Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 16 February 2012

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Benedikt Kaempgen, Bernadette Hyland, Boris Villazón-Terrazas, George Thomas, John Erickson, Martín Álvarez, Michael Hausenblas, Ronald Reck, Tina Gheen, Yigal Arens, Zachary Whitley
Chair
George Thomas
Scribe
John Erickson
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions
  1. minutes accepted link
  2. : All other products beside BP can and should be reviewed as of now link
Topics

URI Construction section needs work/editing/by responsible bodies

  1. Vocabulary selection

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14:59:23 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/02/16-gld-irc

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14:59:51 <bhyland> rrsagent, make records public

Bernadette Hyland: rrsagent, make records public

15:00:26 <mhausenblas> trackbot, start telecon

Michael Hausenblas: trackbot, start telecon

15:00:28 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world

15:00:30 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be GLD

15:00:30 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started

15:00:31 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
15:00:31 <trackbot> Date: 16 February 2012
15:00:42 <Zakim> +[LC]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[LC]

15:00:53 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:00:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see George_Thomas, davidwood, +1.267.481.aaaa, [LC]

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see George_Thomas, davidwood, +1.267.481.aaaa, [LC]

15:01:00 <Zakim> +mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas

15:01:02 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me

Tina Gheen: Zakim, [LC] is me

15:01:02 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +tinagheen; got it

15:01:05 <bhyland> zakim, davidwood is me

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, davidwood is me

15:01:05 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bhyland; got it

15:01:42 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:01:56 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:01:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see George_Thomas, bhyland, +1.267.481.aaaa, tinagheen, mhausenblas, [IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see George_Thomas, bhyland, +1.267.481.aaaa, tinagheen, mhausenblas, [IPcaller]

15:02:02 <Zakim> +boris

Zakim IRC Bot: +boris

15:02:12 <bhyland> zakim aaaa is tinagheen

Bernadette Hyland: zakim aaaa is tinagheen

15:02:19 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:02:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see George_Thomas, bhyland, +1.267.481.aaaa, tinagheen, mhausenblas, [IPcaller], boris

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see George_Thomas, bhyland, +1.267.481.aaaa, tinagheen, mhausenblas, [IPcaller], boris

15:02:23 <George> chair: George
15:02:29 <George> scribe: olyerickson

(Scribe set to John Erickson)

15:02:35 <bhyland> zakim aaa is tinagheen

Bernadette Hyland: zakim aaa is tinagheen

15:02:56 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaaa is tinagheen

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, aaaa is tinagheen

15:02:56 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +tinagheen; got it

15:03:07 <bhyland> zakim aaaa is olyerickson

Bernadette Hyland: zakim aaaa is olyerickson

15:03:14 <tinagheen> I don't think aaaa is me

Tina Gheen: I don't think aaaa is me

15:03:22 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:03:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see George_Thomas, bhyland, tinagheen.a, tinagheen, mhausenblas, [IPcaller], boris

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see George_Thomas, bhyland, tinagheen.a, tinagheen, mhausenblas, [IPcaller], boris

15:03:23 <tinagheen> I am usually [LC]

Tina Gheen: I am usually [LC]

15:03:37 <Zakim> + +1.443.569.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.443.569.aabb

15:04:11 <bhyland> zakim, tinagheen.a is olyerickson

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, tinagheen.a is olyerickson

15:04:11 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it

15:04:19 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:04:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see George_Thomas, bhyland, olyerickson, tinagheen, mhausenblas, [IPcaller], boris, +1.443.569.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see George_Thomas, bhyland, olyerickson, tinagheen, mhausenblas, [IPcaller], boris, +1.443.569.aabb

15:04:26 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aabb is ZacharyWhitley

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, aabb is ZacharyWhitley

15:04:26 <Zakim> +ZacharyWhitley; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ZacharyWhitley; got it

