Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 21 December 2011

1. ADMIN

Erik: only 3 of us, but let's close some actions

<doublec> I'm here on IRC

<scribe> Scribe: Raphael

<scribe> Scribenick: raphael

PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the last telecon: http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-mediafrag-minutes.html

<dvdeurse> +1

Erik: we are not that many

+1

<erik> +1

<doublec> +1

Erik: no objection, minutes approved

2. SPEC

ACTION-249?

<trackbot> ACTION-249 -- Raphaël Troncy to tidy up the spec before December 24th -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/249

Raphael: I will have tidy up the document before next week telecon

Erik: 2 new email threads
... 1/ rounding spatial fragments

<dvdeurse> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0015.html

Raphael: is there some concrete text proposal to replace?

<dvdeurse> we could add it here: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#valid-uri-spatial

Raphael: section 6.1.2 seems indeed the right place to clarify how rounding should occur
... we need a concrete text suggestion to put here

Erik: should we ask Silvia / Philip ?

<silvia> what rounding?

<silvia> ah I guess these values have to be integers: a/w*100,b/h*100,c/w*100,d/h*100

Silvia, we are talking about the thread of Philip, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0015.html

<silvia> foolip suggested rounding outwards, and I agree

<silvia> raphael, I was talking about that, too, and in the place that dvdeurse suggested, which I agree with

<silvia> so it should be: floor(a/w*100), floor(b/h*100), ceil(c/w*100), ceil(d/h*100)

Erik: I will email Philip to ask him for a concrete text proposal to go into section 6.1.2

Raphael: yes Silvia, but we need some text to explain the issue to the reader, we cannot put just this sentence

<silvia> no, we can just replace what's there with these values

Erik: other issue, BNF-syntax on wall-clock, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0000.html

<silvia> xywh=percent:a,b,c,d with a+c <= 100, b+d <= 100: the UA displays a spatial fragment with coordinates (in pixel xywh format) a/w*100,b/h*100,c/w*100,d/h*100 (the normal percent case).

<silvia> ^ it's in this text line

ok, thanks Silvia !

<erik> agree with Silvia :)

<scribe> ACTION: Raphael to change in section 6.1.2 the last valid spatial fragment with the text suggested by Silvia/Philip [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/12/21-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-252 - Change in section 6.1.2 the last valid spatial fragment with the text suggested by Silvia/Philip [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2011-12-28].

<scribe> ACTION: Raphael to update the section 4.2.1.3 (Wall Clock time code) with the concrete proposal from Christoph at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0000.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/12/21-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-253 - Update the section 4.2.1.3 (Wall Clock time code) with the concrete proposal from Christoph at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0000.html [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2011-12-28].

3. TEST CASES AND IMPLEMENTATIONS

ACTION-250?

<trackbot> ACTION-250 -- Davy Van Deursen to tidy up the implementation report before December 24th -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/250

<scribe> Done ... section headings have been changed

close ACTION-250

<trackbot> ACTION-250 Tidy up the implementation report before December 24th closed

Raphael: should we put in this document that we have also "producer" of media fragments?

Erik: should we point to mediafragments.org or the wiki page?

Raphael: add a sentence or a ref somewhere?

Davy: ok I will do that

ACTION-245?

<trackbot> ACTION-245 -- Raphaël Troncy to clarify whether Dailymotion will provide an implementation or not -- due 2011-12-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/245

<scribe> ACTION: davy to complete the implementation report mentioning the other type of implementations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/12/21-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-254 - Complete the implementation report mentioning the other type of implementations [on Davy Van Deursen - due 2011-12-28].

close ACTION-245

<trackbot> ACTION-245 Clarify whether Dailymotion will provide an implementation or not closed

Raphael: we will not get an implementation report on time regarding Dailymotion implementation
... but we will follow up this important implementation for the showcase portal

<silvia> why does Dailymotion's implementation count?

<silvia> they are not even using the same syntax

Raphael: it does not Silvia

<silvia> ok, cool

Raphael: I think you haven't followed the thread ...

<silvia> because otherwise YouTube might have counted, too

Raphael: they will change the syntax to be compliant

<silvia> just saying that right now they are not

Raphael: if YouTube changes its syntax, and passes the test cases, they will count :-)
... this is what we are saying
... announcement, Noterik in NL is also implementing Media Fragments URI ... a first product available in Feb 2012

ACTION-251?

<trackbot> ACTION-251 -- Erik Mannens to contact the Europeana developers to check the feasibility of having a new implementation report -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/251

close ACTION-251

<trackbot> ACTION-251 Contact the Europeana developers to check the feasibility of having a new implementation report closed

See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0026.html

4. UPDATE ACTION LIST

ACTION-240?

<trackbot> ACTION-240 -- Raphaël Troncy to create a first draft of this page on the wiki before designing the web site -- due 2011-10-12 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/240

close ACTION-240

<trackbot> ACTION-240 Create a first draft of this page on the wiki before designing the web site closed

See http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Showcase

Raphael: we should really edit this page and complete it as soon as we come across a new implementation

<erik> +1

@Silvia, if you hear about something, could you please edit this page too?

5. AOB

none

meeting adjourned