<scribe> Scribe: Andi_Snow-Weaver

<scribe> ScribeNick: Andi

testing

CS: think our test cases are the same as ARIA test cases
... will be talking about this at F2F

AS: do we have to have 2 implementations of each column in the UAIG?
... look at the ARIA test cases, compare to UAIG spec, identify any holes

<scribe> ACTION: Andi to find out where the test cases are [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/10-aapi-minutes.html#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: Andi to talk to Michael about the 2 implementation question [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/10-aapi-minutes.html#action02]

<Char> Meeting: aapi

<Char> Chair: Cynthia Shelly

<davidb> what's the code?

<davidb> got it

<davidb> JK: need clarification if mac roles are expected to be as they are mapped now, or as they should be.

<davidb> CS: ARIA guide doesn't make the distinction between what is and what isn't implemented

<davidb> CS: we'll have test cases to show interoeprability

<davidb> CS: interoperability implies correctness

<davidb> CS: ARIA version of the document indicates what 'should be'.

<davidb> JC: want to be careful that people understand why mac mappings are the way they are.

<cyns> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-api-map/raw-file/tip/Overview.html

<davidb> JK: ARIA or HTML?

<davidb> clarification is for HTML

<davidb> Less concern.

<davidb> JC: [discusses some details related to CSS]

<davidb> JK: a p element is an AxGroup, and the text inside is a static text.

<davidb> JC: [confirms]

<davidb> (JC will look over HTML mapping)

<jkiss> http://www.accessibleculture.org/misc-tests/w3c/html-api/html5-api-elements-mac-actual.html

<davidb> JC: in places where you think there is discrepancy, please file a bug or email me.

<davidb> JC: the Ax role descriptions are localized, and based on verbosity.

<jcraig> http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXModel/OSXAXmodel.html

<jcraig> "The Mac OS X Accessibility Protocol"

<jkiss> http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/UserExperience/Reference/Accessibility_RoleAttribute_Ref/Introduction.html

<jkiss> "Accessibility Roles and Attributes Reference"

<jcraig> http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/UserExperience/Reference/Accessibility_RoleAttribute_Ref/Attributes.html

<davidb> (discussion of actions)

<cyns> Action items for next week: James to Review Jason's Mac updates. Cynthia and Larry to review and update UIA column. David to review and update IA2 column.

<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel

<jcraig> jkiss, see the "columnheader" reference in the ARIA Impl Guide. There is a piece missing from the HTML table.

<cyns> cynthia to to Mike Smith and Michael cooper about whether this doc is on rec track, and whether that matters for documenting implemented vs. proposed mappings.

<jcraig> a table references its headings via pointers to the heading cells

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