Eric: Agreed
17:16:57 <mhausenblas> Ashok: How do we proceed here?
17:17:09 <mhausenblas> Richard: Expect my updates till end of week
17:17:32 <mhausenblas> ACTION-167
17:17:39 <mhausenblas> ACTION-167?
17:17:39 <trackbot> ACTION-167 -- Juan Sequeda to look at the comments 9, 11 and 15 and reply to them officially -- due 2011-11-15 -- OPEN
17:17:39 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/167
17:18:39 <mhausenblas> close ACTION-167
17:18:39 <trackbot> ACTION-167 Look at the comments 9, 11 and 15 and reply to them officially closed
17:19:09 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Juan to make sure comments 9, 11 and 15 are in the correct DM document
17:19:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-186 - Make sure comments 9, 11 and 15 are in the correct DM document [on Juan Sequeda - due 2012-01-24].
17:19:47 <cygri> ACTION: cygri to review/incorporate Ashok's changes from http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0019.html
17:19:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-187 - Review/incorporate Ashok's changes from http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jan/0019.html [on Richard Cyganiak - due 2012-01-24].
17:20:06 <mhausenblas> Topic: Towards CR
17:22:19 <mhausenblas> Ivan: We can only take the CR resolution when the docs are ready/frozen
17:22:36 <mhausenblas> Ivan: R2RML as per Richard will be available by end of week
17:22:53 <mhausenblas> Ivan: Is DM ready by end of week as well?
17:22:56 <mhausenblas> Juan: Yes
17:23:22 <mhausenblas> Ivan: So, we can review the documents starting on Friday 20
17:23:24 <Souri> Let us do a review first. I am particularly concerned if we have rich examples illustrating schema-qualified and case-sensitive SQL identifiers, esp. in the DM doc.
17:23:57 <ericP> i suspect that i should delete some text nicely flagged in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/LC/Overview#defn-reference_property_IRI
17:26:15 <cygri> Sections that still have changes pending: SotD, 6.3, 10, 11, B.2
17:28:08 <mhausenblas> Michael: The plan would be that if by this Friday the docs are ready/frozen, everyone, but esp. David should review and send in comments by CoB Monday 23 Jan and the Editors address them till next week's meeting
17:29:19 <juansequeda> http://jay.w3.org/~eric/Overview.xml.diffr1=1.35;r2=1.36;f=h.html
17:29:37 <mhausenblas> (Editors trying to figure what really changes)
17:29:59 <Souri> q+
17:30:53 <mhausenblas> ack Souri 
17:31:13 <mhausenblas> Souri: My concern is re section 2 - examples
17:32:02 <mhausenblas> ... we have to be careful about these
17:32:30 <mhausenblas> ... we need to make sure that it's covered in the TC as well
17:32:57 <cygri> q+
17:33:06 <mhausenblas> Michael: Can I ask one Editor from each document to inform the WG on Friday when they freeze the documents?
17:33:07 <mhausenblas> q?
17:33:43 <mhausenblas> ack cygri 
17:33:48 <mhausenblas> q+ re process
17:34:42 <mhausenblas> Richard: if not double-quoted then it's case insensitive, yielding a canonical all upper-case
17:35:09 <juansequeda> +q to ask if the fastest solution is to put all examples in uppercase and therefore the resulting RDF also in uppercase?
17:35:12 <Souri> "People" => translates to "PEOPLE"
17:35:28 <mhausenblas> ack me
17:35:28 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to discuss process
17:35:33 <ivan> q+
17:36:28 <mhausenblas> q?
17:36:55 <ivan> q-
17:37:01 <mhausenblas> q?
17:38:20 <cygri> ericP++
17:38:23 <mhausenblas> ack juansequeda 
17:38:23 <Zakim> juansequeda, you wanted to ask if the fastest solution is to put all examples in uppercase and therefore the resulting RDF also in uppercase?
17:38:34 <Souri> q+
17:38:39 <dmcneil> +q
17:38:41 <mhausenblas> ack Souri 
17:38:58 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
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17:39:47 <dmcneil> no
17:40:02 <mhausenblas_> Phone (VoIP) is dead
17:40:10 <mhausenblas_> I can't continue
17:40:22 <cygri> zakim, what's the number?
17:40:22 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, cygri.
17:40:26 <mhausenblas_> neither chairing nor scribing
17:40:56 <dmcneil> +1-617-761-6200
17:41:06 <mhausenblas_> I guess we're more or less done?
17:41:19 <dmcneil> eric & souri are talking now
17:41:20 <cygri> zakim, what's the code?
17:41:20 <Zakim> the conference code is 7322733 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), cygri
17:41:40 <Zakim> +??P4
17:41:45 <cygri> zakim, ??P4 is me
17:41:45 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
17:41:50 <cygri> zakim, mhausenblas is with me
17:41:50 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it
17:42:41 <dmcneil> +q
17:42:50 <ivan> ack dmcneil 
17:42:51 <mhausenblas> ack dmcneil 
17:43:14 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/LC/Overview
17:43:15 <mhausenblas> David: Can't tell if there was a gap or only make the examples consitent? 
17:43:26 <mhausenblas> ericP: making it consitent
17:43:57 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:43:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/17-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:44:03 <mhausenblas> q?
17:44:06 <Ashok_Malhotra> s/consitent/consistent/
17:44:51 <mhausenblas> Michael: Editors please let us know when the frozen documents are ready for review, everyone please send in comments by CoB 23 Jan!
17:44:57 <Zakim> -dmcneil
17:44:59 <Zakim> -Souri
17:45:00 <mhausenblas> (meeting adjourned)
17:45:00 <Zakim> -EricP
17:45:00 <Zakim> -seema
17:45:00 <Zakim> -cygri
17:45:02 <Zakim> -joerg
17:45:04 <Zakim> -Ivan
17:45:06 <Zakim> -juansequeda
17:45:10 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
17:45:12 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has ended
17:45:16 <Zakim> Attendees were dmcneil, EricP, Ivan, mhausenblas, joerg, seema, cygri, Ashok_Malhotra, Souri, juansequeda
17:45:34 <mhausenblas>  trackbot, end telecon
17:46:00 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:46:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/17-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
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