15:05:01 <bhyland> zakim, olyerickson is lbermudez

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, olyerickson is lbermudez

15:05:01 <Zakim> +lbermudez; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +lbermudez; got it

15:05:14 <bhyland> zakim, IPcaller is olyerickson

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, IPcaller is olyerickson

15:05:14 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it

15:05:24 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

15:05:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see George_Thomas, bhyland, lbermudez, tinagheen, mhausenblas, olyerickson, boris, ZacharyWhitley

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see George_Thomas, bhyland, lbermudez, tinagheen, mhausenblas, olyerickson, boris, ZacharyWhitley

15:05:26 <George> proposal: accept minutes

PROPOSED: accept minutes

15:05:31 <mhausenblas> +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1

15:05:33 <boris> +1

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: +1

15:05:37 <olyerickson> I'm on over here at least

I'm on over here at least

15:05:42 <bhyland> Scribe: olyerickson
15:05:43 <olyerickson> I am the scribe

I am the scribe

15:05:53 <George> resolved: minutes accepted

RESOLVED: minutes accepted

15:06:06 <Zakim> +??P32

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P32

15:06:08 <George> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products

George Thomas: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products

15:06:11 <martin> zakim, ??p32

Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??p32

15:06:11 <Zakim> I don't understand '??p32', martin

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '??p32', martin

15:06:18 <martin> zakim, ??p32 is me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??p32 is me

15:06:18 <Zakim> +martin; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +martin; got it

15:06:25 <martin> zakim, mute me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, mute me

15:06:25 <Zakim> martin should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: martin should now be muted

15:06:27 <olyerickson> George: enough people on the call to resolve pending issues

George Thomas: enough people on the call to resolve pending issues

15:06:30 <olyerickson> Action 25

ACTION-25

15:06:30 <trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, bad ACTION syntax

15:06:32 <George> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/25

George Thomas: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/25

15:06:42 <olyerickson> George: resolve action 25?

George Thomas: resolve ACTION-25?

15:06:58 <olyerickson> ** procurement section

** procurement section

15:07:43 <olyerickson> George: Move to close action 25

George Thomas: Move to close ACTION-25

15:08:15 <olyerickson> George: anyone with other issues that can be closed?

George Thomas: anyone with other issues that can be closed?

15:08:26 <Zakim> + +49.721.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.721.aacc

15:08:28 <olyerickson> Bhyland: Q on action 20

Bernadette Hyland: Q on ACTION-20

15:08:44 <olyerickson> ** was assigned to Bhyland, not sure what it is

** was assigned to Bhyland, not sure what it is

15:08:55 <olyerickson> ** drawing a blank

** drawing a blank

15:09:01 <BenediktKaempgen> \me sorry, bit late

Benedikt Kaempgen: \me sorry, bit late

15:09:02 <olyerickson> ** Link?

** Link?

15:09:36 <olyerickson> ** Concerned "multilingual" discussion

** Concerned "multilingual" discussion

15:09:39 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:09:39 <martin> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/20

Martín Álvarez: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/20

15:09:58 <Yigal> zakim, IPcaller is me

Yigal Arens: zakim, IPcaller is me

15:09:58 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal; got it

15:10:16 <olyerickson> Bhyland: Doesn't know what it is for, not in position to do anything about it

Bernadette Hyland: Doesn't know what it is for, not in position to do anything about it

15:10:32 <olyerickson> george: info has been captured

George Thomas: info has been captured

15:10:49 <olyerickson> Please identify...

Please identify...

15:11:27 <olyerickson> Tina: says that ed summers will respond to issue 12 on listserv

Tina Gheen: says that ed summers will respond to ISSUE-12 on listserv

15:11:53 <bhyland> RE: Action-43, status is "in progress".  I have a question as to whether the W3C Glossary/Dictionary location makes the most sense, see http://www.w3.org/2003/glossary/

Scribe problem: the name 'RE' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Dave Reynolds Ronald Reck . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Unknown RE: ACTION-43, status is "in progress". I have a question as to whether the W3C Glossary/Dictionary location makes the most sense, see http://www.w3.org/2003/glossary/ [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:11:54 <olyerickson> george: How do we feel about FPWD status?

