ISSUE-88: Provenance container seems an unnecessary concept

Provenance-container

Provenance container seems an unnecessary concept

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CLOSED

Product:

prov-dm

Raised by:

Graham Klyne

Opened on:

2011-09-01

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See also: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Aug/0383.html

The notion of provenance container does not serve any essential purpose that I can see. And its description is in terms of PIDM constructs, which don't appear to have any existence in the conceptual model.

What I do see as needed are:

(a) a provenance expression, which is a conjunction of provenance assertions. In web terms, this would just be a provenance resource, itself a kind of Entity, about which other provenance assertions can be made - which seems to be the main point. It's fundamental property would be that it is true or false statement about some Entity or Entities.

(b) an account, which I see as a collection of provenance assertions corresponding to "a perspective on the world".

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