Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 14 December 2011

1. ADMIN

<scribe> Scribe: Raphael

<scribe> Scribenick: raphael

<tomayac> +1

<erik> +1

<Yves> +1

PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the last telecon: http://www.w3.org/2011/12/07-mediafrag-minutes.html

+1

minutes accepted

<silvia> +1

2. SPEC

Erik: splitting the document to remove the features at risk

ACTIOn-247?

<trackbot> ACTION-247 -- Raphaël Troncy to mail the group about the decision of what will be in the spec and what will not -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/247

<tomayac> +1 for splitting, as explained in the email

close ACTION-247

<trackbot> ACTION-247 Mail the group about the decision of what will be in the spec and what will not closed

See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0009.html

Erik: +1 from Silvia on the mailing list

<silvia> I'm supportive, too :-) indeed

Erik: Philip asked what are the interoperable implementations of #xywh
... if we look at the implementation reports, this is clear

<Yves> I wonder about recipes vs adjuncts as a name, but that's pretty minor (as we stuff more things that the network related recipes)

Raphael: there is also a clear usage plan from the CSS/SVG community
... I agree with that Yves, and more because there will be more dimensions in this document, thus my proposal to named it "advanced"
... we can discuss about the short name

http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-impl/

<Yves> in a way, SMPTE and clock _could_ be kept in the first one (as flavours of 'time' dimension), but ok to move them to advanced

Erik: 2 implementations from the report, js implementation from Thomas and Ninsuna from IBBT

<tomayac> i would push them to advanced, and only keep npt, too

Raphael: there is also an implementation, although not tested, from the Europeana community

<Yves> xywh should be kept, IMHO

<erik> +1 to Yves (from both Davy & Erik)

Philip: (from the mailing list) I have questioned the validity of a polyphil (the mediafragment.js) implementation as a valid one we should consider

<tomayac> +1 for keeping xywh from my side, too

Erik: everybody except Philip clearly votes for considering that #xywh has sufficient support and implementations

ACTION-249?

<trackbot> ACTION-249 -- Raphaël Troncy to tidy up the spec before December 24th -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/249

scribe: still open

Raphael: I have booked 2 full days next week to do it

ACTIOn-248?

<trackbot> ACTION-248 -- Erik Mannens to write a mail with our timeline to check approval with Philippe -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/248

close ACTION-248

<trackbot> ACTION-248 Write a mail with our timeline to check approval with Philippe closed

Erik: Philip indicates in an email that he supports the transition to PR in early January given the recent progress of the working group
... Philip also asked to do the PR request on the 2nd / 3rd January
... and have the transition call on January 8-9

Yves: yep

<tomayac> +1 for the suggested timeline

<erik> ok for Erik too

ok for me

<silvia> ok for me

3. TEST CASES AND IMPLEMENTATIONS

ACTIOn-250?

<trackbot> ACTION-250 -- Davy Van Deursen to tidy up the implementation report before December 24th -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/250

Erik: let's keep the action open, there is still a bit tidy up to do

Raphael: propose to rename the sections into something like "Implementation Report for Media Fragments Basics" and "Implementation Report for Media Fragments Advanced"
... to match the 2 new documents

ACTION-251?

<trackbot> ACTION-251 -- Erik Mannens to contact the Europeana developers to check the feasibility of having a new implementation report -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/251

Erik: I contacted them, and get a reply, confirming that they support media fragments (spatial and soon temporal)
... no implementation report yet
... I will continue to chase them

ACTION-245?

<trackbot> ACTION-245 -- Raphaël Troncy to clarify whether Dailymotion will provide an implementation or not -- due 2011-12-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/245

I'm finalizing an email

scribe: explaining what DM currently supports and does not support
... in details

Raphael: we keep the action open, and let the possibility that DM might be able to be on time to produce an implementation report partial before the end of the year

4. UPDATE ACTION LIST

ACTION-240

ACTION-240?

<trackbot> ACTION-240 -- Raphaël Troncy to create a first draft of this page on the wiki before designing the web site -- due 2011-10-12 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/240

Raphael: I own mediafragments.org
... plan to implement a simple portal to showcase the existing applications / implementations
... will be do next year
... for now, distribute a call for being aware of the existing implementations
... I will start to edit this wiki page

5. AOB

Erik: silence

<tomayac> regrets for next week

<tomayac> on vacation already

[meeting adjourned]

<tomayac> regrets for the phoneconf on the 28th then

<silvia> bye!