George Thomas: How do we feel about FPWD status?

15:12:01 <bhyland> q+

Bernadette Hyland: q+

15:12:02 <mhausenblas> q+ to state FPWD position

Michael Hausenblas: q+ to state FPWD position

15:12:06 <olyerickson> ** do we agree on readiness

** do we agree on readiness

15:12:23 <olyerickson> ** items on 'product" page "look good"

** items on 'product" page "look good"

15:12:37 <olyerickson> ** any issues?

** any issues?

15:12:42 <George> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products

George Thomas: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products

15:13:07 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

15:13:30 <olyerickson> DCAT has the most issues

DCAT has the most issues

15:13:40 <mhausenblas> ack bhyland

Michael Hausenblas: ack bhyland

15:13:52 <olyerickson> zakim, ack bhyland.

zakim, ack bhyland.

15:13:52 <Zakim> I see mhausenblas on the speaker queue

Zakim IRC Bot: I see mhausenblas on the speaker queue

15:14:16 <olyerickson> bhyland: RE Action 43, move it to "in progress"

Bernadette Hyland: RE ACTION-43, move it to "in progress"

15:14:44 <mhausenblas> Michael: I think we're good to go re FPWD batch - after the one week review, hence proposal to resolve this on 1 March telecon

Michael Hausenblas: I think we're good to go re FPWD batch - after the one week review, hence proposal to resolve this on 1 March telecon [ Scribe Assist by Michael Hausenblas ]

15:14:51 <olyerickson> ** question of continuity

** question of continuity

15:15:00 <olyerickson> ** not unique to working group

** not unique to working group

15:15:13 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:15:14 <mhausenblas> ack me

Michael Hausenblas: ack me

15:15:14 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to state FPWD position

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas, you wanted to state FPWD position

15:15:36 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#first-wd

Michael Hausenblas: http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#first-wd

15:15:53 <mhausenblas> [[Purpose: The publication of the First Public Working Draft is a signal to the community to begin reviewing the document. See section 4.1 of the W3C Patent Policy [PUB33] for information about the policy implications of the First Public Working Draft.]]

Michael Hausenblas: [[Purpose: The publication of the First Public Working Draft is a signal to the community to begin reviewing the document. See section 4.1 of the W3C Patent Policy [PUB33] for information about the policy implications of the First Public Working Draft.]]

15:16:18 <olyerickson> ** "signal to community to begin reading document"

** "signal to community to begin reading document"

15:16:33 <olyerickson> ** Of course, clearer is better, but

** Of course, clearer is better, but

15:16:56 <olyerickson> ** we should not wait/should not delay just to be perfect

** we should not wait/should not delay just to be perfect

15:17:26 <olyerickson> olyerickson: +1 to getting it out there for feedback. We'll never get it perfect ourselves ;)

John Erickson: +1 to getting it out there for feedback. We'll never get it perfect ourselves ;)

15:17:58 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.

zakim, mute me.

15:17:58 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted

15:18:34 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:18:40 <bhyland> q+

Bernadette Hyland: q+

15:18:57 <olyerickson1> +1 with Michael's view

+1 with Michael's view

15:19:44 <olyerickson1> bhyland: Proposing to give WG two (2) weeks

Bernadette Hyland: Proposing to give WG two (2) weeks

15:20:04 <olyerickson1> * 2 weeks for WG to review

* 2 weeks for WG to review

15:20:17 <olyerickson1> * 23 Feb is the date that everything should be ready

* 23 Feb is the date that everything should be ready

15:20:26 <olyerickson1> Michael: Actually, should start now

Michael Hausenblas: Actually, should start now

15:20:54 <olyerickson1> * people can comment on what they have now

* people can comment on what they have now

15:21:12 <olyerickson1> * tradeoff, more time to review vs more editing, shorter review

