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New bugs review

<lwatson> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14906 Bug 14906

EZ: New bug: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14906
... I can see the use case for being able to hover dragged content over an element to activate it

HH: Currently ARIA doesn't have a way to indicate hover actions, just drop targets

EZ: Neither ARIA or HTML5 define this behavior in the spec
... It's probably something that the task force should track
... I will add the a11ytf keyword
... This feature would have to be added to the spec, before we can start making it accessible

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EZ: I scanned to the list and identified 3 drag and drop related items
... With all of these bugs, the editors pushed back that the spec is not meant to define drag and drop, but a mechanism that makes it possible
... But a lot of language regarding drag and drop is mouse centric, and alternative, accessible methods need to be described
... I've added some posts about this to the public-html-a11y list to discuss this, but so far there are no responses.

HH: Evertt's message can be found here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Nov/0155.html

EZ: ALl three of these bugs basically ask the question: "can drag and drop be performed without a mouse?"
... So two of these bugs can be closed

LW: How do we close bugs?

MC: We can move bugs to 'verified', then someone from the working group can close it

EZ: Do we close the oldest or the newest?

MC: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8800 seems to be the core one, the others depend on it
... So 8800 is the one that should stay open and be commented on

EZ: I'll give it one more week to let people on the mailing list respond, if they don't I'll comment to the bug directly

LW: We'll check up on this next week
... Marc, did you find any new bugs?

MR: No

Bug keyword check

LW: We can probably close this

TF sub team support

LW: So far I've only gotten a response from the media sub group
... We're at a bit of a standstill

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Default Present: [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a], Marco_Ranon, Michael_Cooper
Present: Everett_Zufelt Hans_Hillen Marco_Ranon Léonie_Watson Michael_Cooper
Got date from IRC log name: 29 Nov 2011
Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2011/11/29-a11y-bugs-minutes.html
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