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Forms Working Group Teleconference

02 Nov 2011

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
Steven, +47.82.483.aaaa, Leigh_Klotz, pfennell, alain, unl, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, John_Boyer
Regrets
Erik
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
Steven

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 02 November 2011

nick?

Call is one hour earlier this week

<klotz> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Oct/0000.html

* XForms Test Suite 1.1 - Test case 2.4.a

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Oct/0000.html

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to reply to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Oct/0000.html saying he is right [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/11/02-forms-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1840 - Reply to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Oct/0000.html saying he is right [on Steven Pemberton - due 2011-11-09].

<scribe> ACTION: Nick to update test 2.4.a according to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Oct/0000.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/11/02-forms-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1841 - Update test 2.4.a according to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Oct/0000.html [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2011-11-09].

<unl> http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-0/#QualLocals

<nick> http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-0/#UnqualLocals

<nick> All such attributes' values may each be set to unqualified or qualified, to indicate whether or not locally declared elements and attributes must be unqualified.

<nick> … To specify that all locally declared elements in a schema must be qualified, we set the value of http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-0/#attribute-elementFormDefault to qualified:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2003OctDec/0132.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2003OctDec/att-0132/xmledit.html

<alain> Sorry, I can't access those link because of authentification limitation...

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Oct/0026.html

The xml-edit processing instruction is allowed only in the prolog of an XML document. The syntax of XML constrains where processing instructions are allowed in the prolog; the xml-edit processing instruction is allowed anywhere in the prolog that meets these constraints.

NOTE: If the xml-edit processing instruction occurs in the external DTD subset or in a parameter entity, it is possible that it may not be processed by a non-validating XML processor (see [XML10]).

The following pseudo attributes are defined

href CDATA #REQUIRED

type CDATA #REQUIRED

title CDATA #IMPLIED

media CDATA #IMPLIED

charset CDATA #IMPLIED

alternate (yes|no) "no"

targetid CDATA #REQUIRED

The semantics of the pseudo-attributes are exactly as with xml-stylesheet, with the exception of the targetid pseudo-attribute, which defines the ID of the instance element in the editor document, whose content will be replaced by the current document having the xml-edit PI. If an instance element with that ID is not found, the editor document is used without editing it.

(ISSUE: what to do with this? I propose that using the fragment identifier is prohibited (-MH)): NOTE: Since the value of the href attribute is a URI reference, it may be a relative URI and it may contain a fragment identifier. In particular the URI reference may contain only a fragment identifier. Such a URI reference is a reference to a part of the document containing the xml-edit processing instruction (see [RFC2396]). The consequence is that

the xml-edit processing instruction allows editors to be embedded in the same document as the xml-edit processing instruction.

Multiple xml-edit processing instructions are also allowed with exactly the same semantics as with xml-stylesheet processing instruction. For example, the following prolog would define one main stylesheet, one alternative stylesheet and two alternative editor documents.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>

<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" title="XHTML" href="./demos_xhtml.xsl" ?>

<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" title="XSL FO" href="./demos.xsl" alternate="yes"?>

<?xml-edit type="application/xhtml+xml" title="Header editor" href="./header_edit.xhtml"

targetid="headerinstance" alternate="yes"?>

<?xml-edit type="application/xhtml+xml" title="Content editor" href="./content_edit.xhtml"

targetid="contentinstance" alternate="yes"?>

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to repost Mikko's xml-edit PI proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/11/02-forms-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1842 - Repost Mikko's xml-edit PI proposal [on Steven Pemberton - due 2011-11-09].

<klotz> http://xformstest.org/klotz/2011/05/MVC/buy-test4.xml

<klotz> grep -nH -e xsltforms_profiler.xhtml *

<klotz> xsltforms.js:1651: s += '<?xml-form type="application/xhtml+xml" href="' + Core.ROOT + 'xsltforms_profiler.xhtml" instance="profile"?>';

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to convert Mikko's PI document to Wiki form [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/11/02-forms-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1843 - Convert Mikko's PI document to Wiki form [on Steven Pemberton - due 2011-11-09].

AHppy birthday to Nick tomorrow

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Nick to update test 2.4.a according to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Oct/0000.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/11/02-forms-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Steven to convert Mikko's PI document to Wiki form [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/11/02-forms-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Steven to reply to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2011Oct/0000.html saying he is right [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/11/02-forms-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Steven to repost Mikko's xml-edit PI proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/11/02-forms-minutes.html#action03]
 
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