* tradeoff, more time to review vs more editing, shorter review

15:21:26 <olyerickson1> bhyland: w.r.t. BP, "a lot" to clean up

Bernadette Hyland: w.r.t. BP, "a lot" to clean up

15:21:53 <olyerickson1> * some parts 25% done, others 75% done

* some parts 25% done, others 75% done

15:22:00 <olyerickson1> * people will have a hard tiem reading

* people will have a hard tiem reading

15:22:14 <olyerickson1> * some parts looks like people's notes

* some parts looks like people's notes

15:22:56 <olyerickson1> Michael: suggest combining everything into common template/class

Michael Hausenblas: suggest combining everything into common template/class

15:23:50 <olyerickson1> bhyland: Suggest she, michael, et.al. get together

Bernadette Hyland: Suggest she, michael, et.al. get together

15:23:59 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:24:01 <olyerickson1> * how to use the tools

* how to use the tools

15:24:04 <bhyland> ack

Bernadette Hyland: ack

15:24:06 <olyerickson1> Michael: makes sense

Michael Hausenblas: makes sense

15:24:35 <olyerickson1> * for the other parts/groups, no need to wait

* for the other parts/groups, no need to wait

15:24:48 <olyerickson1> bhyland; agreed, we're just talking about the BP

bhyland; agreed, we're just talking about the BP

15:25:02 <George> +1 for all other FPWD's except BP, pending break-out discussion

George Thomas: +1 for all other FPWD's except BP, pending break-out discussion

15:25:49 <olyerickson1> I'm totally confused by the 'respect document' stuff

I'm totally confused by the 'respect document' stuff

15:26:29 <mhausenblas> q+

Michael Hausenblas: q+

15:26:33 <olyerickson1> bhyland: suggest using the discussion tab in the wiki to make comments

Bernadette Hyland: suggest using the discussion tab in the wiki to make comments

15:26:36 <mhausenblas> ack bhyland

Michael Hausenblas: ack bhyland

15:26:59 <mhausenblas> [[I'd like to send regrets for today, and inform you that we have been working on the document describing the ORG ontology, I planned to have it ready for today's call but I finally did not make it:

Michael Hausenblas: [[I'd like to send regrets for today, and inform you that we have been working on the document describing the ORG ontology, I planned to have it ready for today's call but I finally did not make it:

15:26:59 <mhausenblas> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/org/index.html]]

Michael Hausenblas: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/org/index.html]]

15:27:47 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:27:54 <olyerickson1> bhyland: we need a way for people to make specific feedback/comments

Bernadette Hyland: we need a way for people to make specific feedback/comments

15:28:23 <mhausenblas> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/people/index.html#uc3---public-tenders

Michael Hausenblas: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/people/index.html#uc3---public-tenders

15:28:28 <bhyland> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html#overview---bernadette

Bernadette Hyland: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html#overview---bernadette

15:28:36 <olyerickson1> Q: Is there an overview for how we're using 'respect" for us newbies?

Scribe problem: the name 'Q' does not match any of the 60 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Dean Allemang Martín Álvarez Phil Archer Yigal Arens Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Luis Bermudez William Brafford Lyle Burgoon Sarven Capadisli Cory Casanave Richard Cyganiak John Erickson Maria Fernandez Ruiz Yosuke Funahashi Tina Gheen Dan Gillman Asunción Gómez Pérez John Goodwin Jorge Gracia Jonathan Gray Christophe Gueret David Hau Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke Bernadette Hyland Benedikt Kaempgen Martin Kaltenböck Stasinos Konstantopoulos Deirdre Lee Fadi Maali Bede McCall Daniel Mekonnen Elena Montiel Ponsoda Aitor Moreno Chris Musialek Tope Omitola Michael Pendleton Irene Polikoff David Price Ronald Reck Dave Reynolds John Sheridan David Smith John Speakman Biplav Srivastava Gerald Steeman George Thomas Raphaël Troncy Bart van Leeuwen Daniel Vila Boris Villazón-Terrazas Eric VonColln Simon Wall Anne Washington Zachary Whitley Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Q: Is there an overview for how we're using 'respect" for us newbies?

