IRC log of mediafrag on 2011-12-14
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- Zakim, this will be IA_MFWG
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- ok, trackbot; I see IA_MFWG()5:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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- Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 14 December 2011
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- IA_MFWG()5:00AM has now started
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- +raphael
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0008.html
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- Chair: Erik, Raphael
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
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- +Yves
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- +Erik
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- Present: Erik, Raphael, Yves, Silvia, Thomas
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- Present+: Davy
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- Topic: 1. ADMIN
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- +tomayac
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- Scribe: Raphael
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- Scribenick: raphael
- 10:08:18 [tomayac]
- +1
- 10:08:26 [erik]
- +1
- 10:08:28 [Yves]
- +1
- 10:08:31 [raphael]
- PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the last telecon: http://www.w3.org/2011/12/07-mediafrag-minutes.html
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- +1
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- minutes accepted
- 10:08:44 [silvia]
- +1
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- Topic: 2. SPEC
- 10:09:22 [raphael]
- Erik: splitting the document to remove the features at risk
- 10:09:32 [raphael]
- ACTIOn-247?
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- ACTION-247 -- Raphaël Troncy to mail the group about the decision of what will be in the spec and what will not -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/247
- 10:09:38 [tomayac]
- +1 for splitting, as explained in the email
- 10:09:48 [raphael]
- close ACTION-247
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- ACTION-247 Mail the group about the decision of what will be in the spec and what will not closed
- 10:09:50 [raphael]
- See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Dec/0009.html
- 10:11:02 [raphael]
- Erik: +1 from Silvia on the mailing list
- 10:11:11 [silvia]
- I'm supportive, too :-) indeed
- 10:11:19 [raphael]
- ... Philip asked what are the interoperable implementations of #xywh
- 10:11:32 [raphael]
- Erik: if we look at the implementation reports, this is clear
- 10:11:45 [Yves]
- I wonder about recipes vs adjuncts as a name, but that's pretty minor (as we stuff more things that the network related recipes)
- 10:11:46 [raphael]
- Raphael: there is also a clear usage plan from the CSS/SVG community
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- Raphael: I agree with that Yves, and more because there will be more dimensions in this document, thus my proposal to named it "advanced"
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- ... we can discuss about the short name
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-impl/
- 10:12:45 [Yves]
- in a way, SMPTE and clock _could_ be kept in the first one (as flavours of 'time' dimension), but ok to move them to advanced
- 10:13:29 [raphael]
- Erik: 2 implementations from the report, js implementation from Thomas and Ninsuna from IBBT
- 10:13:34 [tomayac]
- i would push them to advanced, and only keep npt, too
- 10:14:18 [raphael]
- Raphael: there is also an implementation, although not tested, from the Europeana community
- 10:14:23 [Yves]
- xywh should be kept, IMHO
- 10:14:43 [erik]
- +1 to Yves (from both Davy & Erik)
- 10:15:06 [raphael]
- Philip: (from the mailing list) I have questioned the validity of a polyphil (the mediafragment.js) implementation as a valid one we should consider
- 10:15:17 [tomayac]
- +1 for keeping xywh from my side, too
- 10:15:31 [raphael]
- Erik: everybody except Philip clearly votes for considering that #xywh has sufficient support and implementations
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- ACTION-249?
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- ACTION-249 -- Raphaël Troncy to tidy up the spec before December 24th -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/249
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- ... still open
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- Raphael: I have booked 2 full days next week to do it
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- ACTIOn-248?
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- ACTION-248 -- Erik Mannens to write a mail with our timeline to check approval with Philippe -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/248
- 10:16:40 [raphael]
- close ACTION-248
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- ACTION-248 Write a mail with our timeline to check approval with Philippe closed
- 10:17:08 [raphael]
- Erik: Philip indicates in an email that he supports the transition to PR in early January given the recent progress of the working group
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- ... Philip also asked to do the PR request on the 2nd / 3rd January
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- ... and have the transition call on January 8-9
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- Yves: yep
- 10:17:40 [tomayac]
- +1 for the suggested timeline
- 10:17:46 [erik]
- ok for Erik too
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- ok for me
- 10:18:06 [silvia]
- ok for me
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- Topic: 3. TEST CASES AND IMPLEMENTATIONS
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- ACTIOn-250?
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- ACTION-250 -- Davy Van Deursen to tidy up the implementation report before December 24th -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/250
- 10:19:04 [raphael]
- Erik: let's keep the action open, there is still a bit tidy up to do
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- Raphael: propose to rename the sections into something like "Implementation Report for Media Fragments Basics" and "Implementation Report for Media Fragments Advanced"
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- ... to match the 2 new documents
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- ACTION-251?
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- ACTION-251 -- Erik Mannens to contact the Europeana developers to check the feasibility of having a new implementation report -- due 2011-12-14 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/251
- 10:21:33 [raphael]
- Erik: I contacted them, and get a reply, confirming that they support media fragments (spatial and soon temporal)
- 10:21:50 [raphael]
- ... no implementation report yet
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- ... I will continue to chase them
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- ACTION-245?
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- ACTION-245 -- Raphaël Troncy to clarify whether Dailymotion will provide an implementation or not -- due 2011-12-07 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/245
- 10:23:59 [raphael]
- I'm finalizing an email
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- ... explaining what DM currently supports and does not support
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- ... in details
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- Raphael: we keep the action open, and let the possibility that DM might be able to be on time to produce an implementation report partial before the end of the year
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- Topic: 4. UPDATE ACTION LIST
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- ACTION-240
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- ACTION-240?
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- ACTION-240 -- Raphaël Troncy to create a first draft of this page on the wiki before designing the web site -- due 2011-10-12 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/240
- 10:26:42 [raphael]
- Raphael: I own mediafragments.org
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- ... plan to implement a simple portal to showcase the existing applications / implementations
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- ... will be do next year
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- ... for now, distribute a call for being aware of the existing implementations
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- ... I will start to edit this wiki page
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- Topic: 5. AOB
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
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- Erik: silence
- 10:28:52 [tomayac]
- regrets for next week
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- on vacation already
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- [meeting adjourned]
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- regrets for the phoneconf on the 28th then
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
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- -tomayac
- 10:33:05 [silvia]
- bye!
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- -raphael
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- -Erik
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
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- disconnecting the lone participant, Yves, in IA_MFWG()5:00AM
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- Attendees were raphael, Yves, Erik, tomayac
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