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<lwatson> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14906 Bug 14906
EZ: New bug: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14906
... I can see the use case for being able to hover dragged content over an element to activate it
HH: Currently ARIA doesn't have a way to indicate hover actions, just drop targets
EZ: Neither ARIA or HTML5 define
this behavior in the spec
... It's probably something that the task force should track
... I will add the a11ytf keyword
... This feature would have to be added to the spec, before we can start making it accessible
EZ: I scanned to the list and
identified 3 drag and drop related items
... With all of these bugs, the editors pushed back that the spec is not meant to define drag and drop, but a mechanism that makes it possible
... But a lot of language regarding drag and drop is mouse centric, and alternative, accessible methods need to be described
... I've added some posts about this to the public-html-a11y list to discuss this, but so far there are no responses.
HH: Evertt's message can be found here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Nov/0155.html
EZ: ALl three of these bugs
basically ask the question: "can drag and drop be performed
without a mouse?"
... So two of these bugs can be closed
LW: How do we close bugs?
MC: We can move bugs to 'verified', then someone from the working group can close it
EZ: Do we close the oldest or the newest?
seems to be the core one, the others depend on it
... So 8800 is the one that should stay open and be commented on
EZ: I'll give it one more week to let people on the mailing list respond, if they don't I'll comment to the bug directly
LW: We'll check up on this next
... Marc, did you find any new bugs?
LW: We can probably close this
LW: So far I've only gotten a
response from the media sub group
... We're at a bit of a standstill
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