15:28:57 <mhausenblas> see http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/ReSpec.js/documentation.html olyerickson

Michael Hausenblas: see http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/ReSpec.js/documentation.html olyerickson

15:29:12 <olyerickson1> * I hate that this stuff starts on one media, then goes to 'respect' or Hg or Foo or bar :(

* I hate that this stuff starts on one media, then goes to 'respect' or Hg or Foo or bar :(

15:29:25 <mhausenblas> but this is only relevant for Editors anyway ;)

Michael Hausenblas: but this is only relevant for Editors anyway ;)

15:30:22 <olyerickson1> Michael: Only people who need to know these details (e.g. ReSpec) are editorsa

Michael Hausenblas: Only people who need to know these details (e.g. ReSpec) are editorsa

15:30:43 <olyerickson1> bhyland: cochairs will send note on how to comment

Bernadette Hyland: cochairs will send note on how to comment

15:30:48 <bhyland> Agreed: co-chairs to send msg to the GLD members explaining what and how to best comment on each of the deliverables (products)

Scribe problem: the name 'Agreed' does not match any of the 60 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Dean Allemang Martín Álvarez Phil Archer Yigal Arens Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Luis Bermudez William Brafford Lyle Burgoon Sarven Capadisli Cory Casanave Richard Cyganiak John Erickson Maria Fernandez Ruiz Yosuke Funahashi Tina Gheen Dan Gillman Asunción Gómez Pérez John Goodwin Jorge Gracia Jonathan Gray Christophe Gueret David Hau Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke Bernadette Hyland Benedikt Kaempgen Martin Kaltenböck Stasinos Konstantopoulos Deirdre Lee Fadi Maali Bede McCall Daniel Mekonnen Elena Montiel Ponsoda Aitor Moreno Chris Musialek Tope Omitola Michael Pendleton Irene Polikoff David Price Ronald Reck Dave Reynolds John Sheridan David Smith John Speakman Biplav Srivastava Gerald Steeman George Thomas Raphaël Troncy Bart van Leeuwen Daniel Vila Boris Villazón-Terrazas Eric VonColln Simon Wall Anne Washington Zachary Whitley Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Agreed: co-chairs to send msg to the GLD members explaining what and how to best comment on each of the deliverables (products) [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:31:39 <olyerickson1> phila/olyerickson/et.al. will send out something w.r.t. DCAT

phila/olyerickson/et.al. will send out something w.r.t. DCAT

15:31:48 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

15:31:49 <olyerickson1> +1 to much love needed (for BP)

+1 to much love needed (for BP)

15:32:16 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: All other products beside BP can and should be reviewed as of now

PROPOSED: All other products beside BP can and should be reviewed as of now

15:32:23 <George> +1

George Thomas: +1

15:32:25 <boris> +1

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: +1

15:32:26 <olyerickson1> +1

+1

15:32:43 <olyerickson1> ** reviews done in time for next telecon

** reviews done in time for next telecon

15:33:05 <olyerickson> RESOLUTION: : All other products beside BP can and should be reviewed as of now

RESOLVED: : All other products beside BP can and should be reviewed as of now

15:33:36 <olyerickson1> george: spend more time on BP now?

George Thomas: spend more time on BP now?

15:33:50 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:33:53 <olyerickson1> bhyland: yes to BP discuss now

Bernadette Hyland: yes to BP discuss now

15:34:01 <bhyland> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html#uri-construction---boris

Bernadette Hyland: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html#uri-construction---boris

15:34:02 <olyerickson1> * URI discussion

* URI discussion

15:34:16 <olyerickson1> * we're getting a lot of interest in

* we're getting a lot of interest in

15:34:25 <olyerickson1> * "people' looking for guidance

* "people' looking for guidance

15:34:39 <olyerickson1> * people down the path

* people down the path

15:35:08 <boris> the wiki version is here http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/223_Best_Practices_URI_Construction

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: the wiki version is here http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/223_Best_Practices_URI_Construction

15:35:14 <olyerickson1> zakim, unmute me.

zakim, unmute me.

15:35:14 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted

15:35:16 <mhausenblas> ack me

Michael Hausenblas: ack me

15:35:20 <olyerickson1> q+

q+

15:35:27 <mhausenblas> +1 to use UK URI spec as an initial draft

Michael Hausenblas: +1 to use UK URI spec as an initial draft

15:36:54 <mhausenblas> ack olyerickson

Michael Hausenblas: ack olyerickson

15:37:03 <mhausenblas> q+ to talk to URI construction

Michael Hausenblas: q+ to talk to URI construction

15:37:56 <mhausenblas> ack me

Michael Hausenblas: ack me

15:37:56 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to talk to URI construction

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15:38:03 <olyerickson1> zakim, mute me.

zakim, mute me.

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15:38:15 <olyerickson1> michael: not about one against another

Michael Hausenblas: not about one against another

15:38:33 <olyerickson1> * more about how can we reuse something existing, kickstart

* more about how can we reuse something existing, kickstart

15:39:03 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:39:12 <bhyland> q+

Bernadette Hyland: q+

15:39:15 <olyerickson1> * reuse what we have, refine to what we ultimately want

* reuse what we have, refine to what we ultimately want

15:39:15 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

15:39:27 <boris> q+

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: q+

15:39:34 <olyerickson1> george: to michael's point, a bit more coverage

George Thomas: to michael's point, a bit more coverage

15:39:49 <olyerickson1> zakim, umumte me.

zakim, umumte me.

15:39:49 <Zakim> I don't understand 'umumte me', olyerickson1

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15:39:59 <olyerickson1> no

no

15:40:02 <olyerickson1> argghdf

argghdf

15:40:07 <boris> zakim, unmet oleyerickson1

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, unmet oleyerickson1

15:40:07 <Zakim> I don't understand 'unmet oleyerickson1', boris

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15:40:09 <olyerickson1> zakim, unmute olyerickson.

zakim, unmute olyerickson.

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15:41:10 <bhyland> George: The UK guidance on designing URIs provides more coverage & depth than RPI draft.  It includes more on /def and /set for example.

George Thomas: The UK guidance on designing URIs provides more coverage & depth than RPI draft. It includes more on /def and /set for example. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:41:55 <bhyland> Olyerickson: We have a more narrow, applied model from RPI and a broader model from data.gov.uk.  One alternative is to put forward one particular model and ask people to comment on this…

John Erickson: We have a more narrow, applied model from RPI and a broader model from data.gov.uk. One alternative is to put forward one particular model and ask people to comment on this… [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:42:11 <bhyland> …. another way is to suggest multiple models.

Bernadette Hyland: …. another way is to suggest multiple models.

15:42:11 <mhausenblas> q+ analogy life cycles

Michael Hausenblas: q+ analogy life cycles

15:42:24 <mhausenblas> q+ to make analogy w/ life cycles

Michael Hausenblas: q+ to make analogy w/ life cycles

15:42:25 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:43:25 <olyerickson1> bhyland: need more "meat," more coverage

Bernadette Hyland: need more "meat," more coverage

15:44:06 <olyerickson1> * need something that is simpler than complete "UK" model, but more general than (say) "RPI" model

* need something that is simpler than complete "UK" model, but more general than (say) "RPI" model

15:44:20 <olyerickson1> * "these are the issues you need to be aware of"

* "these are the issues you need to be aware of"

15:44:50 <olyerickson1> * at the end of the day, guidance that they need to do it right, etc

* at the end of the day, guidance that they need to do it right, etc

15:45:01 <olyerickson1> Note: "EPA" is an *example8

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15:45:36 <George> ack bhyland

George Thomas: ack bhyland

15:45:39 <George> ack boris

George Thomas: ack boris

15:45:58 <olyerickson1> Summary: URI Construction section needs work/editing/by responsible bodies
15:46:14 <olyerickson1> boris: agrees with michael

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: agrees with michael

15:46:56 <olyerickson1> bhyland: would like to see e.g. two people who will "take the ball and run"

Bernadette Hyland: would like to see e.g. two people who will "take the ball and run"

15:47:19 <olyerickson1> olyerickson: I will help, BUT I need a sense of what is needed

John Erickson: I will help, BUT I need a sense of what is needed

15:47:34 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:47:40 <mhausenblas> ack me

Michael Hausenblas: ack me

15:47:40 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to make analogy w/ life cycles

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15:47:43 <olyerickson1> I don't have a clear picture of what it wants to look likke

I don't have a clear picture of what it wants to look likke

15:47:51 <Zakim> +rreck

Zakim IRC Bot: +rreck

15:48:02 <olyerickson1> michael: similar situation in BP w.r.t. "Life cycle"

Michael Hausenblas: similar situation in BP w.r.t. "Life cycle"

15:48:02 <rreck> zakim, mute me

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15:48:09 <olyerickson1> zakim, mute me.

zakim, mute me.

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15:48:55 <olyerickson1> michael: goal should be to create something that fits for most,

Michael Hausenblas: goal should be to create something that fits for most,

15:49:12 <olyerickson1> * but leave out stuff that contributors can't live with

* but leave out stuff that contributors can't live with

15:49:30 <olyerickson1> * leave sections stubbed in where there are arguments

* leave sections stubbed in where there are arguments

15:49:55 <olyerickson1> zakim, unmute me.

zakim, unmute me.

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15:50:03 <olyerickson1> q+

q+

15:50:24 <martin> yes, I am

Martín Álvarez: yes, I am

15:50:30 <boris> q+

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: q+

15:50:33 <martin> zakim, unmute me

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15:50:42 <martin> zakim, mute me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, mute me

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15:53:10 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:54:43 <olyerickson1> q-

q-

15:54:46 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

15:55:20 <olyerickson1> are we changing topics?

are we changing topics?

15:55:30 <olyerickson1> TOPIC: Vocabulary selection

1. Vocabulary selection

15:55:37 <olyerickson1> zakim, mute me.

zakim, mute me.

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15:55:51 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/222_Best_Practices_for_Vocab_Selection

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/222_Best_Practices_for_Vocab_Selection

15:56:09 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:56:16 <George> ack boris

George Thomas: ack boris

15:56:31 <olyerickson1> Summary of URI Construction: olyerickson and daniel to pull something together

Summary of URI Construction: olyerickson and daniel to pull something together

15:56:54 <olyerickson1> ** boris is volunteering daniel

** boris is volunteering daniel

15:57:22 <olyerickson1> george: need to wrap up, plan

George Thomas: need to wrap up, plan

15:57:32 <Zakim> -boris

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15:57:34 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

15:57:38 <olyerickson1> * all but BP are ready to start reviewing

* all but BP are ready to start reviewing

15:57:47 <mhausenblas> q+ to ask about WG-internal review request

Michael Hausenblas: q+ to ask about WG-internal review request

15:57:54 <olyerickson1> * BP will have some break-out sessions

* BP will have some break-out sessions

15:57:55 <mhausenblas> ack me

Michael Hausenblas: ack me

15:57:55 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to ask about WG-internal review request

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15:58:16 <bhyland> yes michael

Bernadette Hyland: yes michael

15:58:18 <olyerickson1> Michael: chairs to send out notifications

Michael Hausenblas: chairs to send out notifications

15:58:21 <mhausenblas> thanks!

Michael Hausenblas: thanks!

15:58:31 <Zakim> +boris

Zakim IRC Bot: +boris

15:58:33 <George> @ olyerickson1  - can you and i get together on the URI construction topic as well? perhaps with Dani?

George Thomas: @ olyerickson1 - can you and i get together on the URI construction topic as well? perhaps with Dani?

15:58:37 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:59:02 <olyerickson1> zakim, unmute me.

zakim, unmute me.

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15:59:19 <olyerickson1> "once upon a time there was a versioning section"

"once upon a time there was a versioning section"

15:59:27 <bhyland> Once upon a time, we had the following people signed up to deal with versioning in BP doc:

Bernadette Hyland: Once upon a time, we had the following people signed up to deal with versioning in BP doc:

15:59:28 <bhyland> ; Versioning:

Bernadette Hyland: ; Versioning:

15:59:28 <bhyland> * John Erickson (RPI)

Bernadette Hyland: * John Erickson (RPI)

15:59:28 <bhyland> * Ghislain (INSTITUT TELECOM)

Bernadette Hyland: * Ghislain (INSTITUT TELECOM)

15:59:28 <bhyland> * Hadley Beeman, (versioning as related to Data "Cube")

Bernadette Hyland: * Hadley Beeman, (versioning as related to Data "Cube")

15:59:28 <bhyland> * Cory Casanove (OMG)

Bernadette Hyland: * Cory Casanove (OMG)

15:59:36 <olyerickson1> bhyland: who is responsible for versioning.

Bernadette Hyland: who is responsible for versioning.

15:59:58 <olyerickson1> * still only has notes, no real content

* still only has notes, no real content

16:00:34 <BenediktKaempgen> +q

Benedikt Kaempgen: +q

16:00:39 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

16:00:43 <olyerickson1> bhyland: big gaping hole, need to close

Bernadette Hyland: big gaping hole, need to close

16:00:49 <bhyland> q+

Bernadette Hyland: q+

16:01:01 <olyerickson1> michael; could just leave it as a section

michael; could just leave it as a section

16:01:22 <bhyland> Benedikt

Bernadette Hyland: Benedikt

16:01:25 <George> BenediktKaempgen: versioning could be part of the QB UC work

Benedikt Kaempgen: versioning could be part of the QB UC work [ Scribe Assist by George Thomas ]

16:01:26 <olyerickson1> ??? could be a use case of datacube

??? could be a use case of datacube

16:01:39 <olyerickson1> not sure I understand

not sure I understand

16:01:44 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

16:02:27 <BenediktKaempgen> +q

Benedikt Kaempgen: +q

16:02:42 <George> ack bhyland

George Thomas: ack bhyland

16:02:48 <mhausenblas> OK, sorry, I gotta run

Michael Hausenblas: OK, sorry, I gotta run

16:03:35 <olyerickson1> benedikt: how versioning fits with DQ

Benedikt Kaempgen: how versioning fits with DQ

16:03:51 <olyerickson1> ** also related to provenance

** also related to provenance

16:04:07 <Zakim> -mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas

16:04:42 <olyerickson1> george: thanks to everyone

George Thomas: thanks to everyone

16:04:54 <BenediktKaempgen> bye, thanks

Benedikt Kaempgen: bye, thanks

16:05:32 <Zakim> -ZacharyWhitley

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16:05:36 <Zakim> -bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: -bhyland

16:05:40 <Zakim> -tinagheen

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16:05:42 <Zakim> -Yigal

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16:05:44 <George> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible

George Thomas: RRSAgent, set logs world-visible

16:05:51 <Zakim> - +49.721.aacc

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16:05:55 <Zakim> -martin

Zakim IRC Bot: -martin

16:05:57 <George> RRSAgent, generate minutes

George Thomas: RRSAgent, generate minutes

16:05:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/16-gld-minutes.html George

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